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Post by eJm on May 5, 2020 10:52:55 GMT -5
Without watching, so take this at face value, could it have been just saying that Seth beat Brock at Wrestlemania, just like Drew did? I mean, that would make sense on editing it to where Roman doesn’t appear if that’s what they were going for. Having seen the clip, Seth runs in, cashes in MITB, he hits Lesnar with a curb stomp, fades to black and then shows him with the best and spinning it in the air. No Roman, none of the other curb stomps, anything. Also, if that were the case, why wouldn’t they have shown the time Seth DID beat Lesnar at WrestleMania last year? (If it wasn’t in a clip later, I mean)
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 10:54:34 GMT -5
How many times has this one match been retconned at this point?
Seth pinned Roman with the curb stomp.
Then Seth pinned Roman after he knocked himself out spearing Lesnar.
Then Seth pinned Roman with the Pedigree.
Then Roman never existed.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 5, 2020 10:57:56 GMT -5
How many times has this one match been retconned at this point? Seth pinned Roman with the curb stomp. Then Seth pinned Roman after he knocked himself out spearing Lesnar. Then Seth pinned Roman with the Pedigree. Then Roman never existed. Somebody from the future keeps f***ing with the space-time continuum. Next time we see it, somehow Viktor from The Ascension will be the guy that won.
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Post by eJm on May 5, 2020 10:59:32 GMT -5
How many times has this one match been retconned at this point? Seth pinned Roman with the curb stomp. Then Seth pinned Roman after he knocked himself out spearing Lesnar. Then Seth pinned Roman with the Pedigree. Then Roman never existed. Somebody from the future keeps f***ing with the space-time continuum. Next time we see it, somehow Viktor from The Ascension will be the guy that won. And that’s how he gets hired back and given the push of his life.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on May 5, 2020 11:01:00 GMT -5
Don't get the full context of this, but if they were censoring Reigns entirely, then they're not getting the memo on Youtube I guess.
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Post by 4real on May 5, 2020 11:01:27 GMT -5
Did Seth even hit Brock with a curb stomp in the match? I remember him going for one and Lesnar catching him for an F5 which led to a spear by Roman then Curb stomp on Roman then 123 right?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 11:22:23 GMT -5
Did Seth even hit Brock with a curb stomp in the match? I remember him going for one and Lesnar catching him for an F5 which led to a spear by Roman then Curb stomp on Roman then 123 right? He hit it then went for a second, Brock caught him, Reigns speared Lesnar, then he curbstomped Roman. Happen to remember since I rewatched the finish relatively recently. Edit: Misremembered slightly, he only actually hit it once.
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Post by The Gallus Mark on May 5, 2020 11:26:17 GMT -5
Without watching, so take this at face value, could it have been just saying that Seth beat Brock at Wrestlemania, just like Drew did? I mean, that would make sense on editing it to where Roman doesn’t appear if that’s what they were going for. Having seen the clip, Seth runs in, cashes in MITB, he hits Lesnar with a curb stomp, fades to black and then shows him with the best and spinning it in the air. No Roman, none of the other curb stomps, anything. Also, if that were the case, why wouldn’t they have shown the time Seth DID beat Lesnar at WrestleMania last year? (If it wasn’t in a clip later, I mean) 😂 I forgot that he did beat him last year lol
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 5, 2020 11:31:15 GMT -5
At face value, it is the whole I beat Brock multiple times and you only beat him once narrative
But they don't get that benefit of doubt when he pinned Roman as that can easily be shown
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 11:33:13 GMT -5
At face value, it is the whole I beat Brock multiple times and you only beat him once narrative But they don't get that benefit of doubt when he pinned Roman as that can easily be shown Plus could easily just recap Mania 35 and SummerSlam in that case.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 5, 2020 11:33:51 GMT -5
Highly doubtful and there’s no reason to think they’re mad at him for prioritizing his health.. He’s still in the open for Smackdown too as the last wrestler shown. Eh, there have been cases where openings take an age to edit because of the angles, graphics and shots that have to be there. There were countless times where people were in intros that were injured or hadn’t been on the show in weeks. Considering events like WM are usually filmed by several camera crews, it’s much easier to edit that stuff than intros. The Raw intro still has Seth Rollins as the last guy shown, even though he’s not the “main” face anymore.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 5, 2020 11:34:44 GMT -5
It's still not as weird as the ending to Mania 20 when Triple H fell to the ground and just started slapping the mat.
