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Post by eJm on Feb 1, 2021 16:05:08 GMT -5
It's funny, everyone saw how completely Cena would go all-out for WWE at every possible opportunity and assumed he'd just keep doing that forever, when instead first chance he got he went, "Whew, I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore!" Honestly, with how the WWE started treating him after he first started going semi-part time I really don't blame him. I’ve said this so much but holy shit, the treatment of Cena for the past 3 years or so has just been the most muddling of things, to put it lightly. When you have someone like Cena say to a TMZ reporter he was contemplating WWE retirement, like...that was John Cena saying that.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 1, 2021 17:36:36 GMT -5
It's funny, everyone saw how completely Cena would go all-out for WWE at every possible opportunity and assumed he'd just keep doing that forever, when instead first chance he got he went, "Whew, I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore!" Imean he is still years younger the sell by date of Taker and Goldberg so we can still see He also worked way harder than either of them for most of that time, and for a lot longer than Goldberg.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 1, 2021 17:39:06 GMT -5
I'm hoping they do Orton vs. Fiend in a Funhouse match and Orton somehow saves Cena from the void of the Funhouse. Like full on anime protagonist and former antagonist battle the new evil type thing
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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 1, 2021 18:30:20 GMT -5
Math, huh? What are his chances, professor Scott Steiner?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 1, 2021 20:55:37 GMT -5
If Hollywood says no, the answer is no. Nobody is going to f*** around after Dwayne got injured at Wrestlemania and ended up delaying Hercules by months.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 1, 2021 21:04:20 GMT -5
Yeah, he is on a diff type of time right now compared to before
Unless his schedule is free for a month he can try but he did that last year and this won't be an every year kind of thing. Could they send someone over and do a cinematic match? Sure. BUT even that takes time. Taker said it took them like 2 weeks to film that match and while the process has most likely been perfected since last year, that's still time Cena can't really spare
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 1, 2021 21:34:24 GMT -5
He might be swerving but there's no reason for him to go, especially with no crowd. Why risk injury when his career is doing so well? On a side note, I always thought he'd be one of those sad old guys I pity for not being able to retire but he's managed to move on before he embarrassed himself like Taker or Goldberg. It's funny, everyone saw how completely Cena would go all-out for WWE at every possible opportunity and assumed he'd just keep doing that forever, when instead first chance he got he went, "Whew, I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore!" Honestly took way longer than he'd have probably liked. Had he gotten the kind of roles he's getting now after he'd made The Marine, he'd have been gone back then and rightfully so.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Feb 1, 2021 23:33:39 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if he returns for matches down the line when there are crowds, but the Funhouse match seemed to be a pretty definitive write-off for him for the time being.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 2, 2021 8:40:49 GMT -5
Yeah, he is on a diff type of time right now compared to before Unless his schedule is free for a month he can try but he did that last year and this won't be an every year kind of thing. Could they send someone over and do a cinematic match? Sure. BUT even that takes time. Taker said it took them like 2 weeks to film that match and while the process has most likely been perfected since last year, that's still time Cena can't really spare It took like 8 hours to film the Boneyard match.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Feb 2, 2021 8:57:02 GMT -5
He might be swerving but there's no reason for him to go, especially with no crowd. Why risk injury when his career is doing so well? On a side note, I always thought he'd be one of those sad old guys I pity for not being able to retire but he's managed to move on before he embarrassed himself like Taker or Goldberg. Actually according to Sports Illustrated there ARE going to be fans at Wrestlemania. link
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 2, 2021 10:11:53 GMT -5
Honestly, with how the WWE started treating him after he first started going semi-part time I really don't blame him. I’ve said this so much but holy shit, the treatment of Cena for the past 3 years or so has just been the most muddling of things, to put it lightly. When you have someone like Cena say to a TMZ reporter he was contemplating WWE retirement, like...that was John Cena saying that. It's kinda f***ed up because Cena basically put them in the position they're in now. He just made the cardinal sin of trying outside projects.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2021 10:16:31 GMT -5
