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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 30, 2020 15:54:02 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 30, 2020 15:55:36 GMT -5
Both shows sit at 600,000-700,000 during these times which is good for them in the grand scheme of things in terms of a solid audience to count on
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Apr 30, 2020 16:01:04 GMT -5
Sling is doing a thing right now where they make a bunch of channels available from 5pm to Midnight.
Both USA and TNT are among them, so I was able to switch between Dynamite and NXT for the first time.
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Post by markymark on May 1, 2020 7:59:38 GMT -5
Last weeks breakdown: Q1: Dream/UE angle, Tegan/Shotzi vs Dakota/Raquel: 728K Q2: Drake Maverick promo, Maverick vs Atlas: 674K Q3: Lee/Priest videopackage, beginning of Kushida vs Nese: 667K Q4: Kushida vs Nese, Riddle/Thatcher interview: 685K Q5: Gargano family dinner, Yim vs Kamea: 693K Q6: Charlotte/Yim confrontation, Chelsea Green bikini photoshoot, Gallager videopackage, beginning of Gallager vs Fantasma: 707K Q7:Fantasma vs Gallager, kidnapping angle during Fantasma : 699K Q8: Dream/Lumis vs Strong/Cole 697K
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 14:11:38 GMT -5
So instead of drguging up a whole new thread just for this.
From wrestling observer.
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Post by Dub H on May 4, 2020 14:39:56 GMT -5
So instead of drguging up a whole new thread just for this. From wrestling observer. Turns out NXT fan doesnt want someone thay has hogged the main roster spotlight to hog the spotlight of their loved division?Could just be bad luck too but I am not so sure
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Post by Steveweiser on May 4, 2020 16:47:30 GMT -5
Meltzer actually tried blaming Mia Yim for the low number, when she's produced good numbers for NXT in the past (namely against Io Shirai and Dakota Kai), while Charlotte has been proven over many years not to be a ratings draw.
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Post by Dub H on May 4, 2020 20:17:53 GMT -5
Meltzer actually tried blaming Mia Yim for the low number, when she's produced good numbers for NXT in the past (namely against Io Shirai and Dakota Kai), while Charlotte has been proven over many years not to be a ratings draw. People accuse Meltzer of being biased toward the Elite but I never seen him praise and defend someone as much as Charlotte
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 4, 2020 20:20:10 GMT -5
So instead of drguging up a whole new thread just for this. From wrestling observer. Good. They really deserve this for thinking people wanna deal with Charlotte on two shows. They don't even wanna deal with her on one.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 20:32:44 GMT -5
Charlotte just runs completely counter to the actual appeal of NXT. The biggest strengths of the show are that it has little of the trappings of main roster WWE and that it has a very strong women's division.... so put in one of the crown jewels of the main roster women's division whose presence has been badly beaten into the ground through overexposure and bad booking to where face or heel the women's division's largely existed the last few years entirely in service of putting her over. Brilliant.
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Post by cabbageboy on May 4, 2020 22:55:50 GMT -5
The problem with trying to blame Mia Yim is that pretty much anyone NXT related would fall into this same category against Charlotte. When Charlotte/Io bombs in the ratings as well is it because of Shirai? Charlotte soundly defeated the standard bearer in NXT (Ripley) so what chance do these other chicks have? If Charlotte had to win that title at least have her cheat, put her feet on the ropes, or something against Rhea to set up something.
What I don't understand is why I'm having to watch Charlotte on two shows when she's ratings death on both of them. I bet that 3rd hour with her and Liv Morgan will crater as well. What's odd is that they could use this Charlotte time to maybe feature Bianca Belair or anyone else not in the MITB match.
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Post by mistery on May 4, 2020 23:21:50 GMT -5
The problem with trying to blame Mia Yim is that pretty much anyone NXT related would fall into this same category against Charlotte. When Charlotte/Io bombs in the ratings as well is it because of Shirai? Charlotte soundly defeated the standard bearer in NXT (Ripley) so what chance do these other chicks have? If Charlotte had to win that title at least have her cheat, put her feet on the ropes, or something against Rhea to set up something. What I don't understand is why I'm having to watch Charlotte on two shows when she's ratings death on both of them. I bet that 3rd hour with her and Liv Morgan will crater as well. What's odd is that they could use this Charlotte time to maybe feature Bianca Belair or anyone else not in the MITB match. To put it in simple terms: WWE operates under the mistaken assumption that people actually like Charlotte enough to go out of their way to watch her. When that couldn't be further from the truth. I already decided that if Charlotte goes over Io clean on Wednesday, I'm done with NXT until they learn to start treating Io with respect. So probably never. She's been screwed over for the better part of a year despite being one of their hottest stars in the entire division. And she's never going to be rewarded for it. If Io loses on Wednesday, she's not getting that title. Ever. It'll go back to Rhea, who will probably drop it to Candice. Who will probably end up dropping it to Tegan or something. And by that point, Io will be on the main roster, jobbing to Becky or Charlotte some more as the third Kabuki Warrior.
