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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 16, 2020 19:13:02 GMT -5
If ECW was still around in 2012-13 does anyone think Brock takes a detour through ECW with Paul Heyman?
I think ECW still had juice left in 2010 that if in 2012-13, Brock would have amazing matches with Kozlov, Jackson, Christian, Shelton, etc...
Heyman could troll former ECW stars to return like Sandman, Whipwreck, Dreamer, Sabu and RVD to put over Brock.
I think he would've had the time of his life in ECW during that time.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Aug 16, 2020 19:16:27 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar has had one non-PPV match since he returned.
So, no.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 16, 2020 19:17:46 GMT -5
ECW at no point could afford to pay Brock what he would be demanding even in 2004.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 16, 2020 19:29:51 GMT -5
If they would pay his asking price I'd imagine Brock would work one of those shindies that runs shows in Walmart parking lots.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 16, 2020 19:31:44 GMT -5
I doubt it. Maybe if December to Dismember wasn't a total disaster, he could have appeared on an ECW PPV in some kind of exhibition where he obliterated a guy, but in general, he'd view it as beneath him probably in the same reason WWE would not use a Brock appearance up on a Takeover, probably.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Aug 16, 2020 19:31:51 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Sam Punk on Aug 16, 2020 22:38:02 GMT -5
I think he would.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 23:27:11 GMT -5
WWE ECW? No way.
The original ECW? Maybe if it was still around and Heyman was running it.
They wouldn't be able to afford him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 23:34:47 GMT -5
Hell no, we needed all those Triple H and Big Show matches!
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Post by hassanchop on Aug 16, 2020 23:52:02 GMT -5
WWECW was a C show at best so no. As for the original:
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 17, 2020 1:32:44 GMT -5
If a six figure cheque cleared, Brock would work a match in a WalMart parking lot. He's not doing this for fans, for an sort of love of the sport, for any sort of legacy, he's doing it as he likes money. He wouldn't try in ECW, but he hardly tries on Raw so there'd be little difference.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 17, 2020 2:02:16 GMT -5
eh.... if they promised Brock an Easier schedule and still paid him the money?
I could see him going to WWE ECW...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 3:14:41 GMT -5
If a six figure cheque cleared, Brock would work a match in a WalMart parking lot. He's not doing this for fans, for an sort of love of the sport, for any sort of legacy, he's doing it as he likes money. He wouldn't try in ECW, but he hardly tries on Raw so there'd be little difference. I think Heyman said some years back that Brock does enjoy entertaining people (and of course the money), it's just all the other shit (especially the traveling) that he hates.
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Post by Shark on Aug 17, 2020 3:21:51 GMT -5
If Brock was coming back to work for WWE's ECW, as I assume the OP is postulating, there is not once chance in hell Vince is getting Brock again and NOT putting him on the A show, Raw. Even in all the time he's been back, he's appeared on Smackdown only a handful of times. Otherwise, he's been exclusive to Raw.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 17, 2020 3:57:52 GMT -5
If a six figure cheque cleared, Brock would work a match in a WalMart parking lot. He's not doing this for fans, for an sort of love of the sport, for any sort of legacy, he's doing it as he likes money. He wouldn't try in ECW, but he hardly tries on Raw so there'd be little difference. I think Heyman said some years back that Brock does enjoy entertaining people (and of course the money), it's just all the other shit (especially the traveling) that he hates. That doesn't explain how he's flat out refused to try in his matches, shooting down ideas from his opponents just to do Lesnar by the numbers. Of course Heyman as his business manager would pretend Brock cares, he's a lot harder sell when people know he doesn't care at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 6:05:40 GMT -5
I think Heyman said some years back that Brock does enjoy entertaining people (and of course the money), it's just all the other shit (especially the traveling) that he hates. That doesn't explain how he's flat out refused to try in his matches, shooting down ideas from his opponents just to do Lesnar by the numbers. Of course Heyman as his business manager would pretend Brock cares, he's a lot harder sell when people know he doesn't care at all. I wish I could find the interview again, but this was from a while ago. Either a year or so before his return or a year after.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 17, 2020 6:17:38 GMT -5
I think Heyman said some years back that Brock does enjoy entertaining people (and of course the money), it's just all the other shit (especially the traveling) that he hates. That doesn't explain how he's flat out refused to try in his matches, shooting down ideas from his opponents just to do Lesnar by the numbers. Of course Heyman as his business manager would pretend Brock cares, he's a lot harder sell when people know he doesn't care at all. I think Brock is trolling us. When Brock had his first run they tried to make him a shitball heel but his good to great matches combined with being a badass made fans start to cheer him. So how does he stay a heel now? By putting on sub par short matches of the same moves over and over. So the marks have nothing to enjoy and the smarks get infuriated knowing he can do better. There is also his age, injuries, and illness to add to that.
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Post by realist on Aug 17, 2020 6:38:58 GMT -5
That doesn't explain how he's flat out refused to try in his matches, shooting down ideas from his opponents just to do Lesnar by the numbers. Of course Heyman as his business manager would pretend Brock cares, he's a lot harder sell when people know he doesn't care at all. I think Brock is trolling us. When Brock had his first run they tried to make him a shitball heel but his good to great matches combined with being a badass made fans start to cheer him. So how does he stay a heel now? By putting on sub par short matches of the same moves over and over. So the marks have nothing to enjoy and the smarks get infuriated knowing he can do better. There is also his age, injuries, and illness to add to that. I think a lot of the Brock Lesnar criticisms come from that horrible Dean Ambrose match at Wrestlemania. I love Ambrose/Moxley, but I will always argue that Brock was right in that situation. He was in the process of negotiating his big UFC return fight. Why would he risk serious injury in a match that largely meant nothing? Ambrose wanted a match filled with thumbtacks, tables, ladders, barbed wire, chainsaws, and fire, while Lesnar chose to preserve his body for a larger payday. I can not fault him for that.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 17, 2020 7:04:34 GMT -5
I think Brock is trolling us. When Brock had his first run they tried to make him a shitball heel but his good to great matches combined with being a badass made fans start to cheer him. So how does he stay a heel now? By putting on sub par short matches of the same moves over and over. So the marks have nothing to enjoy and the smarks get infuriated knowing he can do better. There is also his age, injuries, and illness to add to that. I think a lot of the Brock Lesnar criticisms come from that horrible Dean Ambrose match at Wrestlemania. I love Ambrose/Moxley, but I will always argue that Brock was right in that situation. He was in the process of negotiating his big UFC return fight. Why would he risk serious injury in a match that largely meant nothing? Ambrose wanted a match filled with thumbtacks, tables, ladders, barbed wire, chainsaws, and fire, while Lesnar chose to preserve his body for a larger payday. I can not fault him for that. Brock was being paid millions of dollars a year by the WWE to do like four matches a year. That should have been his priority, not whatever meathead side hustle he was working out with UFC.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 17, 2020 7:42:43 GMT -5
He realised he'd get paid no matter what after he saw no repercussions after he made it clear in press conferences how he didn't give a rats behind whether or not his return to UFC impacted his WWE run then shot down all Dean Ambrose ideas to have a watchable match. It's not trolling, some grand plan to get heat, he knows he'll be paid the same no matter what, and that's all that matters.
I don't begrudge him doing it for the money, don't get me wrong, but that is what it is. Heyman can say whatever he likes about Brock, but if he told me the sky is blue I would still go outside and check because he's a legendarily selfserving bullpooper.
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