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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Apr 16, 2020 10:07:54 GMT -5
Noticed Lana hasn't been released alongside Rusev. Vince is determined to have his "CJ" character I suppose. She signed a 5 year deal a while ago. Rusev was still in negotiations before his release.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 16, 2020 10:08:15 GMT -5
Look to the companies trying to do the right thing during all this; companies that have nowhere near the resources WWE has, many of which have no overhead right now and no income without live events, yet are bending over backwards not to fire anyone. Plus, the solidarity showed by the major Japanese promotions during all of this is great, with even New Japan asking the Japanese government to just help make sure smaller promotions can still pay their wrestlers, and then Tanahashi even saying wrestling should be the last major entertainment option in Japan to reopen: The minute the WWE decided they wanted to be a publicly traded company the way they operate changed drastically, so they can't do things the other companies that are privately owned do. No, they absolutely can, they opt not to. They do have legal obligations to stockholders, but are under no legal obligation to take already record profits and maximize them to an even more cartoonish level.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 16, 2020 10:10:24 GMT -5
Look to the companies trying to do the right thing during all this; companies that have nowhere near the resources WWE has, many of which have no overhead right now and no income without live events, yet are bending over backwards not to fire anyone. Plus, the solidarity showed by the major Japanese promotions during all of this is great, with even New Japan asking the Japanese government to just help make sure smaller promotions can still pay their wrestlers, and then Tanahashi even saying wrestling should be the last major entertainment option in Japan to reopen: The minute the WWE decided they wanted to be a publicly traded company the way they operate changed drastically, so they can't do things the other companies that are privately owned do. Whats stopping then besides making a little less money?
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Post by Dub H on Apr 16, 2020 10:10:46 GMT -5
Noticed Lana hasn't been released alongside Rusev. Vince is determined to have his "CJ" character I suppose. She signed a 5 year deal a while ago. Rusev was still in negotiations before his release. So did The Good Brothers,that doesnt mean shit to WWE
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 16, 2020 10:13:13 GMT -5
I hope people will show the same anger at the Governor of Florida. Let me remind you, he won his election by 0.4%. That motherf***er still had beaches open a couple of weeks back. So yes of course. f*** him AND f*** Vince and co
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Post by Mecca on Apr 16, 2020 10:17:01 GMT -5
The minute the WWE decided they wanted to be a publicly traded company the way they operate changed drastically, so they can't do things the other companies that are privately owned do. No, they absolutely can, they opt not to. They do have legal obligations to stockholders, but are under no legal obligation to take already record profits and maximize them to an even more cartoonish level. I think you're right on a straight up level, but there's a reason all these companies on the stock market operate this way and do every little thing possible to maximize numbers.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Apr 16, 2020 10:20:57 GMT -5
I really don't get how current WWE contracts work. Talent can't quit for any reason and more time will be added in case of injury, but WWE can terminate them at any time? Maybe it's just because I don't spend a lot of time in the US, but that seems kinda like BS? I imagine it's somewhat like NFL contracts whereby you can sign a multi-year deal for huge $$$, but beyond the guaranteed money it's not really worth the paper it's printed on. They can cut you at will. So all these five year deals, it essentially gives the WWE the rights to employ them exclusively for that period. Though the WWE's seem to have always had a 90-day no-compete clause which has served as a bit of a severance package in the past.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Apr 16, 2020 10:21:12 GMT -5
Noticed Lana hasn't been released alongside Rusev. Vince is determined to have his "CJ" character I suppose. She signed a 5 year deal a while ago. Rusev was still in negotiations before his release. I feel vince would love to Candido him.
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 16, 2020 10:30:01 GMT -5
WWE doesn’t care about its low-tier talent. They only want to keep them out of AEW’s hands, Now that AEW can’t hire anyone WWE can get rid of talent it doesn’t want.