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Post by eJm on May 5, 2020 11:36:42 GMT -5
At face value, it is the whole I beat Brock multiple times and you only beat him once narrative But they don't get that benefit of doubt when he pinned Roman as that can easily be shown Plus could easily just recap Mania 35 and SummerSlam in that case. The latter actually being a genuine, clean victory. It was quickly scrubbed out and voided with Brock winning a title again not long after but it still happened.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 5, 2020 11:37:28 GMT -5
At face value, it is the whole I beat Brock multiple times and you only beat him once narrative But they don't get that benefit of doubt when he pinned Roman as that can easily be shown Plus could easily just recap Mania 35 and SummerSlam in that case. Well, yes and no If you want to make Seth look like this sneaky conniving person then yea the WM footage with him "stealing" the title is the best way to go but your basically retconning history If you're going to shape narrative on history you really don't need the character aspect. The facts are he's beaten Brock twice and never backed down from him. Use that if you want to build Seth up because no matter face or heel that still works and it fits his feud with Drew but WWE does things ass backwards
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 5, 2020 11:43:43 GMT -5
Plus could easily just recap Mania 35 and SummerSlam in that case. Well, yes and no If you want to make Seth look like this sneaky conniving person then yea the WM footage with him "stealing" the title is the best way to go but your basically retconning history If you're going to shape narrative on history you really don't need the character aspect. The facts are he's beaten Brock twice and never backed down from him. Use that if you want to build Seth up because no matter face or heel that still works and it fits his feud with Drew but WWE does things ass backwards IIRC, the video was part of a Money in the Bank retrospective, so it makes sense they focused on Seth’s cash-in.
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Post by fw91 on May 5, 2020 11:44:58 GMT -5
Don't think they are mad at him. I think they want to keep him out of mind, so people don't ask "where did he go?" Which is a really stupid way of looking at things.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 5, 2020 11:46:42 GMT -5
Well, yes and no If you want to make Seth look like this sneaky conniving person then yea the WM footage with him "stealing" the title is the best way to go but your basically retconning history If you're going to shape narrative on history you really don't need the character aspect. The facts are he's beaten Brock twice and never backed down from him. Use that if you want to build Seth up because no matter face or heel that still works and it fits his feud with Drew but WWE does things ass backwards IIRC, the video was part of a Money in the Bank retrospective, so it makes sense they focused on Seth’s cash-in. Yea, I mean with MITB being the show he's getting a title shot and both beating Brock it fits the narrative but WWE does so much shady shit that they really don't get the benefit of doubt
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Post by eJm on May 5, 2020 11:51:05 GMT -5
Don't think they are mad at him. I think they want to keep him out of mind, so people don't ask "where did he go?" Which is a really stupid way of looking at things. Like, even if it is just that...imagine if they did make people aware of what Roman was going through. Then they could use him to lead a campaign where people would wash their hands and take care of themselves since this virus affects people like him more than most. Would it be hypocritical considering everything else? Absolutely, but it might be a good way to get across all this to people in the target audience.
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Post by Fade on May 5, 2020 11:56:28 GMT -5
The poochie meme has become fully realized.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 5, 2020 12:16:27 GMT -5
Don't think they are mad at him. I think they want to keep him out of mind, so people don't ask "where did he go?" Which is a really stupid way of looking at things. Like, even if it is just that...imagine if they did make people aware of what Roman was going through. Then they could use him to lead a campaign where people would wash their hands and take care of themselves since this virus affects people like him more than most. Would it be hypocritical considering everything else? Absolutely, but it might be a good way to get across all this to people in the target audience. Considering how many kids look up to Roman, him being the face of a campaign encouraging them to wash their hands and take care would work so much.
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