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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 24, 2020 16:52:46 GMT -5
Even on a card with Cage, Luchasaurus, Brodie Lee, and Hager, the big guy who really impressed me the most on last night's show was Archer. Guy has so much presence, not just his wrestling but his whole persona with the trash talking at ringside. Really came off like a brutal bastard who likes to hurt people, honestly reminded me of '96 heel Austin.
Pairing him with Jake is a stroke of genius, he's learning from the best. Whenever they get around to an Archer vs Mox feud, it's going to be amazing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 24, 2020 17:11:55 GMT -5
He is on the run of his career. He doesn't even feel like the same wrestler he used to be he's just found IT, and AEW is absolutely gonna capitalize on it while Archer is still in his prime.
So glad a dude who has gone through so much booking hell has finally found it. He's a great PSA to wrestlers to never give up because you never know when your break is gonna happen or when you're gonna find something that sticks and the world pays attention.
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Post by toodarkmark on May 24, 2020 17:13:40 GMT -5
I think Moxley really enjoyed wrestling Archer and was instrumental in helping bring him in. I think once Mox moves past Cage, and Archer gets his heat back from the pin, a Mox-Archer violent feud is going to happen. Maybe even towards when crowds come back?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 17:31:21 GMT -5
He was a badass, but apparently Cody can beat him clean even though he's way smaller and weaker.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 17:49:41 GMT -5
Man.. I just don't see it at all. And his song suuuuucks. Fight me. Different strokes and all that. Glad folks are digging him.
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Post by The Ichi on May 24, 2020 17:59:54 GMT -5
There's definitely a quality over quantity thing when it comes to hosses in AEW.
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Post by Johawn on May 24, 2020 18:04:11 GMT -5
He was a badass, but apparently Cody can beat him clean even though he's way smaller and weaker. Yeah man, I agree completely, Great Khali SHOULD still be World Heavyweight Champion
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 18:09:53 GMT -5
He was a badass, but apparently Cody can beat him clean even though he's way smaller and weaker. Yeah man, I agree completely, Great Khali SHOULD still be World Heavyweight Champion He should've won it by ending Diesel's 10 year reign.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 18:16:08 GMT -5
He was a badass, but apparently Cody can beat him clean even though he's way smaller and weaker. Yeah man, I agree completely, Great Khali SHOULD still be World Heavyweight Champion There's a huge difference. The Great Khali was a talentless hack who only had a job because he was big and Vince wanted someone of his nationality. Lance Archer is a talented big man that was being built as a monster. You guys have to remember, not everyone who watches AEW watches NJPW so to them he hadn't had a dominant streak. This was his first big AEW match, and he lost clean to a smaller guy. Size doesn't always matter, but it does when you are in the process of building a monster up.
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Post by optikk on May 24, 2020 18:19:57 GMT -5
He was a badass, but apparently Cody can beat him clean even though he's way smaller and weaker. have you ever heard of the tale about Jack the Giant slayer? We aren’t watching a combat sport. Kayfabe is dead. Enjoy the product from an entertainment perspective and not a sporting perspective.
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Post by Fundertaker on May 24, 2020 18:19:58 GMT -5
Yeah man, I agree completely, Great Khali SHOULD still be World Heavyweight Champion There's a huge difference. The Great Khali was a talentless hack who only had a job because he was big and Vince wanted someone of his nationality. Lance Archer is a talented big man that was being built as a monster. You guys have to remember, not everyone who watches AEW watches NJPW so to them he hadn't had a dominant streak. This was his first big AEW match, and he lost clean to a smaller guy. Size doesn't always matter, but it does when you are in the process of building a monster up. On the other hand it took Cody: - Cheating from Arn Anderson - Distraction from Mike Tyson - The expulsion of Jake Roberts - Several Cross Rhodes To put down a Lance Archer that clearly was more interested in hurting Cody than outright win the match.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on May 24, 2020 18:27:27 GMT -5
Yeah man, I agree completely, Great Khali SHOULD still be World Heavyweight Champion He should've won it by ending Diesel's 10 year reign. Nah, it would have been Lesnar's whenever the hell he wanted it
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 24, 2020 18:27:59 GMT -5
I don't know what he's been up to since I last saw him and he was kinda garbage - I swear when I saw him in TNA he was like a poor man's Test. Think about the implications of that.
