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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 12:54:28 GMT -5
I still say they should’ve given the stalker angle to someone else. Was Vampiro available that time? I swear I remember reading as a kid at the time that the stalker was going to be HBK. Then again I got my wrestling news from Lords of Pain back then, so....
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Post by Fade on Jul 16, 2021 13:09:46 GMT -5
The Invasion seems as old as Wrestlemania in 1985, I can't believe it's only been 20 years and yet it seems like it was just yesterday. I mean, the Invasion is closer to WrestleMania I than it is to today, for what it's worth. How dare you
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 16, 2021 13:16:26 GMT -5
What's...amazing? Frustrating? Annoying? about it is that there was SO much gold within it, and even as they were screwing it up, you can see potential salvaging points in hindsight that they just didn't go with Turning Angle into a wrecking machine was great. Dude got massively over as a face, and then they turned him heel. I still wanna know who the f*** that Austin turning (again) was a good idea. Especially if you think and book ahead, Jericho being the one to turn and lead The Alliance en route to being the first Undisputed Champion would've made more sense, no? But it did give us Angle vs Austin, which was good. So that was one plus. On the other hand, it gave us the WHAT chant.
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Post by dgenerationmc on Jul 16, 2021 14:28:00 GMT -5
I still wanna know who the f*** that Austin turning (again) was a good idea. Especially if you think and book ahead, Jericho being the one to turn and lead The Alliance en route to being the first Undisputed Champion would've made more sense, no? But it did give us Angle vs Austin, which was good. So that was one plus. I would've gladly taken Jericho as The Alliance's leader, Rock getting revenge on Austin while on the same side and Angle chasing Booker for the WCW Title going into Unforgiven over Angle v Austin being the brightest part of The InVasion. But, that's just me.
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Post by dgenerationmc on Jul 16, 2021 14:29:41 GMT -5
I still say they should’ve given the stalker angle to someone else. Was Vampiro available that time? What about Raven? He switched over to The Alliance anyways and him getting "buried" by Taker would've been more acceptable than DDP, in my opinion.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 16, 2021 14:49:08 GMT -5
Contains my favourite JR line.
"I've said it before and I'll say it again...spinaroonie my ass!"
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 16, 2021 17:21:01 GMT -5
I still say they should’ve given the stalker angle to someone else. Was Vampiro available that time? What about Raven? He switched over to The Alliance anyways and him getting "buried" by Taker would've been more acceptable than DDP, in my opinion. The Raven character was often cowardly, especially post WCW. That feud would have been annoying but way less so if being done to a former world f***ing champion.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 16, 2021 18:20:59 GMT -5
Contains my favourite JR line. "I've said it before and I'll say it again...spinaroonie my ass!" "Booker T is an idiot... it's not the Rock Bottom, it's...MY ASS!"
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jul 17, 2021 11:55:50 GMT -5
It's actually really cool to hear from a WCW fan who decided to take a chance and see how it went because it doesn't feel like we get that perspective much. It's more weird considering how WCW was doing in the final days with genuinely trying to build talent up (Palumbo/O'Haire, Stasiak, Jindrak etc) and just how they were kind of just thrown into the whole thing without much of a rhyme or reason, which felt weirder because they were the ones to book Palumbo/O'Haire as prominent for the last Nitro show so you would have thought it'd have lead to more? And as Zane points out as well, those first few weeks were this weird thing where the crowds were invested by doing the basic things and then the company were trying to balance "These are the big threats of the summer" with "These are pieces of shit and they don't stand up against our own talent" and it's like...of course stuff wasn't going to work. It'd be like if right after the debut of the Nexus on Raw, they got taken out by the main eventers on Smackdown. You just eroded any believability that these guys were any sort of threat. Some of the WCW guys were never even introduced outside of group montages. Like, Mark Jindrak was just hovering around and would factor into multi-man matches, and then he just vanished. You were never given any reason to care about Palumbo and O'Haire, when they could have easily been established in any number of segments or video packages in lieu of a McMahon backstage segment. And it felt like once ECW and Stephanie were inserted into the storyline, all attempts at getting over the New Blood-era guys of WCW really went out the window, as all "Alliance" time became Stephanie and Paul Heyman rallying the troops or expressing fealty to Austin. A common excuse for the InVasion is that they didn't have access to Goldberg, Sting, Flair, et al, but this is the WWF coming off of their hottest year ever. They didn't bother to do the bare minimum to get these guys over as a tangible threat. But yeah, I was a WCW fan who felt beaten down after the abysmal quality of 1999 and the five reboots from the start of 2000 to March of 2001. I was ready for a consistent, well-produced version of WCW, even if it wouldn't feel the same, so long as it felt different from the core WWF product and featured a number of the wrestlers I loved like Booker T. Because the truth is, I watched the Attitude Era from a state of disconnected envy, wishing WCW would get its act together to look half as cool as the stuff McMahon and Russo were doing (and later, when Russo was with WCW, as consistent and logical as Kreski was writing). I was even eager for some of the rumored WWF guys to be moved over, as I thought Angle and Christian would be natural fits in a "new" WCW. Maybe I was just hungry for late-2000s TNA. But spring 2001 was all about eagerly awaiting "Shane McMahon's WCW", checking the news sites every day for updates, following the rumors of the late Saturday night show on TNN (WCW Hot Box would have changed the industry), and losing my mind when it all kicked off at King of the Ring. That's why ECW forming on the Atlanta Raw isn't a mark out moment for me like it is Zane and so many others. My heart palpably sank, because I knew then that it was all over and WCW wouldn't be getting its own show. And maybe that's for the best, but that was the moment I actually felt WCW die.
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