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Post by Cyno on Nov 10, 2021 13:43:15 GMT -5
WWE booking an ENTIRE women's tournament to go 20 minutes start to finish. The sparklers thing was bad but was one bad spot in amongst a lot of good. These things happen. Even Alexa and the doll is a story and sometimes stories don't work. The tournament was just straight-up deliberate disrespect. That's what tends to happen when you're propped up as none-too-subtle propaganda for an oppressive regime.
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Post by thehottag on Nov 10, 2021 17:27:23 GMT -5
Thing is, a lot of people pick the Gooker in the same vein as the 'Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic'. To me, the Gooker has to be something ridiculous, ludicrous, the kind of thing that makes your toes curl around non-fans.
Miz & Morrison were eaten by zombies(!!!) & then just, like, weren't. The Lilly/Bray stuff is close, but this absolutely takes the cake for me. Zombies are apparently real & canon in WWE, & they ate a bunch of wrestlers for your entertainment.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 22, 2021 22:25:00 GMT -5
Potential last-minute push with The Egg.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 22, 2021 22:47:14 GMT -5
The Egg feels like it wouldn't deserve it over some of the other things mentioned, but like, it would be perfect as an induction since it is such an echo of the namesake.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 23, 2021 2:01:24 GMT -5
The Egg would be an interesting "everything coming full circle" nomination, lol.
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Post by eJm on Nov 23, 2021 4:43:55 GMT -5
I think my problem with the Egg and Zombies stuff is that nothing really happened with them. Like, they came and went and there wasn't really anything to latch onto. I'll ride my bandwagon of the zombie stuff should have lead to wider things but didn't and the Egg was....like, what was it? You could at least have done a delusional Vince thing where he thinks it's a real egg but Rock gave it to him as a present because he's a producer and he can do that sort of thing. And then when The Rock comes back, he can cut a promo calling Vince an idiot because he thought the egg was real, just something fun.
Like, they might reflect the Gooker more but they're such nothing aspects, they're not really worthy of a win.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 23, 2021 5:11:54 GMT -5
The Egg should just get a nomination for the sake of it being The Gooker Award tbh. It's the closest spiritual successor we might ever see.
The Zombies angle was still bad.. not sure if it's still the worst WWE thing though because it was a standalone thing
I still think Orton/Bray/Alexa/Lily is my pick. For how long it went on... and especially for how inconsequential it all turned out to be for how LONG it was. Months and months just for the Mania conclusion to kill one of the first giant hype live crowds the world had seen back again almost instantly. Like it doesn't get more embarrassing than that.
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Post by agent817 on Nov 23, 2021 11:57:54 GMT -5
The Egg should just get a nomination for the sake of it being The Gooker Award tbh. It's the closest spiritual successor we might ever see. The Zombies angle was still bad.. not sure if it's still the worst WWE thing though because it was a standalone thing I still think Orton/Bray/Alexa/Lily is my pick. For how long it went on... and especially for how inconsequential it all turned out to be for how LONG it was. Months and months just for the Mania conclusion to kill one of the first giant hype live crowds the world had seen back again almost instantly. Like it doesn't get more embarrassing than that. Damn, you beat me to it! I was just going to mention this.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Nov 23, 2021 12:27:47 GMT -5
Thing is, a lot of people pick the Gooker in the same vein as the 'Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic'. To me, the Gooker has to be something ridiculous, ludicrous, the kind of thing that makes your toes curl around non-fans. Miz & Morrison were eaten by zombies(!!!) & then just, like, weren't. The Lilly/Bray stuff is close, but this absolutely takes the cake for me. Zombies are apparently real & canon in WWE, & they ate a bunch of wrestlers for your entertainment. it's not like wwe had a zombie mortician wrestle for them for what 28ish years? well in between his bouts of demon worshipping (zombrex worked?), asshole biker, heroic biker, zombie attack dog for teddy long, zombie cowboy. sorry but zombies have been cannon in wwf/e since 1990, they've just only ever really had two (and a half if you count the fake taker match.) on tv until the terrible army of the dead tie in match and no one can pretend otherwise.
