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Post by Glitch on May 6, 2021 6:58:13 GMT -5
Anybody doubting how over the Wolfpac was needs to only look at the massive sea of wolfpac shirts in the audience of those shows.
And DX was definitely not more over than the Wolfpac. DX was filler while Wolfpac was part of the main storyline that was driving wcw forward. wwf's ratings answer to the nwo will always be Austin versus McMahon.
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Post by Sephiroth on May 6, 2021 12:02:50 GMT -5
We all know Disco Inferno carried The Wolfpack
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 13:44:50 GMT -5
Anybody doubting how over the Wolfpac was needs to only look at the massive sea of wolfpac shirts in the audience of those shows. And DX was definitely not more over than the Wolfpac. DX was filler while Wolfpac was part of the main storyline that was driving wcw forward. wwf's ratings answer to the nwo will always be Austin versus McMahon. I guess it would differ from place to place but in my school from spring 98 onwards it was all about DX and Austin. Admitting that you were a WCW guy and preferred the NWO/Wolfpac and Goldberg would've been almost sacrilegious at that point which sounds insane because a year earlier it would have been the opposite. It was ridiculous the amount of people who were running around crotch chopping, telling people to suck it and giving middle fingers. In hindsight I guess I can see why a lot of parents weren't thrilled with the attitude era.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 13:59:23 GMT -5
The Wolfpac made the NWO cool to me. The black and white was a bunch of WWF has beens from the 80's that me and my ECW loving friends made fun of. We even made fun of people walking around town like tough guys in NWO shirts.
But when the Wolfpac came out we sure bought those red and black NWO shirts with the quickness.
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 6, 2021 15:17:38 GMT -5
The NWO Wolfpac is the wrestling equivalent of hair metal: you make fun of it now, but you and damn near everyone you knew f***ing loved it at the time.
At my school, the Wolfpac was second only to Austin as the biggest thing in wrestling (and the margin was razor thin). When they switched back to aligning with Hogan, it completely killed any and all interest in WCW. It went out of style like yo-yos.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on May 6, 2021 18:53:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I know in my high school DX was seen as an nWo ripoff. We liked DX, we ran around doing crotch chops and saying suck it, but we all knew which was the OG 'cool heels as faces' stable.
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Post by madness50 on May 10, 2021 0:33:32 GMT -5
The black and red should have expanded a bit after Savage and Sting went out with injuries. Just having Nash, Luger, and Konnan against like 10-12 NWO black and white guys was kinda dumb lol.
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Post by thehottag on May 10, 2021 2:41:30 GMT -5
Wolfpac was crazy hot in '98. I know WCW's downfall is often cited as beginning with the Sting Starrcade match or the rise of Austin, but even at the end of '98, WCW still was very popular & had a lot of strings to their bow. The Wolfpac's downfall was down to two things:
1) They should've shed the 'nWo' part of the name. I can understand them wanting to initially ride the popularity of the New World Order, but once those red nWo shirts were sold, they should've just gone by 'Wolfpac'. Revisionist history would have you believed the Wolfpac watered down the nWo, but if anything, the Wolfpac was held back by tyeing itself to a faction that had been badly watered down by this point.
2) The Nash heel turn. Even the Goldberg loss (in spite of how it happened) was redeemable, as there were many cheers when it happened. A face champion Nash vs a challenger Goldberg who is now on the warpath would've drawn really well. Putting Nash back as Hogan's underling & making Goldberg out as a fool on that January 4th show was just cataclysmically awful.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on May 10, 2021 13:24:59 GMT -5
The black and red should have expanded a bit after Savage and Sting went out with injuries. Just having Nash, Luger, and Konnan against like 10-12 NWO black and white guys was kinda dumb lol. haha, I mean Sting was taking on the nWo all by himself for months. But they could have added like a young guy, an Orton in Evolution type. I don't think there was anyone who really fit with them at that time, most of the Natural Born Thrillers were years away and not really good enough either. Maybe they could have raided ECW for someone.
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Post by CeilingFan on May 10, 2021 13:32:05 GMT -5
The black and red should have expanded a bit after Savage and Sting went out with injuries. Just having Nash, Luger, and Konnan against like 10-12 NWO black and white guys was kinda dumb lol. Booker T could've become a member.
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 10, 2021 14:47:52 GMT -5
I miss those days. You could wear your Wolfpac (or hell...still vintage nWo) shirt out anywhere and you’d find out quick who fellow fans were...giving you props on the shirt or throwing up the “Too Sweet” sign.
