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Post by 06vwgti on Nov 12, 2021 20:15:09 GMT -5
Sloppy shop
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Nov 12, 2021 20:17:51 GMT -5
Gang, I'm admittedly not the most well-read on this subject, but I love how we're supposed to believe WWE graciously pays their employees' medical bills when they expect their "independent contractors" to find their own healthcare.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 12, 2021 20:30:21 GMT -5
Aah yes the bastion of credibility that is the WWE...
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Post by cjh on Nov 12, 2021 20:56:03 GMT -5
News to me that wwe offers health insurance (if there’s any truth to this) Lance Storm has said that when he wrestled for WWE, he was issued a card by the company to present if he had to go to the doctor or the hospital. The card was only to be used by him, and he was responsible for purchasing separate health insurance for his family.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 12, 2021 21:20:19 GMT -5
It is always possible ther was some kind of error in the process and he was told he had to pay.
But if I had to believe one side...yeh,I wouldnt believe WWE,their statement is very vague.
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Post by berlynwright on Nov 12, 2021 21:32:03 GMT -5
As usual, WWE opens their mouth when the best move of them would be to shut up and let it go. They very rarely respond to negative allegations made at them. I don't think they would have released such a strong statement if they don't have the evidence. They are entitled to defend themselves if they believe it's a wrong accusation, especially in such a sensitive issue of health Not saying Keith is lying or WWE is right 100%, but this could just be a simple misunderstanding of T&C like claims/refunds gone wrong.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 12, 2021 21:32:23 GMT -5
You KNOW this "response" is based on some weasel language in his contract where technically the majority of his medical expenses fell outside the scope they were promising to pay for.
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Post by welshpenguin on Nov 12, 2021 22:34:22 GMT -5
They don’t usually bother responding to negative talk & accusations by released talent so yeah I think there is something in it. Keith burning those bridges fast yikes.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 12, 2021 23:19:26 GMT -5
Gang, I'm admittedly not the most well-read on this subject, but I love how we're supposed to believe WWE graciously pays their employees' medical bills when they expect their "independent contractors" to find their own healthcare. That's how Jon Moxley got covered by WWE's health insurance program for awhile even when he was working for AEW. Renee was an employee of WWE, so she got the corporate health insurance program, which covers spouses and immediate family, as opposed to the "independent contractor" one. Though I dunno what their situation was once Renee left WWE.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Nov 12, 2021 23:40:51 GMT -5
Weird that they didn't do a statement denying Nia's account that they fired her during a mental health break with no communication.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Nov 12, 2021 23:41:26 GMT -5
Keith Lee doesn't gain anything by lying about it. This is what it comes down to for me. Why would anybody possibly lie about something that should be easily refutable?
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Post by Cyno on Nov 12, 2021 23:43:03 GMT -5
Also this plays into the whole "Keith Lee is difficult to work with" narrative WWE is spinning to hurt his chances at working for the competition once his 90 days is up. So I don't believe them for a goddamned second.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 12, 2021 23:57:31 GMT -5
Also this plays into the whole "Keith Lee is difficult to work with" narrative WWE is spinning to hurt his chances at working for the competition once his 90 days is up. So I don't believe them for a goddamned second. As if this would do anything to disuade AEW from signing him 🙄 This company...
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 12, 2021 23:58:38 GMT -5
From what I understand, WWE only pays for injuries and medical ailments which directly relate to in ring competition.
None of Keith Lee's medical ailments fit that criteria.
WWE is saying something TOTALLY different than what Keith Lee is talking about. They aren't saying something false, but it is VERY intentionally misleading.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Nov 13, 2021 3:37:34 GMT -5
Did Jackie Chiles write this?
Mr Lee's statement is erroneous, problematic and laborious
Who told you to put the balm on? I didnt tell you to put the balm on!
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Post by eJm on Nov 13, 2021 3:51:30 GMT -5
From what I understand, WWE's only pays for injuries and medical ailments which directly relate to in ring competition. None of Keith Lee's medical ailments fit that criteria. WWE is saying something TOTALLY different than what Keith Lee is talking about. They aren't saying something false, but it is VERY intentionally misleading. I mean, what I don’t get is, like, if you’re going to say something like this, put something in like “We’ve supported all our talent though the COVID-19 pandemic in all their needs, emotional or financial” jus to take away how vague the whole thing feels. Like, it’d be a lie and their protocols were shit for a long time but it’d be less of a nothing statement.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 13, 2021 5:15:49 GMT -5
News to me that wwe offers health insurance (if there’s any truth to this) There is none. Full time employees get insurance, but unless they're injured or have drug problems that may embarass the company, the talent are left to fend for themselves, Stephanie made that clear during her media tour defending their mishandling of covid. News to me that wwe offers health insurance (if there’s any truth to this) Lance Storm has said that when he wrestled for WWE, he was issued a card by the company to present if he had to go to the doctor or the hospital. The card was only to be used by him, and he was responsible for purchasing separate health insurance for his family. That policy changed in 2011, they now only cover injury and require talent to buy their own insurance to cover anything else.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 13, 2021 7:28:06 GMT -5
Also this plays into the whole "Keith Lee is difficult to work with" narrative WWE is spinning to hurt his chances at working for the competition once his 90 days is up. So I don't believe them for a goddamned second. I'm not saying Lee shouldn't respond if he's got proof WWE's lying/saying misleading stuff, but for him to then go and respond further to WWE would absolutely play further into their narrative by drawing out more public fight. Say the guy is difficult to work with, put out something half-true but misleading about his response, and then when he fights back, oh there you go you now have more people firmly believing he really was difficult in the first place. It's really, really basic stuff.
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Post by cjh on Nov 13, 2021 7:50:05 GMT -5
News to me that wwe offers health insurance (if there’s any truth to this) There is none. Full time employees get insurance, but unless they're injured or have drug problems that may embarass the company, the talent are left to fend for themselves, Stephanie made that clear during her media tour defending their mishandling of covid. Lance Storm has said that when he wrestled for WWE, he was issued a card by the company to present if he had to go to the doctor or the hospital. The card was only to be used by him, and he was responsible for purchasing separate health insurance for his family. That policy changed in 2011, they now only cover injury and require talent to buy their own insurance to cover anything else. The only thing that changed was that mandate that talent has to buy a health insurance plan for their families. That's been a requirement for a few years now. The WWE-issued card Storm carried could be used to pick up the costs for anything that may have kept him from wrestling, even if it was an illness (like MVP's heart condition during his first run). It just didn't cover family.
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Post by Ryushinku on Nov 13, 2021 7:55:53 GMT -5
Weird that they didn't do a statement denying Nia's account that they fired her during a mental health break with no communication. That kinda makes them responding directly to this more notable, to me.
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