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Post by J is Justice on Nov 24, 2021 9:57:51 GMT -5
I'm going with Nikki A.S.H. Gimmick makes no sense, and she had one of the worst women's championship reigns of all time. This one makes me legit angry because I love Nikki (I know the gimmick was her idea but the booking surely wasn't).
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Post by the2ndevil on Nov 24, 2021 11:23:13 GMT -5
What is should be if they are going by the original spirit of the site and award: Lily. It's such obvious Wrestlecrap; it's magic, it is out of touch, everyone involved in it looks worse afterwards, and it was a huge waste of time. What it will be will be WWE cutting a bunch of talent during pandemic. You nailed it. Should be: something silly they believe will make them a lot of money. Will be: behind-the-curtain business bs nobody outside of the company should worry about. This has been my issue with the Gooker Award for a long, long, time.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 24, 2021 11:35:59 GMT -5
I think my problem with the Egg and Zombies stuff is that nothing really happened with them. Like, they came and went and there wasn't really anything to latch onto. I'll ride my bandwagon of the zombie stuff should have lead to wider things but didn't and the Egg was....like, what was it? You could at least have done a delusional Vince thing where he thinks it's a real egg but Rock gave it to him as a present because he's a producer and he can do that sort of thing. And then when The Rock comes back, he can cut a promo calling Vince an idiot because he thought the egg was real, just something fun. Like, they might reflect the Gooker more but they're such nothing aspects, they're not really worthy of a win. I suppose you could portray it as being Gooker worthy because it feeds into the larger narrative that nothing that happens in WWE really matters week to week. "We had literal flesh-eating zombies devour two of our wrestlers, who acted terrified of the literal zombies. They then showed up next week like nothing happened. Watch our show!"
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Post by eJm on Nov 24, 2021 11:38:46 GMT -5
I think my problem with the Egg and Zombies stuff is that nothing really happened with them. Like, they came and went and there wasn't really anything to latch onto. I'll ride my bandwagon of the zombie stuff should have lead to wider things but didn't and the Egg was....like, what was it? You could at least have done a delusional Vince thing where he thinks it's a real egg but Rock gave it to him as a present because he's a producer and he can do that sort of thing. And then when The Rock comes back, he can cut a promo calling Vince an idiot because he thought the egg was real, just something fun. Like, they might reflect the Gooker more but they're such nothing aspects, they're not really worthy of a win. I suppose you could portray it as being Gooker worthy because it feeds into the larger narrative that nothing that happens in WWE really matters week to week. "We had literal flesh-eating zombies devour two of our wrestlers, who acted terrified of the literal zombies. They then showed up next week like nothing happened. Watch our show!" Oh, sure, you could go that route with it. I just don't know if I'd class that as Gooker worthy or just a "honorable" mention.
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Post by Totorob101 on Nov 24, 2021 11:44:29 GMT -5
Can a whole company win a gooker? WWE as a whole deserves it as its been a terrible year for the company and almost everything has sucked.