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Post by corndog on May 10, 2021 20:13:07 GMT -5
Wolfpac was crazy hot in '98. I know WCW's downfall is often cited as beginning with the Sting Starrcade match or the rise of Austin, but even at the end of '98, WCW still was very popular & had a lot of strings to their bow. The Wolfpac's downfall was down to two things: 1) They should've shed the 'nWo' part of the name. I can understand them wanting to initially ride the popularity of the New World Order, but once those red nWo shirts were sold, they should've just gone by 'Wolfpac'. Revisionist history would have you believed the Wolfpac watered down the nWo, but if anything, the Wolfpac was held back by tyeing itself to a faction that had been badly watered down by this point. 2) The Nash heel turn. Even the Goldberg loss (in spite of how it happened) was redeemable, as there were many cheers when it happened. A face champion Nash vs a challenger Goldberg who is now on the warpath would've drawn really well. Putting Nash back as Hogan's underling & making Goldberg out as a fool on that January 4th show was just cataclysmically awful. The Wolfpac was white hot and WCW was still in very good shape in '98, despite having some misteps. In fact they actually drew much better attendence and ratings in '98 than '97, the only difference was WWE was even more popular. The ending of the Wolfpac with the "Fingerpoke of Doom" was the real beginning of the end. Hogan vs Nash was a match that was highly anticipated and could have drawn very well, but that completely screwed everything up and the following months of WCW just kept making things even worse to a point of no return.
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 11, 2021 9:03:13 GMT -5
Wolfpac was crazy hot in '98. I know WCW's downfall is often cited as beginning with the Sting Starrcade match or the rise of Austin, but even at the end of '98, WCW still was very popular & had a lot of strings to their bow. The Wolfpac's downfall was down to two things: 1) They should've shed the 'nWo' part of the name. I can understand them wanting to initially ride the popularity of the New World Order, but once those red nWo shirts were sold, they should've just gone by 'Wolfpac'. Revisionist history would have you believed the Wolfpac watered down the nWo, but if anything, the Wolfpac was held back by tyeing itself to a faction that had been badly watered down by this point. 2) The Nash heel turn. Even the Goldberg loss (in spite of how it happened) was redeemable, as there were many cheers when it happened. A face champion Nash vs a challenger Goldberg who is now on the warpath would've drawn really well. Putting Nash back as Hogan's underling & making Goldberg out as a fool on that January 4th show was just cataclysmically awful. The Wolfpac was white hot and WCW was still in very good shape in '98, despite having some misteps. In fact they actually drew much better attendence and ratings in '98 than '97, the only difference was WWE was even more popular. The ending of the Wolfpac with the "Fingerpoke of Doom" was the real beginning of the end. Hogan vs Nash was a match that was highly anticipated and could have drawn very well, but that completely screwed everything up and the following months of WCW just kept making things even worse to a point of no return. What’s even worse is they could have had a good half year of hot angles if Hogan didn’t Hogan. Both Nash and Goldberg should have stayed face after Starrcade. Hall should have pulled the taser stunt on Hogan’s order leading Goldberg to believe Nash was responsible. It’s all part of Hogan’s plan to weaken Nash and Goldberg for his own means. You could have Hall vs Nash with Hall upset Nash didn’t appreciate his help and that he’s running with Sting, Luger and co over him. You can have a Hogan vs Goldberg match on PPV. You can have Goldberg vs the individual Wolfpac members on his way to get to Nash. Instead we got shit just to make Hogan the focal point since his ass just couldn’t go with the original plan and he had to beat the nWo horse to death.
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Post by sungod2020 on May 11, 2021 9:26:52 GMT -5
Anybody doubting how over the Wolfpac was needs to only look at the massive sea of wolfpac shirts in the audience of those shows. And DX was definitely not more over than the Wolfpac. DX was filler while Wolfpac was part of the main storyline that was driving wcw forward. wwf's ratings answer to the nwo will always be Austin versus McMahon. I guess it would differ from place to place but in my school from spring 98 onwards it was all about DX and Austin. Admitting that you were a WCW guy and preferred the NWO/Wolfpac and Goldberg would've been almost sacrilegious at that point which sounds insane because a year earlier it would have been the opposite. It was ridiculous the amount of people who were running around crotch chopping, telling people to suck it and giving middle fingers. In hindsight I guess I can see why a lot of parents weren't thrilled with the attitude era. In my school it was a toss-up. We've had your WWF fans with the Austin 3:16 and DX shirts and your WCW fans with the nWo and Wolfpac shirts, and I'm sure I saw someone wear a Goldberg one. It's been over 20 years, but it's forgotten how over Konnan was. I remember somebody in my class saying his catchphrase "I'm rowdy rowdy and bowty bowty." Buff Bagwell was also over as I remember one kid saying "he's buff and he's the stuff." Good times.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 12, 2021 16:42:32 GMT -5
I went to a Worldwide taping at Universal Studios right after Goldberg won the title. I was the only one wearing a black and white shirt on the tram over to the studio. They even made fun of me when the tram driver asked if there were any black and white fans.
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