Ben Wyatt
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 24, 2020 15:23:22 GMT -5
As as neutral party (Browns/Jags fan) I think Chiefs win if their defense is good, but I'm rooting for the 49ers specifically because this is the year where it's become glaringly apparent that the Pats absolutely screwed up by not making Jimmy G the heir apparent to Brady and I would laugh so hard if he won the whole thing. It's not that simple. They weren't going to pay Jimmy big money to stay and be a backup, and he (rightfully) no longer wanted to be a backup anyway. Not to mention that there was no way they were going to tie up 40 million on the QB position.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 24, 2020 15:46:48 GMT -5
As as neutral party (Browns/Jags fan) I think Chiefs win if their defense is good, but I'm rooting for the 49ers specifically because this is the year where it's become glaringly apparent that the Pats absolutely screwed up by not making Jimmy G the heir apparent to Brady and I would laugh so hard if he won the whole thing. It's not that simple. They weren't going to pay Jimmy big money to stay and be a backup, and he (rightfully) no longer wanted to be a backup anyway. Not to mention that there was no way they were going to tie up 40 million on the QB position. That's true, but also "Hey, want a few years where you get a sweet deal while you gradually play more of the game and we move Brady into some coaching or training spot?" sounds like a decent offer. Also, in hindsight they traded him for a draft pick that got them Duke Dawson, and I can't find any record that he did a single thing for the Pats
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Jan 24, 2020 16:05:28 GMT -5
Interesting gamesmanship today...Richard Sherman says if they win he's not going to the White House.....Frank Clark then wears a shirt of Donald Trump and Kanye West together while talking to media.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jan 24, 2020 16:27:58 GMT -5
Interesting gamesmanship today...Richard Sherman says if they win he's not going to the White House.....Frank Clark then wears a shirt of Donald Trump and Kanye West together while talking to media. I bet Nick Bosa will be the first in line if the 49ers win. Shit, he might get invited if they lose.
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Post by burdette25159 on Jan 24, 2020 16:51:18 GMT -5
Super Bowl Studio 54 is 9 days away
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 24, 2020 17:05:13 GMT -5
Super Bowl Studio 54 is 9 days away It legit feels like no time at all since the last one
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 25, 2020 10:33:26 GMT -5
It's not that simple. They weren't going to pay Jimmy big money to stay and be a backup, and he (rightfully) no longer wanted to be a backup anyway. Not to mention that there was no way they were going to tie up 40 million on the QB position. That's true, but also "Hey, want a few years where you get a sweet deal while you gradually play more of the game and we move Brady into some coaching or training spot?" sounds like a decent offer. Also, in hindsight they traded him for a draft pick that got them Duke Dawson, and I can't find any record that he did a single thing for the Pats I don't have any problems with the Pats trading Garoppolo. He wasn't going to stay and be a backup unless they franchised him and you don't pay a backup 20 million. And trading Brady at that time would have been madness. He was still performing at an MVP level at the time. The Patriots went to two Super Bowls after the trade winning one so keeping Brady was the right move. Now what we got for Garoppolo THAT'S what I have a problem with. It's clear that Belichick liked Garoppolo and wanted to send him to a place where he could succeed so he essentially gift wrapped him to San Francisco instead of finding the best offer. There were reports that the Browns were willing to send the 1st round pick they got from the Texans (which would have been 4th overall) for Jimmy. If the Patriots had that pick they could have drafted a Baker Mayfield or a Sam Darnold to be the heir apparent to Brady. Or they could have drafted another talented young player to supplement their aging core. But we'll never know.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 26, 2020 12:34:43 GMT -5
That's true, but also "Hey, want a few years where you get a sweet deal while you gradually play more of the game and we move Brady into some coaching or training spot?" sounds like a decent offer. Also, in hindsight they traded him for a draft pick that got them Duke Dawson, and I can't find any record that he did a single thing for the Pats I don't have any problems with the Pats trading Garoppolo. He wasn't going to stay and be a backup unless they franchised him and you don't pay a backup 20 million. And trading Brady at that time would have been madness. He was still performing at an MVP level at the time. The Patriots went to two Super Bowls after the trade winning one so keeping Brady was the right move. Now what we got for Garoppolo THAT'S what I have a problem with. It's clear that Belichick liked Garoppolo and wanted to send him to a place where he could succeed so he essentially gift wrapped him to San Francisco instead of finding the best offer. There were reports that the Browns were willing to send the 1st round pick they got from the Texans (which would have been 4th overall) for Jimmy. If the Patriots had that pick they could have drafted a Baker Mayfield or a Sam Darnold to be the heir apparent to Brady. Or they could have drafted another talented young player to supplement their aging core. But we'll never know. People still argue the Patriots made the wrong choice by keeping Brady. Brady has won an MVP, been to 2 Super Bowls and won one of them since they traded away Jimmy G. I know the Patriots are in some rarified air where it’s almost expected they be in the Super Bowl seasonally but when keeping Brady brings you to the Super Bowl twice it’s hard to say you made the wrong decision
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Post by burdette25159 on Jan 26, 2020 16:34:27 GMT -5
I'm guessing there's going to be a moment of silence at the Super Bowl for Kobe
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Jan 27, 2020 12:26:00 GMT -5
Meanwhile we have reporters saying the 49ers need to risk flags and try to cheap shot Mahomes because it's the Superbowl.....considering the talking point this has become it'll be fun when flags come out for breathing on him wrong.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jan 27, 2020 13:29:44 GMT -5
Meanwhile we have reporters saying the 49ers need to risk flags and try to cheap shot Mahomes because it's the Superbowl.....considering the talking point this has become it'll be fun when flags come out for breathing on him wrong. And those guys have clearly never seen the 49ers defense play. I still think Mahomes is going to win, but the last team that needs to resort to cheap shots is this Niners’ D. Give me a fxxxing break.
