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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 2, 2021 16:50:17 GMT -5
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 2, 2021 16:54:43 GMT -5
That Roman vs. Cena feud did nobody no favors and highlighted both weaknesses at a -Level PPV they tried hype as Wrestlemania level. I'm still astounded to this day by that build because, like, it was the easiest WrestleMania match they had and not only did it not mean much when Cena was treated like a jobber to the stars for the previous few months, it exposed that their top star had zero improv skills and the only things he could brag about were ratings and crowd attendances which were not only untrue but outside of people who have actual stock in the company, and I can't stress this enough, nobody could give a solid f*** about that. If there's anyone who's master of "Building Up The Promotion/Territory" promo, it's Flair. Like, I know WWE is about the BRAND but how can make people want to come/watch when you make the Stars who drive the brand look like goobers?
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Post by eJm on Feb 2, 2021 16:55:05 GMT -5
I'm still astounded to this day by that build because, like, it was the easiest WrestleMania match they had and not only did it not mean much when Cena was treated like a jobber to the stars for the previous few months, it exposed that their top star had zero improv skills and the only things he could brag about were ratings and crowd attendances which were not only untrue but outside of people who have actual stock in the company, and I can't stress this enough, nobody could give a solid f*** about that. Yeah... that's the thing... not only was Roman talking about stuff that was easily proven to be demonstrably false... it's stuff that why the hell would anyone give a shit. In Kayfabe, it doesn't really f***ing matter... and out of kayfabe... unless you have stock in the company it really doesn't affect you. It was bizarre because, well, Roman vs. Cena is one of the easiest builds you could do. Cena was the star of his era, Roman is the new star of his, Roman's a multiple time champion like Cena is, Cena's in his twilight but not willing to let people pass him by without a fight. So easy. Yet instead, we're treated to Roman's Shareholders Meeting speech without Vince's stupid answers to questions. It's not even about Cena winning, it's about the fact they put him on this pedestal and he was still the biggest star they had and not treating him like it. Like, could you see Rock, Hogan, Austin or HHH doing a 3 minute squash at WrestleMania where the build was "I can't get on the WrestleMania card so I'm challenging The Undertaker but he won't answer until the night itself"? No because they're not idiots. Hell, could you imagine a scenario where any of those guys opened up a special episode of Raw and did nothing of note afterwards? Absolutely f***ing not.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 2, 2021 17:14:03 GMT -5
and the original Cena has nothing to do at mania interview happened right before Braun complained he wasn't busy at mania either...
so like... maybe Braun could have walked out and challenged Cena?
hell literally anyone on the roster should have been fighting to get a match with someone like Cena at Mania...
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 2, 2021 17:15:52 GMT -5
I've only seen last year's Mania once so don't remember how it finished. In kayfabe, where is Cena?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 2, 2021 17:20:35 GMT -5
I've only seen last year's Mania once so don't remember how it finished. In kayfabe, where is Cena? never really explained... he kinda vanished after the Funhouse. don't think he's been seen since... but I doubt it gets mentioned when he comes back.
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Post by eJm on Feb 2, 2021 17:21:27 GMT -5
and the original Cena has nothing to do at mania interview happened right before Braun complained he wasn't busy at mania either... so like... maybe Braun could have walked out and challenged Cena? hell literally anyone on the roster should have been fighting to get a match with someone like Cena at Mania... We've had this discussion plenty of times but it can't be said enough how ridiculous it was in kayfabe that John Cena stood in the ring, said "FIGHT ME!" and nobody came out. Just...why wouldn't you? It's John Cena. His credentials alone should have someone want to try and beat him so they can brag they beat a 16 time world champion. I'm basically talking "everyone wants to beat the Undertaker and beat the streak" levels almost.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 2, 2021 17:51:07 GMT -5
and the original Cena has nothing to do at mania interview happened right before Braun complained he wasn't busy at mania either... so like... maybe Braun could have walked out and challenged Cena? hell literally anyone on the roster should have been fighting to get a match with someone like Cena at Mania... We've had this discussion plenty of times but it can't be said enough how ridiculous it was in kayfabe that John Cena stood in the ring, said "FIGHT ME!" and nobody came out. Just...why wouldn't you? It's John Cena. His credentials alone should have someone want to try and beat him so they can brag they beat a 16 time world champion. I'm basically talking "everyone wants to beat the Undertaker and beat the streak" levels almost. Yeah, the face of the company, 16 time champion... at mania. Win or Lose you likely end up in a better position not to mention the pay for being in a marquee mania match...
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