I hope some of the bigger talent can donate half their salary to the newly unemployed workers.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Apr 16, 2020 10:30:44 GMT -5
Noticed Lana hasn't been released alongside Rusev. Vince is determined to have his "CJ" character I suppose. I don’t want to enter Rusev’s mindset. Maybe he is at least glad that a paycheck is coming into the home.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 16, 2020 10:33:54 GMT -5
Did a quick bit of research since it was brought up. The McMahons didn’t donate the money to a Super PAC. Linda runs the Super PAC. The Super PAC pledged $18.5 million in advertising revenue to run advertisements favorable to the president from Labor Day through Election Day in Orlando and Tampa. As far as we know not a single cent from the McMahons could be involved. Still sleazy as all hell. I want to expand on this a bit. Not to defend the McMahons (because I give you all full consent to shoot me in the face the day that happens) but for clarity's sake. The SuperPAC that Linda runs is the main Trump 2020 affiliated SuperPAC. It definitely has a large contribution from the McMahons but is not in any way entirely or mostly their money. The SuperPAC made massive donations in 4 or 5 different states the same day they made the donation/ad buy in Florida. This was done for a few reasons, the main one being that DeSantis's handling of the crisis has tanked his and his party's polling numbers. The Florida governor's decision to make wrestling an essential business included all similar sporting events that could be done in a controlled environment, including golf and NASCAR. This has been the standard line for everyone he's affiliated with in politics, not the result of an absurdly timed donation. The donation happened because he's sticking to the party line, WWE is catching all the flack because it's wrestling and Vince is the only person greedy and crazy enough to still be running live events right now. If the PGA or NASCAR had their own facilities and production staffs available, they'd be doing the same. f*** a dirty billionaire firing his employees during a pandemic no matter what though Oh I’m sure helping prop up Governor Dingus was part of it. Let’s just not kid ourselves that they’re on the same team and a little bribe money goes a long way. I’m just curious what amount the other markets got because looking at their donation totals, a verrrrrry large chunk of that went to Florida markets right after he suddenly changed his mind on them being essential business. They made this mess and it’s their own fault that people are bringing out the magnifying glass to examine the situation. All because they didn’t want others playing with their toys.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 16, 2020 10:36:45 GMT -5
I really hope Aiden and Rusev sell themselves as a pair to whatever promotion. I would absolutely love to see what Rusev Day could have been without WWE.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 16, 2020 10:38:12 GMT -5
I feel like it's going to be really interesting when things get back to normal (or whatever the new normal will be after this). WWE isn't the only "team" in town anymore. AEW is now around and is this upstart company that from the outside looks extremely talent friendly. I could see them getting a bit of an uptick. Impact, from everything I have heard, has gotten better and might be able to take on some talent. As scummy as this was by WWE, is it possible in the long run, this move helps the wrestling industry as a whole? Maybe it's wishful thinking..... especially with how long this quarantine could last. I don't know.... just thinking out loud.
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Post by dav on Apr 16, 2020 10:40:59 GMT -5
I'm a bit behind on things, so only just saw these releases now and I'm honestly shocked at some of them. I would have thought someone like Heath Slater would have been kept on since I imagined he wasn't paid a lot compared to others and worked well as a jobber.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 16, 2020 10:42:27 GMT -5
I want to expand on this a bit. Not to defend the McMahons (because I give you all full consent to shoot me in the face the day that happens) but for clarity's sake. The SuperPAC that Linda runs is the main Trump 2020 affiliated SuperPAC. It definitely has a large contribution from the McMahons but is not in any way entirely or mostly their money. The SuperPAC made massive donations in 4 or 5 different states the same day they made the donation/ad buy in Florida. This was done for a few reasons, the main one being that DeSantis's handling of the crisis has tanked his and his party's polling numbers. The Florida governor's decision to make wrestling an essential business included all similar sporting events that could be done in a controlled environment, including golf and NASCAR. This has been the standard line for everyone he's affiliated with in politics, not the result of an absurdly timed donation. The donation happened because he's sticking to the party line, WWE is catching all the flack because it's wrestling and Vince is the only person greedy and crazy enough to still be running live events right now. If the PGA or NASCAR had their own facilities and production staffs available, they'd be doing the same. f*** a dirty billionaire firing his employees during a pandemic no matter what though Oh I’m sure helping prop up Governor Dingus was part of it. Let’s just not kid ourselves that they’re on the same team and a little bribe money goes a long way. I’m just curious what amount the other markets got because looking at their donation totals, a verrrrrry large chunk of that went to Florida markets right after he suddenly changed his mind on them being essential business. They made this mess and it’s their own fault that people are bringing out the magnifying glass to examine the situation. All because they didn’t want others playing with their toys. Well yea, it's pretty blatantly obvious where McMahons political views align. And I've seen some say stuff like this should spur on a union and hey that's a great idea in theory until you realize that in order for it to work you'd need the top guys to be on board and why would they be? If anything they'd make less money to help the little guys and wrestlers don't do that.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 16, 2020 10:42:31 GMT -5
Just woke up. No names today yet?