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Post by bob on Nov 24, 2021 12:24:42 GMT -5
I'm still leaning towards Lily/Alexa/Fiend/Orton or Cody/Ogogo with my vote
I can also see the zombies, the egg, Goldberg's kid and Nikky ASH being on the ballot
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Post by burdette25159 on Nov 24, 2021 13:57:28 GMT -5
Still going with the Bliss/Wyatt/Orton situationfor Gooker 2021, the egg debacle at Survivor Series/The Following night on raw may have caused the Chief to roll in her grave but that along with Nikki A.S.H. and the zombie thing could end up on the ballot
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 15:23:16 GMT -5
Thing is, a lot of people pick the Gooker in the same vein as the 'Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic'. To me, the Gooker has to be something ridiculous, ludicrous, the kind of thing that makes your toes curl around non-fans. Miz & Morrison were eaten by zombies(!!!) & then just, like, weren't. The Lilly/Bray stuff is close, but this absolutely takes the cake for me. Zombies are apparently real & canon in WWE, & they ate a bunch of wrestlers for your entertainment. it's not like wwe had a zombie mortician wrestle for them for what 28ish years? well in between his bouts of demon worshipping (zombrex worked?), asshole biker, heroic biker, zombie attack dog for teddy long, zombie cowboy. sorry but zombies have been cannon in wwf/e since 1990, they've just only ever really had two (and a half if you count the fake taker match.) on tv until the terrible army of the dead tie in match and no one can pretend otherwise. Yeah but you're clearly biased as a zombie yourself so I'm gonna take what you say with a grain of salt. Also not to be zombie-ist but it seems like Taker is a different type of zombie to the ones we saw during that match. Man is far better put together than those zombies. We have had voodoo in WWF/E in the past and we've also had a survivor series dedicated to an egg as well so it feels like a lot of the nominations are retreading old ground. I think my problem with the Egg and Zombies stuff is that nothing really happened with them. Like, they came and went and there wasn't really anything to latch onto. I'll ride my bandwagon of the zombie stuff should have lead to wider things but didn't and the Egg was....like, what was it? You could at least have done a delusional Vince thing where he thinks it's a real egg but Rock gave it to him as a present because he's a producer and he can do that sort of thing. And then when The Rock comes back, he can cut a promo calling Vince an idiot because he thought the egg was real, just something fun. Like, they might reflect the Gooker more but they're such nothing aspects, they're not really worthy of a win. I suppose you could portray it as being Gooker worthy because it feeds into the larger narrative that nothing that happens in WWE really matters week to week. "We had literal flesh-eating zombies devour two of our wrestlers, who acted terrified of the literal zombies. They then showed up next week like nothing happened. Watch our show!" Would Miz/Morrison returning as zombies for a few weeks make this more gooker worthy or less?
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Nov 24, 2021 15:29:10 GMT -5
it's not like wwe had a zombie mortician wrestle for them for what 28ish years? well in between his bouts of demon worshipping (zombrex worked?), asshole biker, heroic biker, zombie attack dog for teddy long, zombie cowboy. sorry but zombies have been cannon in wwf/e since 1990, they've just only ever really had two (and a half if you count the fake taker match.) on tv until the terrible army of the dead tie in match and no one can pretend otherwise. Yeah but you're clearly biased as a zombie yourself so I'm gonna take what you say with a grain of salt. Also not to be zombie-ist but it seems like Taker is a different type of zombie to the ones we saw during that match. Man is far better put together than those zombies. We have had voodoo in WWF/E in the past and we've also had a survivor series dedicated to an egg as well so it feels like a lot of the nominations are retreading old ground. it was part of the demon worshiping pact, the demon retroactively gave him a better build than the rest of us normal zombies, it pissed off a lot of hordes.
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Post by thehottag on Nov 24, 2021 19:30:48 GMT -5
it's not like wwe had a zombie mortician wrestle for them for what 28ish years? well in between his bouts of demon worshipping (zombrex worked?), asshole biker, heroic biker, zombie attack dog for teddy long, zombie cowboy. sorry but zombies have been cannon in wwf/e since 1990, they've just only ever really had two (and a half if you count the fake taker match.) on tv until the terrible army of the dead tie in match and no one can pretend otherwise. Undertaker wasn't portrayed as a real zombie though. Commentators would mention how he was using 'mind games' to psych out opponents. He was called by his real name on TV, & his wife got to come in & get introduced as his spouse. So I think the idea he was an actual zombie was quashed by the Fed themselves. The ECW zombie is interesting, because they could be a legit undead creature, or just a guy playing a role. We don't know, it was never explained or explored, so both are as equally valid. But the Miz & Morisson stuff? That's played straight, like Robocop back in WCW. And the fact they 'got better' in a hand-wave Monthy Pythonesque manner just makes it more ridiculous. Anyways, The Egg stuff is probably the closest thing we have to the actual Gobbeldy Gooker, what with it being at the Survivor Series & involving an egg.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 3, 2022 0:06:05 GMT -5
Okay, now that we're fresh in the year, I wonder when the poll will be up. Do you see that title-swapping debacle as a candidate for the Gooker Award? Considering what happened, that might be a bit much to include, but it was still one of the worst things to happen in 2021.
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