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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2020 12:22:32 GMT -5
Charlotte has to win and get that main event payday. Those surgeries don't pay for themselves. WOOOO! Surgeries? What’s good with y’all and these weird comments
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 27, 2020 12:26:45 GMT -5
Charlotte has never and probably will never get a fair shake IMO, Flair's gradually turning into one of the great US women's workers of all time, to the point where I can imagine dream matches between her against Manami Toyota, Bull Nakano, etc. And charisma-wise I think she's underrated. The problem is she's also a victim of modern-day WWE's tend to oversaturate certain wrestlers and matchups, and also hot-potato booking in order to get both her and other people over. People buy into the kayfabe for Charlotte. Last year, we had Lynch and Rousey, the two most strongly booked women in years, and some people were STILL going, "Oh man, Charlotte's gonna win; the WWE always has Charlotte win."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 12:29:19 GMT -5
Charlotte has a main event spotlight again?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 27, 2020 12:31:05 GMT -5
IMO, Flair's gradually turning into one of the great US women's workers of all time, to the point where I can imagine dream matches between her against Manami Toyota, Bull Nakano, etc. And charisma-wise I think she's underrated. The problem is she's also a victim of modern-day WWE's tend to oversaturate certain wrestlers and matchups, and also hot-potato booking in order to get both her and other people over. People buy into the kayfabe for Charlotte. Last year, we had Lynch and Rousey, the two most strongly booked women in years, and some people were STILL going, "Oh man, Charlotte's gonna win; the WWE always has Charlotte win." I was 51% sure Charlotte was gonna win. Just thought they couldn’t resist the urge to give her the accolade and then have Becky win it the next night. WWE has a history of that and a go to line when asked “We got where we wanted to go. Do it when more eyes are on it”
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 27, 2020 12:34:53 GMT -5
People buy into the kayfabe for Charlotte. Last year, we had Lynch and Rousey, the two most strongly booked women in years, and some people were STILL going, "Oh man, Charlotte's gonna win; the WWE always has Charlotte win." I was 51% sure Charlotte was gonna win. Just thought they couldn’t resist the urge to give her the accolade and then have Becky win it the next night. WWE has a history of that and a go to line when asked “We got where we wanted to go. Do it when more eyes are on it” This is crazy to me. Lynch and Rousey demolished everyone heading into that match. Rousey is a "mainstream star" and the WWE is desperate to capitalize on that. Charlotte's CHARACTER is someone who has everything handed to her, but that hasn't been her booking.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 27, 2020 12:35:25 GMT -5
Well, after Charlotte won yesterday, and in pathetically hoping Asuka would win, the thought occurred to me, didn’t Meltzer or somebody report immediately after last years WrestleMania that Charlotte/Becky was the plan for this years?
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 27, 2020 12:38:36 GMT -5
IMO, Flair's gradually turning into one of the great US women's workers of all time, to the point where I can imagine dream matches between her against Manami Toyota, Bull Nakano, etc. And charisma-wise I think she's underrated. The problem is she's also a victim of modern-day WWE's tend to oversaturate certain wrestlers and matchups, and also hot-potato booking in order to get both her and other people over. People buy into the kayfabe for Charlotte. Last year, we had Lynch and Rousey, the two most strongly booked women in years, and some people were STILL going, "Oh man, Charlotte's gonna win; the WWE always has Charlotte win."
Just like people somehow thought Charlotte would win at Evolution 'just because' even though it was incredibly obvious that they were going to do Becky/Ronda at Survivor Series and that Becky had to win at Evolution first. Its interesting because the expectation she wins is part of the kayfabe, thanks in part to Becky working so hard to push the 'handed everything' stuff in her social media before Mania last year.
