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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 9, 2020 21:26:45 GMT -5
Eh. I don't find anything particularly offensive here as long as it wasn't forced upon them. The idea of the Diva Search was to find these "sexy hot bikini models"... They knew what they were gonna be marketed as. Now the Marketing of female wrestlers is a lot different. They're seen as equals to the men. Back then, the women in the company were (like it or not) employed for eye candy. Its just a different direction. No different to movies hiring actresses because they are good looking. Even if you're hiring someone to look pretty, "Where's your favorite place to have sex?" is not okay. Being hired because you're attractive doesn't make this not sexual harassment, and these people don't really have any baseline guarantee of comfort and consent when they're in this hoping for a job and some goon with his hand flailing around in his pocket is saying they have to tell him if they f*** with the lights on for a wrestling website if they want to participate in this competition for a contract. I don't think anyone hired on the basis of 'You're a really hot fitness model what would you think about making six figures a year in pro wrestling and being on TV' is expecting to have their sex life dissected like that. You can be sexy without being exploited like this. It's skeezy as hell, but I get where the questions come from. The Dive Search loved putting the women in awkward situations, and asking awkward questions. This legit may have been finding out about their personal life to see who would make for interesting television. No matter how hot she is, the girl who's only slept with her high school sweetheart, and only did it missionary in the dark probably isn't going to make for very interesting reality TV in what's a very sexualized competition. That's not to say there weren't ulterior motives to the questionnaire, but I get where it was coming from. Probably saw similar questions when you applied for Real World or Bachelor as well Now, if we wanna attack the Diva's Search as a whole that's a different ballgame. That shit was awful, awful television and just down right gross at times. Even as an 18 year old straight male when the first one occurred, I absolutely hated that shit. I had the internet for porn, I didn't need it on wrestling
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 21:35:08 GMT -5
Eh. I don't find anything particularly offensive here as long as it wasn't forced upon them. The idea of the Diva Search was to find these "sexy hot bikini models"... They knew what they were gonna be marketed as. Now the Marketing of female wrestlers is a lot different. They're seen as equals to the men. Back then, the women in the company were (like it or not) employed for eye candy. Its just a different direction. No different to movies hiring actresses because they are good looking. Even if you're hiring someone to look pretty, "Where's your favorite place to have sex?" is not okay. Being hired because you're attractive doesn't make this not sexual harassment, and these people don't really have any baseline guarantee of comfort and consent when they're in this hoping for a job and some goon with his hand flailing around in his pocket is saying they have to tell him if they f*** with the lights on for a wrestling website if they want to participate in this competition for a contract. I don't think anyone hired on the basis of 'You're a really hot fitness model what would you think about making six figures a year in pro wrestling and being on TV' is expecting to have their sex life dissected like that. You can be sexy without being exploited like this. I think it was more along the lines of "Look, we are gonna do this interview for the website where we ask a few sexual questions. You up for it?" Back then, magazines like Playboy and Maxim were doing this regularly.
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Post by Kyle Butler on Jun 9, 2020 21:45:56 GMT -5
“Hey, Maryse. Great to meet you. God, your chest looks nice. Not as nice as Vince’s though. When he gets it all oiled up and makes his pecs dance...hey, you think you could do that?”
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 9, 2020 21:46:53 GMT -5
Even if you're hiring someone to look pretty, "Where's your favorite place to have sex?" is not okay. Being hired because you're attractive doesn't make this not sexual harassment, and these people don't really have any baseline guarantee of comfort and consent when they're in this hoping for a job and some goon with his hand flailing around in his pocket is saying they have to tell him if they f*** with the lights on for a wrestling website if they want to participate in this competition for a contract. I don't think anyone hired on the basis of 'You're a really hot fitness model what would you think about making six figures a year in pro wrestling and being on TV' is expecting to have their sex life dissected like that. You can be sexy without being exploited like this. I think it was more along the lines of "Look, we are gonna do this interview for the website where we ask a few sexual questions. You up for it?" Back then, magazines like Playboy and Maxim were doing this regularly. Sure but people signing on for Playboy know they're doing stuff with a porno mag and likely are getting full-on naked in the course of that gig. I think by the time this was asked, even if it was really asked and not dropped on these women, they had agreed on to a lot of other things with little connection to tis. They were deep enough into contracts and opportunities that there's no way this couldn't be tainted by some degree of coercive sense that they had to go along with these questions. They didn't sign up to do a Playboy interview, they signed on for a trashy contest to get a TV contract, but will saying no these questions suddenly cause them issues in management's eyes on this competition? It's not really right or clean.
