J.R on how Rock/Hogan should've been WM18 main event

[héad.casé]

"Jericho and Triple H had to close the show and follow Rock and Hogan, and that was no favor to those guys. You know Triple H is going to raise hell if you don't close the show with the title, Jericho the same, we deserve to close the show with the title, it's the top match, and you do, I'm not going to argue that point. But on this night, the special night with Hogan and Rock, you have to use a different logic."

"As much as I respect and appreciate Paul Levesque and Chris Jericho, they were put into an unwinnable situation. It was the first time I can recall, before or since I was having a hard time getting up for the main event of WrestleMania, because I just seen the WrestleMania main event. It was Hogan and Rock."

"Lawler and I knew that the NWO and Hogan as the villain wasn't going to be the guy we had in the ring tonight. I said to somebody after the show, it was like the return of The Eagles, all intact and the first song they sung was Hotel California. Everybody knew the words, everybody knew the beat, they knew everything. They had felt it, they heard it before and now we're seeing our version of The Eagles in Hogan against the new guy, who's bigger than life."

"So we changed the roles. I admire the talent for steering the course, they didn't do a lot of things differently, the subtle things they did were beautiful and then Lawler and I just went with it. Vince said just go with your instincts, so that's what we did. We called what we saw."

www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2020/02/jim-ross-on-why-the-rock-vs-steve-austin-didnt-close-666829/

[Bub (BLM)]

100% accurate.

[Moppy]

Hasn't Triple H gone on record on 2 separate occasions, claiming in one interview that he and Jericho insisted that the title should go on last, and in another that they asked not to follow Hogan and Rock?

Can't find the interviews in question for the life of me but I could have sworn I remember them.

[arrogantmodel]

Feb 23, 2020 13:10:00 GMT -5 Moppy said:

Hasn't Triple H gone on record on 2 separate occasions, claiming in one interview that he and Jericho insisted that the title should go on last, and in another that they asked not to follow Hogan and Rock?

Can't find the interviews in question for the life of me but I could have sworn I remember them.

And didn't Triple H come to his senses after having to follow Undertaker/HBK at WM 25? Then again, Trips wasn't in the title scene at 26, so he probably didn't care who went on last.

[chrom]

Normally I believe the Champ should always Main Event but in that case yes Hogan/Rock needed to be last

[flakeymcgill]

It was the main event for all intents and purposes. Anyone who has ever seen that show considers it the main event. Everyone who was there saw it as the main event. i think what hurt the title match more was how much of an absolutely foregone conclusion it was. There was zero energy going into that match because nobody doubted what the outcome would be. Even if Hogan and Rock and stunk the Sky Dome out, there would have been a flat atmosphere for the title match that night.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Feb 23, 2020 13:10:00 GMT -5 Moppy said:

Hasn't Triple H gone on record on 2 separate occasions, claiming in one interview that he and Jericho insisted that the title should go on last, and in another that they asked not to follow Hogan and Rock?

Can't find the interviews in question for the life of me but I could have sworn I remember them.

He’s also gone on record as saying Warrior ruined his Mania 12 experience with his antics and unprofessional conduct right up until Warrior died then it was an honour and really, only wrestling Jesus himself would have been a bigger deal.

[TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out]

Feb 23, 2020 13:15:10 GMT -5 arrogantmodel said:

Feb 23, 2020 13:10:00 GMT -5 Moppy said:

Hasn't Triple H gone on record on 2 separate occasions, claiming in one interview that he and Jericho insisted that the title should go on last, and in another that they asked not to follow Hogan and Rock?

Can't find the interviews in question for the life of me but I could have sworn I remember them.

And didn't Triple H come to his senses after having to follow Undertaker/HBK at WM 25? Then again, Trips wasn't in the title scene at 26, so he probably didn't care who went on last.

It sounds kinda silly now but going into WM 25 Taker/HBK wasn't that hot. Michaels just got out of an absolutely horrific feud where he became JBL's "employee" due to the recession (don't ask) and only faced Undertaker because he beat Vladmir Koslov on Smackdown 5 weeks before Wrestlemania. Both HHH/Orton and Jericho/Legends had way better builds

[fw91]

Feb 23, 2020 16:50:43 GMT -5 TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out said:

Feb 23, 2020 13:15:10 GMT -5 arrogantmodel said:

And didn't Triple H come to his senses after having to follow Undertaker/HBK at WM 25? Then again, Trips wasn't in the title scene at 26, so he probably didn't care who went on last.