You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at me appearing at Wrestlemania and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another wrestler you got a fifty/fifty chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25 percent at best at beat me! And then you add Wrestlemania to the mix? You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. See, the main event at Wrestlemania, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But I! I got a 66 and two thirds chance of turning up, cuz Kurt Angle KNOOOWS he can't see me, and he's not even gonna try. So, with a Wrestlemania appearance, you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance (if we was to go one on one) and you got an eight and a third chance of me being at Wrestlemania. But then you take my 75 perchance-chance of winnin' (if we was to go one on one), and then add 66 and two thirds…percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of appearing at Wrestlemania! Señor Joe? The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Wrestlemania! This post really needs 100 Likes.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 2, 2021 15:04:04 GMT -5
I’ve said this so much but holy shit, the treatment of Cena for the past 3 years or so has just been the most muddling of things, to put it lightly. When you have someone like Cena say to a TMZ reporter he was contemplating WWE retirement, like...that was John Cena saying that. It's kinda f***ed up because Cena basically put them in the position they're in now. He just made the cardinal sin of trying outside projects. He most definitely did, I'm amazed it happened by him leaving rather than just retiring, though. But the way they started booking him once he went part time was ludicrous. 'He's become slightly disloyal, let's destroy him'
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 2, 2021 15:07:16 GMT -5
It's kinda f***ed up because Cena basically put them in the position they're in now. He just made the cardinal sin of trying outside projects. He most definitely did, I'm amazed it happened by him leaving rather than just retiring, though. But the way they started booking him once he went part time was ludicrous. 'He's become slightly disloyal, let's destroy him' Honestly I wonder why they never treated the Rock this way. He won the damn wwe title when he came back. Maybe they will treat Cena differently if he disappears for a while
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Post by eJm on Feb 2, 2021 15:10:30 GMT -5
He most definitely did, I'm amazed it happened by him leaving rather than just retiring, though. But the way they started booking him once he went part time was ludicrous. 'He's become slightly disloyal, let's destroy him' Honestly I wonder why they never treated the Rock this way. He won the damn wwe title when he came back. Maybe they will treat Cena differently if he disappears for a while They kind of did with not renewing his contract and basically doing really sporadic appearances that weren’t exactly globe shaking circumstances. Like, the fact is they went to him to guest host, he didn’t go to them. And that was because he was one of the biggest stars in the world. Cena, on the other hand, was already under contract regardless and was a dude willing to do anything 99% of the time so what was he going to do? Not come back as much because of other projects? Wait...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 15:46:15 GMT -5
Hell, WWE tried to get Austin to come back for his first match in years so he could lose to Jonathan Coachman. They do not give a shit what you did for them if it didn't happen lately.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 2, 2021 15:50:34 GMT -5
It's kinda f***ed up because Cena basically put them in the position they're in now. He just made the cardinal sin of trying outside projects. He most definitely did, I'm amazed it happened by him leaving rather than just retiring, though. But the way they started booking him once he went part time was ludicrous. 'He's become slightly disloyal, let's destroy him' That Roman vs. Cena feud did nobody no favors and highlighted both weaknesses at a -Level PPV they tried hype as Wrestlemania level.
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Post by eJm on Feb 2, 2021 15:54:13 GMT -5
He most definitely did, I'm amazed it happened by him leaving rather than just retiring, though. But the way they started booking him once he went part time was ludicrous. 'He's become slightly disloyal, let's destroy him' That Roman vs. Cena feud did nobody no favors and highlighted both weaknesses at a -Level PPV they tried hype as Wrestlemania level. I'm still astounded to this day by that build because, like, it was the easiest WrestleMania match they had and not only did it not mean much when Cena was treated like a jobber to the stars for the previous few months, it exposed that their top star had zero improv skills and the only things he could brag about were ratings and crowd attendances which were not only untrue but outside of people who have actual stock in the company, and I can't stress this enough, nobody could give a solid f*** about that.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 2, 2021 16:42:03 GMT -5
That Roman vs. Cena feud did nobody no favors and highlighted both weaknesses at a -Level PPV they tried hype as Wrestlemania level. I'm still astounded to this day by that build because, like, it was the easiest WrestleMania match they had and not only did it not mean much when Cena was treated like a jobber to the stars for the previous few months, it exposed that their top star had zero improv skills and the only things he could brag about were ratings and crowd attendances which were not only untrue but outside of people who have actual stock in the company, and I can't stress this enough, nobody could give a solid f*** about that. Yeah... that's the thing... not only was Roman talking about stuff that was easily proven to be demonstrably false... it's stuff that why the hell would anyone give a shit. In Kayfabe, it doesn't really f***ing matter... and out of kayfabe... unless you have stock in the company it really doesn't affect you.
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 2, 2021 16:48:20 GMT -5
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