petef3
Don Corleone
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Post by petef3 on Jan 24, 2022 18:26:23 GMT -5
Treating them as "freaked out straight dudes" as opposed to "gay men" in this instance seems like a distinction without a difference.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 24, 2022 18:37:09 GMT -5
Treating them as "freaked out straight dudes" as opposed to "gay men" in this instance seems like a distinction without a difference. It isn't, because it provides a context for where "this gay guy is being sexually domineering" wouldn't be a gay panic story. As for communicating this distinction, that's up to Effy and his opponent. Again, Effy clearly using it instrumentally is important, and the opponent reacting not to Effy's schtick per se, but rather the ways Effy's schtick sets them back in the match.
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clifford
King Koopa
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Post by clifford on Jan 24, 2022 18:41:10 GMT -5
This was a bit of a mess of a show. Nothing outright sucked, but I felt like this wasn't the homerun a lot of people hoped it would be. Don't know why ALL of Janela, Allie and Effie had to lose their matches. If you can't showcase the deathmatch aspect of the promotion due to New York, then maybe put the talent over a bit more?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 24, 2022 18:45:12 GMT -5
Flat show throughout, wish I hadn't bought it
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Post by eJm on Jan 24, 2022 19:02:36 GMT -5
On a slightly happier note, Mick Foley responded to Matt Cardona’s choice of attire.
Language warning. Yes, for a Mick Foley video.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jan 24, 2022 19:30:08 GMT -5
Alex Zayne would be killing it on NXT 2.0 (and I mean that as a compliment) Someone should have told Vince that. Nah, not that version. The Alex Zayne I saw last night, looking like a walking crayola crayon? Hell yeah. He'd fit right in.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2022 18:44:41 GMT -5
That ladder match was frightening to watch and not in a fun way
Joke of a main event. First time I paid to see the Briscoes
They milked the entrances THAT long and then ended the match that soon?
The wrong person winning nearly every important match?
Almost no standout matches?
I can only assume this was a production issue (there were many) ths crowd didn't even seem that loud
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Post by eJm on Jan 25, 2022 18:48:41 GMT -5
I can only assume this was a production issue (there were many) ths crowd didn't even seem that loud By all accounts, it was a production issue. Which, for what I hear about GCW shows, isn’t really a surprise.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2022 18:49:45 GMT -5
I can only assume this was a production issue (there were many) ths crowd didn't even seem that loud By all accounts, it was a production issue. Which, for what I hear about GCW shows, isn’t really a surprise. Given the many ECW allusions I wasn't sure if the legit VHS static at the start of the show was a stylistic choice
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Post by eJm on Jan 25, 2022 18:50:03 GMT -5
Also, a bit of a controversial opinion…I consider Cardona way more of a GCW guy than an Impact guy. That’s from a slight outsider to both but still.
Now Jarrett beating Effy makes less sense as time goes on.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2022 18:52:44 GMT -5
Also, a bit of a controversial opinion…I consider Cardona way more of a GCW guy than an Impact guy. That’s from a slight outsider to both but still. Now Jarrett beating Effy makes less sense as time goes on. I expected that match and the show to be way wilder than it was. I wanted Jarrett to bust some fools open I will say Jarrett did nothing all match and it was genius
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 25, 2022 20:00:22 GMT -5
Also, a bit of a controversial opinion…I consider Cardona way more of a GCW guy than an Impact guy. That’s from a slight outsider to both but still. Now Jarrett beating Effy makes less sense as time goes on. When they included him in the promo package for the show with most of the known guys, I definitely shifted to seeing him as a GCW guy as well. Dude has become their Shane Douglas.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 25, 2022 20:04:47 GMT -5
Also, a bit of a controversial opinion…I consider Cardona way more of a GCW guy than an Impact guy. That’s from a slight outsider to both but still. Now Jarrett beating Effy makes less sense as time goes on. Apparently Cardona is a free agent, so I don't think he's even in Impact anymore. Unless it's a PPA thing for them. And he's pretty much GCW's top heel.
I get his winning and I also get Ruby Soho winning (because, to be frank, Allie Katch wasn't that good IMO). I didn't like Effy losing to Jarrett at all, though.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
Fry's dog Seymour
Development through Destruction.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 25, 2022 22:21:20 GMT -5
Joey Janela is actively seeking out a way to get Nick Wayne a match with Will Ospreay at Spring Break 6 to make up for Nick not being able to get cleared for this show.
For those unaware: Will Ospreay is Nick Wayne's favorite wrestler. Nick's own in-ring style makes that patently obvious.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
Fry's dog Seymour
Development through Destruction.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 25, 2022 22:28:52 GMT -5
I loved Double J coming out to the rarely used intro to My World. Fits his new persona perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 22:37:25 GMT -5
I don’t know I think Cardona is more of an NWA guy…
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 25, 2022 22:43:17 GMT -5
Also, a bit of a controversial opinion…I consider Cardona way more of a GCW guy than an Impact guy. That’s from a slight outsider to both but still. Now Jarrett beating Effy makes less sense as time goes on. Apparently Cardona is a free agent, so I don't think he's even in Impact anymore. Unless it's a PPA thing for them. And he's pretty much GCW's top heel. I get his winning and I also get Ruby Soho winning (because, to be frank, Allie Katch wasn't that good IMO). I didn't like Effy losing to Jarrett at all, though.
Cardona being a free agent would be interesting considering a certain event that took place at the Impact tapings that I don't think has aired yet. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Cardona defeated Jordynne Grace to become their Digital Media champion, turning heel in the process, unifying his character across all companies he wrestles on regularly. I don't think he would turn heel or win a title if he wasn't sticking around Impact for a while.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jan 25, 2022 22:47:40 GMT -5
I loved Double J coming out to the rarely used intro to My World. Fits his new persona perfectly. One of the coolest lil things TNA did was make prequel themes for all their top guys so in big matches you'd get an extended entrance where they just walked through the way to the tunnel lookin intense.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 25, 2022 23:23:10 GMT -5
I loved Double J coming out to the rarely used intro to My World. Fits his new persona perfectly. One of the coolest lil things TNA did was make prequel themes for all their top guys so in big matches you'd get an extended entrance where they just walked through the way to the tunnel lookin intense. It's amazing that someone listened to it, and decided it would make a really good theme for a dark and silent version of Jeff Jarrett that they don't want people to even ironically cheer, and it somehow works despite being a 10 second loop with BREE WOO BREE WOOO taking up half that time.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 25, 2022 23:39:29 GMT -5
It was honestly incredible to see how Cardona got the biggest reactions all night outside of Gage and no one can really ever compare to Nick's level. I honestly think he could take this kind of gimmick to AEW one day if he wants to as essentially a WWE guy who hates where he works for not being Stamford.
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