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BRV
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Post by BRV on Jan 27, 2020 21:47:59 GMT -5
That's true, but also "Hey, want a few years where you get a sweet deal while you gradually play more of the game and we move Brady into some coaching or training spot?" sounds like a decent offer. Also, in hindsight they traded him for a draft pick that got them Duke Dawson, and I can't find any record that he did a single thing for the Pats I don't have any problems with the Pats trading Garoppolo. He wasn't going to stay and be a backup unless they franchised him and you don't pay a backup 20 million. And trading Brady at that time would have been madness. He was still performing at an MVP level at the time. The Patriots went to two Super Bowls after the trade winning one so keeping Brady was the right move. Now what we got for Garoppolo THAT'S what I have a problem with. It's clear that Belichick liked Garoppolo and wanted to send him to a place where he could succeed so he essentially gift wrapped him to San Francisco instead of finding the best offer. There were reports that the Browns were willing to send the 1st round pick they got from the Texans (which would have been 4th overall) for Jimmy. If the Patriots had that pick they could have drafted a Baker Mayfield or a Sam Darnold to be the heir apparent to Brady. Or they could have drafted another talented young player to supplement their aging core. But we'll never know. Exactly. The decision to trade Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't the mistake - there were rumors about him being traded for about a full year before he was dealt - what they got in exchange for Garoppolo was the mistake. Going into the 2017 NFL Draft, the rumors were that Houston and Cleveland were both bidding for Garoppolo's services, with both franchises debating the merit of sending one (or more) first-round picks in return for Jimmy G. To only end up with a solitary second-round pick was inexcusable, even if the Niners did gift-wrap Trent Brown back to the Patriots in spring 2018 as a sort of wink-wink way to make up for how they fleeced New England. Garoppolo was never going to accept a contract extension in New England unless it was as the starter. There was no amount of money he would accept to ride the bench for another three years, and the Patriots weren't going to give starting quarterback money to a player they had no intention of starting. And, all things considered, the Patriots didn't exactly screw up deciding to keep Tom Brady over Garoppolo. They advanced to two Super Bowls and won one in the three years since the trade. So far, Garoppolo's got one Super Bowl appearance as a starter, and if we learned anything from Dan Marino's career, it's that one Super Bowl early is not indicative of multiple Super Bowls in a career. The book won't be written on this trade until we find out how the Patriots plan for life after Brady and how Garoppolo's career ends up.
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Jan 28, 2020 11:17:20 GMT -5
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Post by Mecca on Jan 30, 2020 11:33:44 GMT -5
Interesting interview note that came out the other day. Dean Pees the now retired Titans defensive coordinator was asked why they didn't blitz Mahomes to bring extra pressure. He responded by saying "I watched 2 years of film, every game he's played and you can not rattle him, nothing rattles him so blitzing him is pointless because he's unaffected.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 31, 2020 9:54:48 GMT -5
The Chiefs will destroy the 49ers!
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Post by BRV on Jan 31, 2020 12:29:37 GMT -5
My picks went 2-0 in the Conference Championships, 5-5 overall in the playoffs.