But now he's a certified killing machine. I've genuinely never seen anybody quite like him. He's legitimately scary, his stare is intense even through the TV screen. He looks like he's actually trying to hurt people. I couldn't even give you anything quantifiable - outside of him murdering random staff members on his way to the ring - that he does that makes it feel so different to stuff I've seen before, but it is.
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Post by chrom on May 24, 2020 18:28:26 GMT -5
There's a huge difference. The Great Khali was a talentless hack who only had a job because he was big and Vince wanted someone of his nationality. Lance Archer is a talented big man that was being built as a monster. You guys have to remember, not everyone who watches AEW watches NJPW so to them he hadn't had a dominant streak. This was his first big AEW match, and he lost clean to a smaller guy. Size doesn't always matter, but it does when you are in the process of building a monster up. On the other hand it took Cody: - Cheating from Arn Anderson - Distraction from Mike Tyson - The expulsion of Jake Roberts - Several Cross Rhodes To put down a Lance Archer that clearly was more interested in hurting Cody than outright win the match. Correct a mundo, Cody hit him with everything and did moves from Dustin's, Arn's and Sting's arsenal to finally put him down.
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Post by Celgress on May 24, 2020 18:29:49 GMT -5
He was a badass, but apparently Cody can beat him clean even though he's way smaller and weaker. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Cody beating him clean (such as it was) in their first encounter either. Alas, what are you going to do? I loved his booking up to that point (the actual pin). Hopefully his loss to Cody won't take too much zing off his fastball. *crosses fingers*
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Post by warden on May 24, 2020 18:34:40 GMT -5
He's fresh but at 43 years of age dude is not in his prime. Doesn't mean he can't be pushed but probably not going to invest 10 years into this guy. 5 might be a better number but that remains to be seen
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 19:26:18 GMT -5
He was a badass, but apparently Cody can beat him clean even though he's way smaller and weaker. have you ever heard of the tale about Jack the Giant slayer? We aren’t watching a combat sport. Kayfabe is dead. Enjoy the product from an entertainment perspective and not a sporting perspective. I'll enjoy from whatever perspective I choose to, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 19:34:57 GMT -5
The guy really just does nothing for me at all. I'd probably be meh on him at worst if not for the push but with it he's just actively irritating to me.
He has a good look but I really see nothing else of interest about him at all.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 24, 2020 19:36:18 GMT -5
There's a time even five years ago where "One day you'll really care about even one half of the Killer Elite Squad" would have sounded like a weird, bad joke. But here we are.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 24, 2020 19:46:29 GMT -5
I don't know what he's been up to since I last saw him and he was kinda garbage - I swear when I saw him in TNA he was like a poor man's Test. Think about the implications of that. But now he's a certified killing machine. I've genuinely never seen anybody quite like him. He's legitimately scary, his stare is intense even through the TV screen. He looks like he's actually trying to hurt people. I couldn't even give you anything quantifiable - outside of him murdering random staff members on his way to the ring - that he does that makes it feel so different to stuff I've seen before, but it is. The look is a great start. In TNA, he was the dude with a tramp stamp, generic pants, long hair and shitty stubble beard that made him look like a Test cosplay, and he was a young kid who hadn't really found himself. In the years after his WWE and TNA runs, he gets some professionally done tattoos, including a badass graveyard to coverup his shitty tramp stamp, dyes his hair blood red and experiments with hair styles until he finds the one, finished growing out his beard, giving him the money look. Then he took the same energy he discovered around the time he was pretending to shoot people with a Guitar Hero controller, and applied it to being a 7 foot monster who took out that energy on NJPW's Young Lions, and now you have the finished product.
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