thehottag
Don Corleone
We're here for one reason only: fame, fortune, & the World Wrestling Federation Tag Team Champions!
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Post by thehottag on Apr 1, 2020 15:26:51 GMT -5
I remember him yelling on Twitter that his reign wasn't 'an experiment' & that he wasn't on steroids, even though both things were absolutely the case.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Apr 1, 2020 15:55:57 GMT -5
I remember when Heyman just responded to his challenge to Brock by straight up burying him to the point where I even felt sorry for the guy. Yeah, he basically laughed at him... and then AJ Styles like immediately beat him for the title the next week... It was very much a ... yeah Heyman was right that Jinder vs. Brock wasn't selling any shows but... like it's not Jinder's fault the company put him in that position Yeah, I knew they were done with the Jinder experiment right then.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 1, 2020 15:59:02 GMT -5
Kinder is gonna take out Carole Baskin?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 1, 2020 16:00:10 GMT -5
Remember how Jinder's back transformed as well as the rest of his body? I saw that shit up close, that bacne made EC3 look clean in comparison.
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Pushed to the Moon
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Tony Schiavone in Disguise
Working myself into a shoot
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Apr 1, 2020 16:10:00 GMT -5
Where is the J-man these days? Can't even vaguely remember the last time I saw him on TV.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 1, 2020 16:11:54 GMT -5
Where is the J-man these days? Can't even vaguely remember the last time I saw him on TV. Went out with a Knee Injury back in June that needed surgery.
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Rave
El Dandy
Perpetually Bored
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Post by Rave on Apr 1, 2020 16:24:25 GMT -5
Like Ben Wyatt said, it didn't have to be nearly as bad as it was, and it sucks that Jinder takes so much of the blame when the booking was so mind-bogglingly awful at every turn that it felt like sabotage. Jinder takes so much of the blame because he claimed he had creative control during the entire thing. If he really did, he could've used it to mitigate some of the worst aspects of what happened, but he chose to do nothing about it.
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Post by Raskovnik on Apr 1, 2020 16:27:27 GMT -5
I stopped following WWE entirely after he won. He's not very good at promos and he's not much in the ring either. Also, I just hate looking at his body, it's gross. It's like muscle fetish art come to life. Great entrance theme, though.
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
Better have my money when I come-a collect!
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Post by chazraps on Apr 1, 2020 16:31:32 GMT -5
I liked his pairing with Alicia Fox quite a bit.
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Apr 1, 2020 16:31:57 GMT -5
Kinder is gonna take out Carole Baskin? He needs a Mania falls-count-anywhere match at Applebee's.
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thehottag
Don Corleone
We're here for one reason only: fame, fortune, & the World Wrestling Federation Tag Team Champions!
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Post by thehottag on Apr 1, 2020 17:16:02 GMT -5
Jinder takes so much of the blame because he claimed he had creative control during the entire thing. If he really did, he could've used it to mitigate some of the worst aspects of what happened, but he chose to do nothing about it. Who's to say that he didn't? Truely a scary thought...
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Post by Starshine on Apr 1, 2020 18:10:03 GMT -5
In retrospect, it's very obvious WWE never really had their heart in on the whole deal. The guy was often barely featured on the show he was top champion on, and they cut and pasted everything he did, leaving you with a lazy groundhog's day style of booking that made little sense. Why would any babyface ever let the Singh's distract them for the 10th time knowing what was to follow? It was absurd.
Also Jinder just wasn't good, like at all. The guy seemed to trip over his own feet just applying rest holds, which he did in abundance. I understand that the actual wrestling isn't the biggest priority for WWE in who they push, but there has to be something of substance to it. Or at least they need some sort of dynamic personality, or magnetic charisma. When Jinder was thrown into the deep end of the pool he was still doing the crawl, it was never going to work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 18:17:04 GMT -5
Like Ben Wyatt said, it didn't have to be nearly as bad as it was, and it sucks that Jinder takes so much of the blame when the booking was so mind-bogglingly awful at every turn that it felt like sabotage. Jinder takes so much of the blame because he claimed he had creative control during the entire thing. If he really did, he could've used it to mitigate some of the worst aspects of what happened, but he chose to do nothing about it. I just have such a hard time believing that Jinder Mahal of all people was given creative control. I'd wager a guess that he was taking the bullets like a good company man. If he *did* though? Woof. You f***ed yourself as thoroughly as possible, big homie.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 1, 2020 18:42:48 GMT -5
They pushed him for the tour in India. It didn’t matter that he killed both attendance and the ratings they needed their tour in India. And when they went to india? Triple H pinned Jinder. That's both, best for business and good shit, pal.