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Post by crowley1986 on Jan 27, 2020 12:38:40 GMT -5
I feel like WWE needs to move some of the women from NXT to Raw and Smackdown. They may never get as over as they are in NXT and may never given the respect that Triple H gives them, but I feel they need more matchups for the other women. Honestly I have somewhat a sneaky suspicion that Fox wants Charlotte back on Smackdown. Now more than likely it wont happen but that would be better for both brands than Becky/Charlotte again Put all the women on one show - say first hour of raw, have Women main, a mid card, Tag belts, and about 20-25 women on the show,,,give smackdown the tag division and if they insist on having women on all shows, maybe put a showcase match on SD....its should ease up on the repeat match ups constantly happening
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 27, 2020 12:43:34 GMT -5
I was 51% sure Charlotte was gonna win. Just thought they couldn’t resist the urge to give her the accolade and then have Becky win it the next night. WWE has a history of that and a go to line when asked “We got where we wanted to go. Do it when more eyes are on it” This is crazy to me. Lynch and Rousey demolished everyone heading into that match. Rousey is a "mainstream star" and the WWE is desperate to capitalize on that. Charlotte's CHARACTER is someone who has everything handed to her, but that hasn't been her booking. That was mine and a lot other people’s problem with the match. Charlotte didn’t need to be there. She derailed Asuka on the way, which absolutely didn’t need to happen. But Charlotte is racking up accolades and if she faced Asuka somewhere else on the card they couldn’t say she was in the Main Event of WrestleMania! And they needed that because of the unknown status of Ronda moving forward.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2020 12:48:50 GMT -5
This is crazy to me. Lynch and Rousey demolished everyone heading into that match. Rousey is a "mainstream star" and the WWE is desperate to capitalize on that. Charlotte's CHARACTER is someone who has everything handed to her, but that hasn't been her booking. That was mine and a lot other people’s problem with the match. Charlotte didn’t need to be there. She derailed Asuka on the way, which absolutely didn’t need to happen. But Charlotte is racking up accolades and if she faced Asuka somewhere else on the card they couldn’t say she was in the Main Event of WrestleMania! And they needed that because of the unknown status of Ronda moving forward. 100% disagree. She needed to be in there. I did not trust Ronda vs Ronda to be a compelling match in regards to not f***ing up and with Ronda still being green you needed a general in there to keep shit in line. Add on the paranoia fans have about Charlotte and it is a perfect circle. Also WWE derailed Asuka not Charlotte. That was to make Beckys moment bigger, Charlotte getting another short title run is a just an after thought
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 27, 2020 12:51:33 GMT -5
That was mine and a lot other people’s problem with the match. Charlotte didn’t need to be there. She derailed Asuka on the way, which absolutely didn’t need to happen. But Charlotte is racking up accolades and if she faced Asuka somewhere else on the card they couldn’t say she was in the Main Event of WrestleMania! And they needed that because of the unknown status of Ronda moving forward. 100% disagree. She needed to be in there. I did not trust Ronda vs Ronda to be a compelling match in regards to not f***ing up and with Ronda still being green you needed a general in there to keep shit in line. Add on the paranoia fans have about Charlotte and it is a perfect circle. Also WWE derailed Asuka not Charlotte. That was to make Beckys moment bigger, Charlotte getting another short title run is a just an after thought You don’t find a short run that’s just an afterthought is a problem?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 27, 2020 12:52:55 GMT -5
100% disagree. She needed to be in there. I did not trust Ronda vs Ronda to be a compelling match in regards to not f***ing up and with Ronda still being green you needed a general in there to keep shit in line. Add on the paranoia fans have about Charlotte and it is a perfect circle. Also WWE derailed Asuka not Charlotte. That was to make Beckys moment bigger, Charlotte getting another short title run is a just an after thought You don’t find a short run that’s just an afterthought is a problem? It's a very different problem from Charlotte always being booked to win.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2020 12:54:47 GMT -5
100% disagree. She needed to be in there. I did not trust Ronda vs Ronda to be a compelling match in regards to not f***ing up and with Ronda still being green you needed a general in there to keep shit in line. Add on the paranoia fans have about Charlotte and it is a perfect circle. Also WWE derailed Asuka not Charlotte. That was to make Beckys moment bigger, Charlotte getting another short title run is a just an after thought You don’t find a short run that’s just an afterthought is a problem? No, what consequence does it have when it did nothing to serve Charlotte except add a token run She literally only won the title to make the moment bigger for Becky. Let's not spin this any other way then the truth. Asuka being an afterthought after she beat Becky at the Rumble is the bigger problem
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 27, 2020 12:55:32 GMT -5
You don’t find a short run that’s just an afterthought is a problem? It's a very different problem from Charlotte always being booked to win. It’s part of the same overall illness.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2020 12:55:54 GMT -5
You don’t find a short run that’s just an afterthought is a problem? It's a very different problem from Charlotte always being booked to win. Yea, one has nothing to do with the other This wasn't LOLCHARLOTTEWINS, it was Charlotte won to make Becky moment as big as possible
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 27, 2020 13:07:17 GMT -5
It's a very different problem from Charlotte always being booked to win. It’s part of the same overall illness. But we're talking about Charlotte always being booked to win? I've realized the importance of memes recently. I think people believe Charlotte always wins because people say on Twitter a lot that Charlotte always wins.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jan 27, 2020 13:23:03 GMT -5
I find myself whelmed by this outcome.
wonder if they will do a swerve though and have charlotte go after rhea ripley instead. I can't see her going after bayley (unless she loses) due to the circle of relationships between her Andrade, zelina and aleister that would all be affected by her going to smackdown (unless another draft is planned post mania). charlotte/becky is as someone else said the female cena/orton at this point. charlotte dominated the feud pre-"the Man" and becky dominated since then. no doubt a series of time limit draws is the plan for stage three for the sacred 50/50 booking
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Post by Instant Classic on Jan 27, 2020 14:04:17 GMT -5
But where do you go from here with her? Becky vs Charlotte again? No thanks. A rematch of last years mania match, ehh? Charlotte vs Booley? Pass..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 14:09:58 GMT -5
Well, one good thing I'll say about Becky vs. Charlotte at WM is I'd definitely take it over Charlotte vs. Bayley. Charlotte and Bayley have had a bunch of matches with each other on the main roster and I can only remember one actually being good.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 27, 2020 14:11:21 GMT -5
Well, one good thing I'll say about Becky vs. Charlotte at WM is I'd definitely take it over Charlotte vs. Bayley. Have Charlotte and Bayley had more than one good match against each other on the main roster? Not that I could think of When Bayley first came up she was so nervous that Charlotte basically schooled her and outclassed her. Since then the matches have been merely okay
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