It sounds kinda silly now but going into WM 25 Taker/HBK wasn't that hot. Michaels just got out of an absolutely horrific feud where he became JBL's "employee" due to the recession (don't ask) and only faced Undertaker because he beat Vladmir Koslov on Smackdown 5 weeks before Wrestlemania. Both HHH/Orton and Jericho/Legends had way better builds

yeah HBK/Taker at 25 didn't really have much of a build besides it's HBK's turn to try to end the streak.

[Cyno]

I'm usually on board for a world title match being the main event. But Rock vs. Hogan was a battle of the generations and a belated battle of WWF's best vs. WCW's best. It was the sort of spectacle that should trump a world title match as the main event at a Wrestlemania.

[cabbageboy]

It also didn't help that the Jericho/HHH feud was utterly awful and had zero heat. But yeah at the time HHH absolutely wanted the title match to main event.

[Dub H]

Feb 23, 2020 14:16:20 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Feb 23, 2020 13:10:00 GMT -5 Moppy said:

Hasn't Triple H gone on record on 2 separate occasions, claiming in one interview that he and Jericho insisted that the title should go on last, and in another that they asked not to follow Hogan and Rock?

Can't find the interviews in question for the life of me but I could have sworn I remember them.

He’s also gone on record as saying Warrior ruined his Mania 12 experience with his antics and unprofessional conduct right up until Warrior died then it was an honour and really, only wrestling Jesus himself would have been a bigger deal.

Tripel H says a lot of things.

Almost none you should believe at face value

[Andee9001]

It was the only featured match on the poster. Of course it should have been the main event.

[Deleted]

It would really not shock me if the WWE didn't realize (or grossly underestimated) the severity of this match's importance until that beautiful Toronto crowd - pardon my French - marked out like a uncontrollable rabble of very loud motherf***ers for Hulk Hogan.

Feb 23, 2020 14:16:20 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Feb 23, 2020 13:10:00 GMT -5 Moppy said:

Hasn't Triple H gone on record on 2 separate occasions, claiming in one interview that he and Jericho insisted that the title should go on last, and in another that they asked not to follow Hogan and Rock?

Can't find the interviews in question for the life of me but I could have sworn I remember them.

He’s also gone on record as saying Warrior ruined his Mania 12 experience with his antics and unprofessional conduct right up until Warrior died then it was an honour and really, only wrestling Jesus himself would have been a bigger deal.

So you're saying HHHe spews bullcrap?



I am shocked.


SHOCKED I SAY!

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

You have to do this on a case-by-case basis, I think, although it’s trickier now though with the overall runtime of WrestleMania being a fatigue factor, so it’s almost better that your hottest match is halfway/two-thirds in as opposed to being the proper, last match of the night main event.

[111111]

They did main event mania though.

Rock and Hogan were literally on all the posters and marketing material, the dvd cover and were the main hyped featured fued in the lead up to the show on television.

The main event isn't necesarilly the match that goes on last, to me its the match they sold the entire show on which was Rock V Hogan.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Rock vs. Hogan with the Rock winning and Hogan officially turning face makes for a powerful show-closing moment.

[Bub (BLM)]

Feb 23, 2020 13:10:00 GMT -5 Moppy said:

Hasn't Triple H gone on record on 2 separate occasions, claiming in one interview that he and Jericho insisted that the title should go on last, and in another that they asked not to follow Hogan and Rock?

Can't find the interviews in question for the life of me but I could have sworn I remember them.

Triple H is only honest when talking about non-business related stuff. Something I kind if noticed a while back. Hes not a ridiculous liar like Hogan, he just says things to make himself sound like a smart businessman. Which, when you look at his current role, makes total sense.

[Cyno]

Triple H is an expert bullshit artist, which is what got him far in both backstage politics and in DIS BIZNESS as a suit.

[Deleted]

A lot has always been said about how it sucked for Tri and Jericho to follow Rock/Hogan but I feel worse for the women's title match that was in between them. No one talks about that match.