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Post by koreycaskets on May 4, 2020 23:24:57 GMT -5
Complete serious question..
Would Roman Reigns spike NXT ratings?
Roman Reigns vs Keith Lee could be kinda cool.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 23:27:27 GMT -5
Complete serious question.. Would Roman Reigns spike NXT ratings? Roman Reigns vs Keith Lee could be kinda cool. Doubtful. He might get a bit of a curiosity rise but there's really no evidence whatsoever that Roman is any kind of draw.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 23:35:35 GMT -5
Meltzer actually tried blaming Mia Yim for the low number, when she's produced good numbers for NXT in the past (namely against Io Shirai and Dakota Kai), while Charlotte has been proven over many years not to be a ratings draw. This comes as a big surprise to me. I like Mia as a person (not that I really know her) and have so much admiration for her as a domestic abuse survivor, but as a performer she's just so damn uninteresting right now.
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Post by cabbageboy on May 5, 2020 10:04:37 GMT -5
In the context of the booking Io is basically the same as Mia Yim in the eyes of WWE. So yeah, get ready to boycott NXT since Charlotte will tap her out to the Figure 8. Isn't Kairi Sane going back to Japan when her contract is up? That'll be Io's spot on the main roster, being Asuka's new tag partner in the Kabuki Warriors.
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Post by mistery on May 5, 2020 12:50:26 GMT -5
In the context of the booking Io is basically the same as Mia Yim in the eyes of WWE. So yeah, get ready to boycott NXT since Charlotte will tap her out to the Figure 8. Isn't Kairi Sane going back to Japan when her contract is up? That'll be Io's spot on the main roster, being Asuka's new tag partner in the Kabuki Warriors. The rumor is Kairi might head back. Key word: Rumor. There is no source for it other than Dave making assumptions. He doesn't actually have any info and has admitted as such. And by that logic, Kairi could be trying to get her husband to move over to the US as well. She's following the US Embassy Japan and US Embassy accounts for immigration now. As for Io, the big difference between Mia and Io in the eyes of the fans is that Io is a lot more popular. Especially with the younger audience. Charlotte going over Io could backfire on NXT massively. I know a decent chunk of people will tune out if Charlotte goes over. And won't come back until NXT starts treating Io with respect and gives her an actual decent push and title reign, as she's been constantly pushed to the side for others despite being infinitely more popular. Even if Rhea returns, the fact that she can't keep herself out of trouble for more than a month or two is a really bad sign. Just a couple of days ago she called her boyfriend "one of the good ones", which is kind of a racist dogwhistle.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 13:12:29 GMT -5
Said it when the match was announced last week that this will be the most important match for NXT in awhile and IMO the most important one on the show because it is going to show alot depending on the outcome.
If Charlotte wins well you have now pulled the rug out from alot of peoples favourite for a 4th time by jobbing her out to the woman no one wants in NXT at all and now the most praised division in the whole company is now the exact same as every other womens roster in the company a geeks row of women for the horsewomen to trample through and drive away current and potential future viewers.
If Io wins NXT will have given the audience what they want by putting the belt on easily your most over female talent in NXT if not overall and showed you are listening to your audience and that will hopefully bring more eyes to the show.
It is WWE's booking Vs the audiences desire on this one and every single time WWE pushed against the audience it never ends well for them.
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Post by mistery on May 5, 2020 13:46:47 GMT -5
To add onto this, Wrestlenomics compiled a report on the biggest draws for each brand and I hope everyone is ready for a shocker. Charlotte doesn't even register on the list. i.imgur.com/qtQBP1f.png
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Post by ihateeverythingnu on May 5, 2020 13:51:57 GMT -5
Mia Yim seems so much slower and.... not as good as she did in the MYC.
Has she got a long term injury that's slowing her down or something or is she secretly much older than I thought and age is catching up?
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