- San Francisco 34, Kansas City 31: The Chiefs' offense has been prolific during the playoffs, but they haven't seen anything like the 49ers defense, which is stout on all three levels and has the kind of players who can make life a nightmare for Andy Reid. Conversely, the 49ers defense hasn't seen anything like the Chiefs' offense, as the Vikings and Packers are a far cry from Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelce. I don't see the 49ers being able to run as effortlessly as they did against Green Bay, even though Kansas City's run defense is prone to being gashed, which means the game will likely come down to the quarterbacks. Jimmy Garoppolo has a tendency to make mistakes, but if he can simply manage the game and prevent any massive errors, I think the 49ers could take this one. I'm expecting a tight game the whole way through, one that comes down to the final few minutes of the fourth quarter, and possibly even overtime.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 31, 2020 14:03:45 GMT -5
I hope the game ends 9-6 and everybody struggles with trying to figure out how to still give the Quarterbacks the MVP and all the praise.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 31, 2020 15:16:14 GMT -5
Geoff Schwartz with a really interesting thought on this game and why he went Chiefs..
“All the pressure is on San Francisco. They have to have their pass rush get to Mahomes not just a few times, but a lot due to him scoring at any time. They have to play great coverage the entire game, they have to maintain their gaps on rushes against a very mobile QB, they have to run the ball well, Jimmy G can’t make mistakes, they have to get TD’s in the red zone bc you might as well just give the ball back to the Chiefs if you’re settling for a FG.”
He mentioned that if the 49ers do not run the ball really well and hit Mahomes a lot, they’ll lose by double-digits. They have to do both at a high level.
Also mentioned they have to play that well collectively all game bc no lead is safe.
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Post by BRV on Feb 2, 2020 0:05:51 GMT -5
It's crazy to think that the Super Bowl used to be one of the worst games of the year, as the 1980s and 1990s were dominated by games in which the NFC Champion would routinely lay waste to the AFC Champion. From Super Bowl I to XXVII (the midway point to where we are in the current Super Bowl era), there were seven one-score games. From Super Bowl XXVII to LIII, there have been 13 one-score games. The amount of close games has doubled over the last 27 years from the first 27.
This year's game also marks my 25th Super Bowl as a fan, or at least, the 25th Super Bowl I can remember watching. With that being said, I thought it would be fun to take a walk down memory lane and rank the past 25 Super Bowls from worst to best.
25. Super Bowl XLI (Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17) - Aside from Devin Hester's opening kick return and the game being played in the rain, this is probably the least memorable Super Bowl since I started watching the game. It was an unremarkable, unexciting, uninteresting slog pitting Peyton Manning against Rex Grossman in one of the Super Bowl's more lopsided jobber squashes.
24. Super Bowl XXXIII (Denver 34, Atlanta 19) - Oh, what could've been. If only Gary Anderson would've made the kick late in the NFC Championship Game, this could've been an all-time great, pitting a retiring John Elway against the 15-1 Vikings. Instead, the Falcons ruined everyone's fun and "rewarded" us by sleepwalking through virtually the entire game.
23. Super Bowl XXIX (San Francisco 49, San Diego 26) - Sure, this is a romp that was over from kickoff, but it was at least exciting to see the dominant 49ers returning to glory and Steve Young "getting the monkey off his back" by shellacking the undermatched Chargers.
22. Super Bowl XXXV (Baltimore 34, New York Giants 7) - Much like Super Bowl XXIX, this gets a higher ranking than it really should because it's a showcase of one of the greatest units in league history, namely Ray Lewis and the 2000 Ravens defense suffocating Kerry Collins and the Giants offense.
21. Super Bowl XLVIII (Seattle 43, Denver 8) - Again, a blowout is made more interesting because of the dominance we witnessed. Seattle's legendary Legion of Boom laid waste to Peyton Manning and the historically-great Broncos offense.
20. Super Bowl XL (Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10) - Chalk up another for the forgettable category. A perfectly fine game that is really only remembered for Jerome Bettis' retirement and one of the shadier officiating performances in recent memory.
19. Super Bowl 50 (Denver 24, Carolina 10) - Much like Super Bowl XL, this is remembered largely for a looming retirement - Peyton Manning - but the game was at least interesting late into the fourth quarter before Von Miller and the Broncos' wrecking ball defense ended Cam Newton and the 15-1 Panthers' dreams.
18. Super Bowl XXXI (Green Bay 35, New England 21) - My first taste of heartache as a young Patriots fan. I was too naive to recognize the slaughter the young Patriots were walking into, as Brett Favre, Reggie White, Desmond Howard, and the 1996 Packers were better in every way. This game was not nearly as close as the final score would indicate.
17. Super Bowl XXXVII (Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21) - Yet this game is closer than the final score would indicate. After taking a 34-3 lead, the Buccaneers and their legendary 2002 defense watched as Rich Gannon brought the game to within 14 late in the fourth quarter before consecutive pick-sixes turned this one into a laugher.