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 16, 2020 10:43:02 GMT -5
I want to expand on this a bit. Not to defend the McMahons (because I give you all full consent to shoot me in the face the day that happens) but for clarity's sake. The SuperPAC that Linda runs is the main Trump 2020 affiliated SuperPAC. It definitely has a large contribution from the McMahons but is not in any way entirely or mostly their money. The SuperPAC made massive donations in 4 or 5 different states the same day they made the donation/ad buy in Florida. This was done for a few reasons, the main one being that DeSantis's handling of the crisis has tanked his and his party's polling numbers. The Florida governor's decision to make wrestling an essential business included all similar sporting events that could be done in a controlled environment, including golf and NASCAR. This has been the standard line for everyone he's affiliated with in politics, not the result of an absurdly timed donation. The donation happened because he's sticking to the party line, WWE is catching all the flack because it's wrestling and Vince is the only person greedy and crazy enough to still be running live events right now. If the PGA or NASCAR had their own facilities and production staffs available, they'd be doing the same. f*** a dirty billionaire firing his employees during a pandemic no matter what though Oh I’m sure helping prop up Governor Dingus was part of it. Let’s just not kid ourselves that they’re on the same team and a little bribe money goes a long way. I’m just curious what amount the other markets got because looking at their donation totals, a verrrrrry large chunk of that went to Florida markets right after he suddenly changed his mind on them being essential business. They made this mess and it’s their own fault that people are bringing out the magnifying glass to examine the situation. All because they didn’t want others playing with their toys. The ad buy was for the 2020 presidential race, not the next governor’s race.
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 16, 2020 10:43:46 GMT -5
Oh I’m sure helping prop up Governor Dingus was part of it. Let’s just not kid ourselves that they’re on the same team and a little bribe money goes a long way. I’m just curious what amount the other markets got because looking at their donation totals, a verrrrrry large chunk of that went to Florida markets right after he suddenly changed his mind on them being essential business. They made this mess and it’s their own fault that people are bringing out the magnifying glass to examine the situation. All because they didn’t want others playing with their toys. Well yea, it's pretty blatantly obvious where McMahons political views align. And I've seen some say stuff like this should spur on a union and hey that's a great idea in theory until you realize that in order for it to work you'd need the top guys to be on board and why would they be? If anything they'd make less money to help the little guys and wrestlers don't do that. Are wrestlers really that greedy?
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Post by chrom on Apr 16, 2020 10:45:17 GMT -5
Just woke up. No names today yet? A couple from NXT
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Post by Dub H on Apr 16, 2020 10:45:54 GMT -5
Oh I’m sure helping prop up Governor Dingus was part of it. Let’s just not kid ourselves that they’re on the same team and a little bribe money goes a long way. I’m just curious what amount the other markets got because looking at their donation totals, a verrrrrry large chunk of that went to Florida markets right after he suddenly changed his mind on them being essential business. They made this mess and it’s their own fault that people are bringing out the magnifying glass to examine the situation. All because they didn’t want others playing with their toys. The ad buy was for the 2020 presidential race, not the next governor’s race. And with getting that the governor gets money, campaign,power and support from the president.
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