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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 6:51:27 GMT -5
Yeah.. But she never pissed her pants... I remember my mum thinking it was too much when Austin held a gun to McMahon's head, even when it turned out to be a prank. I can't imagine her reaction had she seen the Pillman gun angle. They were both played out so differently, and in different contexts and settings. What put the Pillman angle of the top was that Austin broke in to Pillman's House. It wasn't in the middle of the ring. Funny enough, I remember jokes about that stemming from the segment where Stephanie wanted Bryan to relinquish the title and Brie slapped her and Stephanie ran away and the shadow on her dress made it seem like there was a dark stain on the seat of her dress. So maybe she did lol
They had to censor the gun to get away with that angle. That's how extreme it was at the time. Seriously beat the crap out of her! Never heard of this. I need to find out if the "shadow" is really shadow.
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Post by Bobeddy on Apr 13, 2020 7:19:08 GMT -5
They also had Austin fire a net gun at Nash once. It was weird. Or when Angle shot Big Show with a tranq gun.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Apr 13, 2020 8:40:32 GMT -5
I was thinking this one day if children's toys have that much of a wide selection of weapons and add ons in 'em as say 20 years ago? Isn't the whole guns thing in USA pretty popular stance anyways? I don't think guns in wrestling would be that controversial. I kind of see some character holding one as a prop, why not Hangman Page with revolver? Big E with bazookas and granades. Actually early on in their run the Smoking Gunns fired off cap pistols in the air before their matches and Chyna had her C9000 pyro bazooka.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 8:43:52 GMT -5
They also had Austin fire a net gun at Nash once. It was weird. Or when Angle shot Big Show with a tranq gun. While this was happening I was damn sure that team of Kurt Angle, Mark Jindrak and Luther Reigns was the next evolution! I made this team in every single wrestling game of mine.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 13, 2020 8:55:44 GMT -5
The Austin gun thing became less of an issue the moment he revealed it was a prank gun. The Pillman gun angle was a multiple segment suspense tease throughout the show with a home invasion bakdrop, also involving Pillman's real life family. If I recall, they ended the episode on a cliffhanger after Pillman appeared to start shooting. Why was one a big deal and not the other? Consider the full contexts of both segments.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 13, 2020 11:03:24 GMT -5
Didn't the Austin toy gun angle happen the same show as the debut of Mr.Socko? I'm pretty sure in my memory from 22 years ago that was the case.
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Post by cjh on Apr 13, 2020 11:12:12 GMT -5
Didn't the Austin toy gun angle happen the same show as the debut of Mr.Socko? I'm pretty sure in my memory from 22 years ago that was the case. Mr. Socko debuted a couple weeks earlier when Vince was in the hospital after having his leg broke by Undertaker and Kane.
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Post by bmfjules on Apr 13, 2020 11:13:55 GMT -5
The way they filmed the Pillman incident was gritty and realistic, very reminiscent of what ECW had been doing, and was played straight up by the announcers and if you did not know it was a work you could easily believe what was being presented to you as being a real incident. From the beginning, way before the BANG 3:16 flag appeared, the Austin/McMahon kidnapping was filmed and treated like a Wile E. Coyote/Roadrunner cartoon. It was entertaining, but unlike the Pillman incident where you only had to suspend disbelief a little bit--you can believe Austin is crazy enough to invade Pillman's home and Pillman is crazy enough to pull and use a gun, and WWE was already filming an interview segment there explaining the cameras catching it all, vs. Austin committing a literal armed felony and inviting camera men along for every step of the journey and no cops ever coming into the equation.
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Post by warden on Apr 13, 2020 11:18:44 GMT -5
With Vince's love of toilet humor, I would not be surprised at all if he really pissed himself for that bit. Vince also has zero problem looking like a fool on tv and in feuds. Too bad that trait skipped Stephanie. Shane got it though. Maybe it's only the McMahon men who carry that gene. She spent a good 18 months being called a slut my multiple wrestlers, had packed arenas chant about her being a ho, did entire segments where her breast implants were made fun of, got her shirt ripped off, and got beaten up several times usually by men. We can't act like she's never let herself be made to look foolish. Just because it doesn't happen now doesn't mean it has never happened. Even in recent years, she got her ass kicked by Ronda Rousey at Wrestlemania and got thrown in mud(?) by Vickie. She also had her face shoved in horse manure by trish and almost immediately after that trish dumped a bucket of what I think was molasses all over her. Funny stuff
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 13, 2020 11:24:10 GMT -5
They also had Austin fire a net gun at Nash once. It was weird. Nash's reaction to seeing the gun made the whole bit.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 13, 2020 11:31:04 GMT -5
The difference between Law&Order and Looney Tunes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 12:24:52 GMT -5
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Apr 13, 2020 13:29:44 GMT -5
I know with my posting history, this is ironic, but... Do people REALLY want to see Stephanie McMahon piss her pants??
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Post by Dub H on Apr 13, 2020 13:32:22 GMT -5
I guess because the second one was just a prank. Steve Austin was actually just a millenial youtuber. "Just a prank bro. It was just a social experiment"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 15:40:41 GMT -5
I know with my posting history, this is ironic, but... Do people REALLY want to see Stephanie McMahon piss her pants?? YES. WWE IS A PISSANT COMPANY.Now...
Then...Forever~!
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 13, 2020 15:45:40 GMT -5
I wasn't watching when this happened originally, but the footage I have seen of it always made it seem absolutely macabre.
Wasn't Pillman at least a heel? Or were he and Austin both heels? Wait, what the hell was this storyline about when one of them had a gun and the other was invading his house??
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 13, 2020 15:51:15 GMT -5
Pillman and Austin was played straight and before something like that became the norm. Add on Pillman dropping an F bomb in there as well
Austin/Vince wasn’t played like real life circumstances would come from this. Also, with it being a fake gun you have the payoff and the laughs come in with Vince pissing himself. Also, also, by the time they did this, this was on the lower end of the spectrum in regards to shock value
Not really a one to one comparison
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 16:47:01 GMT -5
Remember that time Kurt Angle shot Big Show with a shotgun?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 16:54:57 GMT -5
Remember that time Kurt Angle shot Big Show with a shotgun? More I watch it the funnier it gets, it really looks like Elmer Fudd finally 'bout to get his rabbity stew.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 14, 2020 4:14:45 GMT -5
Yeah.. But she never pissed her pants... I remember my mum thinking it was too much when Austin held a gun to McMahon's head, even when it turned out to be a prank. I can't imagine her reaction had she seen the Pillman gun angle. They were both played out so differently, and in different contexts and settings. What put the Pillman angle of the top was that Austin broke in to Pillman's House. It wasn't in the middle of the ring. Didnt Vickie throw up on her? Not piss but still bodily she was also thrown into brown "goop" by Vickie Guerrero on her last night with the company.
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