16. Super Bowl LIII (New England 13, Los Angeles Rams 3) – Some call it a bore, but I found this one to be a fascinating chess match. Defensive guru Bill Belichick painted his masterpiece in this game, holding Sean McVay and the vaunted Rams offense to a lone field goal and zero trips into the red zone.
15. Super Bowl XXX (Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 17) – Another game that was closer than the score would have indicated. The Steelers, vaulted by Bill Cowher’s gutsy onside kick call, were threatening to take a late lead before Neal O’Donnell literally threw it all away, and right into the waiting arms of Larry Brown.
14. Super Bowl XXXIX (New England 24, Philadelphia 21) – This game was really the culmination, and confirmation, of the 2000s Patriots dynasty. It was a tight, back-and-forth contest but when the Patriots needed it, they stepped on the gas and ended any chances of an Eagles victory.
13. Super Bowl XLV (Green Bay 31, Pittsburgh 25) – This is an underrated game, with two legendary franchises and two Hall of Fame quarterbacks going toe-to-toe. The Packers nearly squandered a big lead, but some gutsy Aaron Rodgers throws late sealed it.
12. Super Bowl XLVI (New York Giants 21, New England 17) – From here on out, the games are all great in their own regard. This one gets lost in the shuffle for being the underwhelming sequel to the unforgettable Super Bowl XLII, but it’s still a great game.
11. Super Bowl XLVII (Baltimore 34, San Francisco 31) – This was really a tale of two halves. Baltimore dominated the first half, but San Francisco came roaring back after the blackout at the Superdome, before some lousy play-calling near the goal line cost them a championship.
10. Super Bowl XLIV (New Orleans 31, Indianapolis 17) – You can’t do much better than Drew Brees and Peyton Manning in their respective primes, but it was Tracy Porter of all people who took this game and made it legendary.
9. Super Bowl XLII (New York Giants 17, New England 14) – I’m sure this ranking will be controversial to some who herald it as the greatest game ever played, and sure I’m jaded because it cost my team a perfect season, but this game was sneakily boring. Defense ruled the day – it was 7-3 entering the fourth quarter – until a wild late sequence made it forever unforgettable.
8. Super Bowl XXXII (Denver 31, Green Bay 24) – This felt like a revelation when it happened, as it was the first Super Bowl in what felt like ages to be competitive. And it set the tone for a two decade stretch of thrilling contests.
7. Super Bowl XXXVI (New England 20, St. Louis 17) – The birth of a dynasty, this is the only Super Bowl to be decided with a score on the game’s final play of regulation. It also showed that no matter the hype offenses receive, the old axiom rings true: defense wins championships…
5. Super Bowl LII (Philadelphia 41, New England 33) - …Until this game came along. A wild, back-and-forth shootout, this was the definition of excitement to some, while others cast it as video game Arena ball. Still, even though it breaks my heart to say it, it was a phenomenal game.
5. Super Bowl XLIII (Pittsburgh 27, Arizona 23) – While it’s got enough big plays to fill a highlight reel, this game didn’t really hit full throttle until the fourth quarter. Prior to that, Pittsburgh had the game relatively in hand for the most part.
4. Super Bowl XXXIV (St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16) - We were one yard away from the first overtime in Super Bowl history, with two dynamic newcomers to the scene trading blows. This game saw the script for “The Longest Yard” and said, “Nah, we can top that.”
3. Super Bowl LI (New England 34, Atlanta 28) – I love the hell out of this game, but really only for the second half and overtime. It’s an amazing, miraculous comeback, but it’s also a game that is a tale of two halves – Atlanta dominating early and New England clawing its way back with a perfect fourth quarter.
2. Super Bowl XXXVIII (New England 32, Carolina 29) – For the longest time, I thought this was the greatest football game I ever saw. Smash mouth football wherein defense rules the day for the first and third quarters, but wild scoring and big plays with offense dominating in the second and fourth quarters, all culminating in a game-winning field goal in the final seconds.
1. Super Bowl XLIX (New England 28, Seattle 24) – This, however, has supplanted that game. It’s a masterpiece, two of the best teams of their era just trading punches. It’s Ali versus Frazier, Tyson versus Holyfield, Steamboat versus Savage. Call it what you want, it’s the most intense, back-and-forth, show-stopping game ever and the best Super Bowl of all time. A game so good, it deserves a standing ovation and a bow from each of those who participated in it.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Feb 2, 2020 0:37:15 GMT -5
Chiefs 32 Niners 24, and it really isn’t as close as it looks.
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