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Post by Perd on Jun 9, 2020 22:00:55 GMT -5
These are the questions they should ask Oliver Luck if the suit goes to trial.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 9, 2020 22:02:00 GMT -5
One important point I think might have some people confused: these aren't audition questions. These were published on WWE.com featuring the chosen contestants after the process had been finished. A Google search pulls up some intentionaly-bocked WWE.com links, but this one is still up and shows at the top where it says "WWE.com has caught up with all eight Diva Search Contestants and asked them 20 questions." These weren't screening questions, this was a website feature for the already-picked women meant to hype people up the week before the contest officially started. EDIT: This one is particularly f***ing gross WWE.com: If you could, what would you change about your body? J.T. Tinney: I'd make my butt bigger.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 9, 2020 22:03:43 GMT -5
I think it was more along the lines of "Look, we are gonna do this interview for the website where we ask a few sexual questions. You up for it?" Back then, magazines like Playboy and Maxim were doing this regularly. Sure but people signing on for Playboy know they're doing stuff with a porno mag and likely are getting full-on naked in the course of that gig. I think by the time this was asked, even if it was really asked and not dropped on these women, they had agreed on to a lot of other things with little connection to tis. They were deep enough into contracts and opportunities that there's no way this couldn't be tainted by some degree of coercive sense that they had to go along with these questions. They didn't sign up to do a Playboy interview, they signed on for a trashy contest to get a TV contract, but will saying no these questions suddenly cause them issues in management's eyes on this competition? It's not really right or clean. I assumed this were part of the audition process, but if these came behind closed doors after they were already part of the contest proper then I retract my entire previous statement.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 9, 2020 22:05:23 GMT -5
Sure but people signing on for Playboy know they're doing stuff with a porno mag and likely are getting full-on naked in the course of that gig. I think by the time this was asked, even if it was really asked and not dropped on these women, they had agreed on to a lot of other things with little connection to tis. They were deep enough into contracts and opportunities that there's no way this couldn't be tainted by some degree of coercive sense that they had to go along with these questions. They didn't sign up to do a Playboy interview, they signed on for a trashy contest to get a TV contract, but will saying no these questions suddenly cause them issues in management's eyes on this competition? It's not really right or clean. I assumed this were part of the audition process, but if these came behind closed doors after they were already part of the contest proper then I retract my entire previous statement. My post above clarifies that bit, which I realize the OP's titling left cloudy
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 9, 2020 22:05:36 GMT -5
Okay, so it wasn't behind closed doors it was for the website. That's not so bad, as if the girls were even partially familiar with the Diva Search contest they'd know to expect shit like this.
Still skeezy tho
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 9, 2020 22:08:15 GMT -5
One important point I think might have some people confused: these aren't audition questions. These were published on WWE.com featuring the chosen contestants after the process had been finished. A Google search pulls up some intentionaly-bocked WWE.com links, but this one is still up and shows at the top where it says "WWE.com has caught up with all eight Diva Search Contestants and asked them 20 questions." These weren't screening questions, this was a website feature for the already-picked women meant to hype people up the week before the contest officially started. EDIT: This one is particularly f***ing gross WWE.com: If you could, what would you change about your body? J.T. Tinney: I'd make my butt bigger. It comes across in poor taste, but that's a pretty common question. It exposes an insecurity, and makes the seemingly "perfect" girl seem more relatable EDIT: Would've been much better if they said "If you could, what would you change about yourself?"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 0:17:52 GMT -5
These are personality questions meant for the audience, these aren't job interview questions from the company. This is like asking "What's your favorite music group" at a beauty pageant so the audience can decide who they like better.
Edit: What these were used for behind the scenes, I have no idea about, or if they were used against the girls as to who got booked/shown in a good light I have no clue. But from the audience point of view, it was presented like a bikini contest "here comes Susie, the craziest thing she's ever done is..."
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jun 10, 2020 0:22:50 GMT -5
Lucky Steph wasn't around then, she'd never have allowed it. Oh. But... but... I thought she invented feminism and the Women's Revolution™!
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Post by Malibu Stacy on Jun 10, 2020 2:29:50 GMT -5
I'm just going to go ahead and imagine that ALL WWE employees were asked these questions during their job applications. WWE.com: Where is your favorite place to have sex? Glen Jacobs: Definitely not in a funeral parlor if that's what you're suggesting! WWE.com: Did anything funny happen during your first sexual experience? Glen Jacobs: Look, I swear she was alive when we started, okay!? Is this what lead to Drake Maverick being released, that after all this time, he still couldn't provide answers for certain interview questions?
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jun 10, 2020 3:00:15 GMT -5
"...that's a great answer, but when we said extremist, we meant someone from the ECW brand"
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Post by -Lithium- on Jun 10, 2020 3:30:00 GMT -5
“Hey, Maryse. Great to meet you. God, your chest looks nice. Not as nice as Vince’s though. When he gets it all oiled up and makes his pecs dance...hey, you think you could do that?” ...well, you know.
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 10, 2020 4:03:04 GMT -5
They were only a step or two away from the old 'pink or brown' question Max Power Magazine* used to drop on unsuspecting females in the late nineties. Cringe.
*UK reference
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 10, 2020 5:14:36 GMT -5
There is a big cavernous 'nope' hovering around the occasions where they're not answering about their first times. What a gross questionnaire.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 10, 2020 6:16:17 GMT -5
"Okay, Marry, F***, Kill: Alvin, Simon, Theodore?"
"...is this something that you think fans would-"
"Just answer the damn question!"
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 10, 2020 6:18:10 GMT -5
Makes one miss the more wholesome days of the Playboy shoots.
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Post by PKO on Jun 10, 2020 6:56:36 GMT -5
One important point I think might have some people confused: these aren't audition questions. These were published on WWE.com featuring the chosen contestants after the process had been finished. A Google search pulls up some intentionaly-bocked WWE.com links, but this one is still up and shows at the top where it says "WWE.com has caught up with all eight Diva Search Contestants and asked them 20 questions." These weren't screening questions, this was a website feature for the already-picked women meant to hype people up the week before the contest officially started. EDIT: This one is particularly f***ing gross WWE.com: If you could, what would you change about your body? J.T. Tinney: I'd make my butt bigger. Unfortunately they were asking them the same kinds of questions in the audition process as well. There’s a clip of Candice Michelle’s audition where they ask her about the strangest place she’s “made love”.
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