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Post by eJm on Apr 1, 2020 18:49:56 GMT -5
In retrospect, it's very obvious WWE never really had their heart in on the whole deal. The guy was often barely featured on the show he was top champion on, and they cut and pasted everything he did, leaving you with a lazy groundhog's day style of booking that made little sense. Why would any babyface ever let the Singh's distract them for the 10th time knowing what was to follow? It was absurd. Also Jinder just wasn't good, like at all. The guy seemed to trip over his own feet just applying rest holds, which he did in abundance. I understand that the actual wrestling isn't the biggest priority for WWE in who they push, but there has to be something of substance to it. Or at least they need some sort of dynamic personality, or magnetic charisma. When Jinder was thrown into the deep end of the pool he was still doing the crawl, it was never going to work. Here’s the thing; Jinder was good in his role. His role as a, at best, jobber for the stars or even someone who can take moves rather than give many out. The key thing was that when they wanted to push him, they gave him no time to adapt or learn stuff for his future role as a main event player. If you’re good at using the computer to file documents and emails and spent most of your working life doing that, you’re going to suck at leading the team without much prep time because you haven’t had the training, the experience and more importantly, time.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Apr 1, 2020 19:06:34 GMT -5
They should have given Heath Slater the belt instead, he was 10 times more over than Jinder was. He’s at least as talented and way more charismatic. Could complete the trifecta of former 3MB members winning the championship.
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4real
Wade Wilson
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Post by 4real on Apr 2, 2020 0:51:32 GMT -5
Well he lost the belt in England. You’re welcome.
Other than that he suffered from the same problem JBL did when he won the title he just wasn’t built up enough. And Jinder was lower on the totem pole than JBL was when he won it. Both should have been pushed to US title level first but no were thrown in the deep end.
Could not wait for Jinder’s reign to be over. Complete waste of 6 months.
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Jonathan Michaels
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Apr 2, 2020 0:58:10 GMT -5
Well he lost the belt in England. You’re welcome. Other than that he suffered from the same problem JBL did when he won the title he just wasn’t built up enough. And Jinder was lower on the totem pole than JBL was when he won it. Both should have been pushed to US title level first but no were thrown in the deep end. Could not wait for Jinder’s reign to be over. Complete waste of 6 months. JBL had far more credibility, though, he was a former European champion, 3 time Tag champ and several Hardcore titles, it’s not a lot, but it’s way more than Jinder ever had.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 2, 2020 1:01:38 GMT -5
Well he lost the belt in England. You’re welcome. Other than that he suffered from the same problem JBL did when he won the title he just wasn’t built up enough. And Jinder was lower on the totem pole than JBL was when he won it. Both should have been pushed to US title level first but no were thrown in the deep end. Could not wait for Jinder’s reign to be over. Complete waste of 6 months. JBL had far more credibility, though, he was a former European champion, 3 time Tag champ and several Hardcore titles, it’s not a lot, but it’s way more than Jinder ever had. as I said earlier he was never a jobber and with the APA he was always treated as a serious asskicker regardless of if they had a title or not and were somewhere between mid to upper mid card for like all of their run. Bradshaw had a ton of credibility. Jinder didn't have any of that because again he was a career jobber... and for a lot of it he was a comedy jobber at that.
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Wade Wilson
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Post by 4real on Apr 2, 2020 1:07:28 GMT -5
Well he lost the belt in England. You’re welcome. Other than that he suffered from the same problem JBL did when he won the title he just wasn’t built up enough. And Jinder was lower on the totem pole than JBL was when he won it. Both should have been pushed to US title level first but no were thrown in the deep end. Could not wait for Jinder’s reign to be over. Complete waste of 6 months. JBL had far more credibility, though, he was a former European champion, 3 time Tag champ and several Hardcore titles, it’s not a lot, but it’s way more than Jinder ever had. O yes of course. But he still got a negative reaction when he won the belt. He made it work though towards the end which Jinder never really did.
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