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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 4, 2020 18:34:35 GMT -5
So I just got through rewatching this. Has some good qualities: Good Hulk action for back in 2008, Ed Norton is a good Banner and looks like the Bruce from the page&in fact all the cast is good. But boy, you can tell a)they still weren't quite sure this MCU experiment was going to be a thing and were this tentative with it, which led to b)It's almost completely divorced from the rest of the MCU. Outside of the 90 second Stark cameo at the end&then bringing back Tbolt Ross from Civil War onward (also how strange is it that they haven't had him interact with Bruce at all since?) it might as well be completely separate.
You could act like Ruffalo showing up in Avengers was the first official MCU appearance and it wouldn't matter at all; particularly since his and Norton's Bruces are so completely distinct from one another.
I still like the movie on its own merits, but nothing in it played out in the larger universe. Related, I'm still disappointed they have never followed up on the Tim Blake Nelson becoming the Leader tease. He'd have been fun as hell.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Sept 4, 2020 19:11:54 GMT -5
Cinema Rule #978- Tim Blake Nelson makes everything he's in better.
I won't go so far as to say this is some hidden masterpiece but I definitely bristle a little when people have it towards the bottom of their MCU rankings (it's firmly in the middle IMO). Norton and Tim Roth were great and they wisely skipped telling Hulk's origin again, just going over it in the opening credits and getting right to the story, a move they copied to great effect when Spider-Man showed up in the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 22:06:47 GMT -5
I liked it. I'd still say there are at least three Marvel movies worse than it, and only two Marvel movies I would even say are actually bad movies at all.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 4, 2020 22:35:54 GMT -5
There used to be a meme back in the day: "Incredible Hulk: just as good as Iron Man." And while I wouldn't go that far, I do remember enjoying it. Maybe I was on a high from the start of the MCU, though.
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Post by thechase on Sept 5, 2020 0:45:45 GMT -5
I love it, especially it's version of Betty. Hate that they basically jettisoned her for Natasha. You also get none of their relationship like it was in the comics anymore (not even in Immortal Hulk, which is just dysfunctional nonsense)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 9:21:31 GMT -5
I liked it a lot, but I now much prefer Ruffalo over Norton even though I didn't like the change at first.
I also don't like that we never saw Betty, Leader, or Abomination ever again. Like, they can't mop the floor with The Leader in the opening scene of an Avengers movie or something?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Sept 5, 2020 11:41:08 GMT -5
I find it funny that they basically resolved the Leader cliffhanger in an Avengers 1 tie-in comic with SHIELD arresting him.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Sept 5, 2020 14:21:23 GMT -5
This referenced the Bill Bixby TV show. That was a mark out moment when I heard the Lonely Man theme.
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Post by Fade on Sept 5, 2020 15:04:29 GMT -5
I liked it a lot when it came out. Not as much as IM but still immensely enjoyed it. It’s weird watching it now. It absolutely feels like it could be within any other franchise but the MCU.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 5, 2020 16:13:52 GMT -5
I love it, especially it's version of Betty. Hate that they basically jettisoned her for Natasha. You also get none of their relationship like it was in the comics anymore (not even in Immortal Hulk, which is just dysfunctional nonsense) Speaking of which, I was thinking on it lately and you know what I think would have been better? Instead of Helen Cho in Age of Ultron they have Monica Rappaccini instead and have her involved with Banner. Maybe have her go full villain in a later movie. |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus Sex on Sept 5, 2020 16:35:28 GMT -5
I like this one and the 2003 one. The Hulk's story is really complex and darker than most things in the MCU generally speaking, that the 2003 movie only slightly delved into while the 2008 one struck a decent balance. To me, the MCU version of the Hulk works for what he is where he has to be in part of an ensemble in action blockbuster movies so he naturally will be watered down to an extent and obviously people love the whole HULK SMASH stuff, me included, but I would have loved to have seen a solo Hulk story in the style of the Ultimate Destruction game, with a mix of action and psychological horror.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Sept 5, 2020 17:47:54 GMT -5
i still prefer HULK to this one
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 17:50:45 GMT -5
I was always pretty fond of it but it's been a long while since I've watched it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 5, 2020 18:41:18 GMT -5
This referenced the Bill Bixby TV show. That was a mark out moment when I heard the Lonely Man theme. Bill Bixby is actually in the movie too when Norton is watching TV he stops on a TV show starring him  There are little nods to this movie here and there... the big one I can think of off the top of my head in Iron Man 2... Tony is working at his desk with like a bunch of screens... one of the screens is the News Report from the Culver University fight. Agents of Shield which isn't really canon anymore mentioned Abomination was in one of their cells somewhere... |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Sept 6, 2020 0:35:43 GMT -5
I was trying to find this to watch the other night since my wife and I were doing a MCU run through for the hell of it. It’s the only one she hasn’t seen. I didn’t feel like paying $3.99 to rent it.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Sept 6, 2020 0:39:45 GMT -5
This referenced the Bill Bixby TV show. That was a mark out moment when I heard the Lonely Man theme. Bill Bixby is actually in the movie too when Norton is watching TV he stops on a TV show starring him There are little nods to this movie here and there... the big one I can think of off the top of my head in Iron Man 2... Tony is working at his desk with like a bunch of screens... one of the screens is the News Report from the Culver University fight. Agents of Shield which isn't really canon anymore mentioned Abomination was in one of their cells somewhere... To be fair, it was very much canon when that episode aired. In an even funnier twist, the change to the timeline that started us on the course towards AoS probably ending in a separate timeline involved longtime Hulk foe and Thunderbolt Ross ally, Glenn Talbot. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Sept 6, 2020 6:06:41 GMT -5
Did they ever confirm that Martin Starr's quick cameo in this movie is the same character he plays in the Spidey movies? It would make sense; he'd be finishing up his master's in Hulk, then a teacher by the time of Spidey.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 6, 2020 7:30:07 GMT -5
Did they ever confirm that Martin Starr's quick cameo in this movie is the same character he plays in the Spidey movies? It would make sense; he'd be finishing up his master's in Hulk, then a teacher by the time of Spidey. I believe they did, albeit in an "Oh yeah, that kid from Iron Man 2 was Peter Parker the whole time." kind of way. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 6, 2020 7:41:54 GMT -5
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