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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jan 25, 2022 23:49:03 GMT -5
On a slightly happier note, Mick Foley responded to Matt Cardona’s choice of attire. Language warning. Yes, for a Mick Foley video. I love how Mick Foley goes out of his way to put over younger talents in wrestling, and not being one of those grouchy old dudes doing the "BACK IN MY DAY!" thing. |
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Post by Facetious on Jan 26, 2022 1:52:50 GMT -5
It was honestly incredible to see how Cardona got the biggest reactions all night outside of Gage and no one can really ever compare to Nick's level. I honestly think he could take this kind of gimmick to AEW one day if he wants to as essentially a WWE guy who hates where he works for not being Stamford. I wish he would have right from the get go. Cody's buddy was just laaaaaaame for a gimmick standpoint. |
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Post by eJm on Jan 26, 2022 14:11:23 GMT -5
So you know the whole Nick Wayne situation where the New York State Athletic Commission said he was too young to wrestle? Most likely, it's not a thing. |
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Post by eJm on Jan 26, 2022 15:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 26, 2022 16:34:50 GMT -5
From what I heard the general feeling was the good was great and the bad was awful. Biggest issue apparently was timing |
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Post by Convoy on Jan 26, 2022 16:57:38 GMT -5
I wonder who "played" him. Jarrett was the only real outsider, as Cardona is basically a core roster member now along with Chelsea. |
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Post by chazraps on Jan 26, 2022 18:02:57 GMT -5
I wonder who "played" him. Jarrett was the only real outsider, as Cardona is basically a core roster member now along with Chelsea. If I had to guess, and I don't (frankly, I never have and all my interactions on this board have been of my own volition without a serrated blade to my neck), I don't think it would necessarily be someone in the wrestling business he's referring to. Potentially someone at the venue or the pay-per-view distributor as the show ended an hour early of their allotted pay-per-view time as opposed to their need for a hard-out from the venue by a certain time. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 26, 2022 19:57:10 GMT -5
I feel like this would read a lot better if he'd dropped the fifth sentence. Feels like he's aaaaaalmost to the point of acknowledging "we could have done better and we will", but then he has to try and get some mysterious person to share the blame for the show's middling reception. I'm sure the reaction was a blow but just own it, dude. |
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 26, 2022 21:23:34 GMT -5
I appreciate his transparency and honesty about it. I feel like other promoters would be driven by ego, and ignoring the criticisms, b/c they'd be too busy patting themselves on the back. If GCW ever does get a second chance like this (and it's a big IF with the kind of hype and momentum the company had coming in with WRLD) I'll give it another shot b/c maybe he'll get to do things more in the spirit of GCW. |
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jan 26, 2022 21:24:24 GMT -5
I think the person who played them in the one who called the State athletic commission which forced some changes to the card
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 26, 2022 22:27:57 GMT -5
I think the person who played them in the one who called the State athletic commission which forced some changes to the card If that's what he's referring to, does he really think the absence of Nick Wayne and Charlie Evans was the reason for the fan reaction? |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 28, 2022 13:32:04 GMT -5
Meltzer's ratings are out, I haven't seen all of 'em but I think he's being overly critical:
Jarrett vs. Effy got 1/4 star, Cardona/Janela got 1 star, Allie/Ruby got 1.5 stars.
If we're talking about 60-year-old Jim Cornette being totally out of touch, I do wonder at what point we have to start writing DM off as an out-of-touch AEW sycophant, too.
The show wasn't amazing, but some of those ratings should be reserved for genuinely terrible stuff. That show wasn't genuinely terrible.
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Post by eJm on Jan 28, 2022 14:22:31 GMT -5
Meltzer's ratings are out, I haven't seen all of 'em but I think he's being overly critical: Jarrett vs. Effy got 1/4 star, Cardona/Janela got 1 star, Allie/Ruby got 1.5 stars. If we're talking about 60-year-old Jim Cornette being totally out of touch, I do wonder at what point we have to start writing DM off as an out-of-touch AEW sycophant, too. The show wasn't amazing, but some of those ratings should be reserved for genuinely terrible stuff. That show wasn't genuinely terrible. People say that but he defends WWE a lot on Wrestling Observer Radio. Like, to a degree people get annoyed at him about it. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 29, 2022 7:05:30 GMT -5
I think the person who played them in the one who called the State athletic commission which forced some changes to the card If that's what he's referring to, does he really think the absence of Nick Wayne and Charlie Evans was the reason for the fan reaction? Charli Evans has nothing to do with this, as she and Everett Connors have been touring the UK all month. She was never scheduled for the show. |
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Post by ianriccaboni on Jan 29, 2022 8:05:16 GMT -5
Meltzer's ratings are out, I haven't seen all of 'em but I think he's being overly critical: Jarrett vs. Effy got 1/4 star, Cardona/Janela got 1 star, Allie/Ruby got 1.5 stars. If we're talking about 60-year-old Jim Cornette being totally out of touch, I do wonder at what point we have to start writing DM off as an out-of-touch AEW sycophant, too. The show wasn't amazing, but some of those ratings should be reserved for genuinely terrible stuff. That show wasn't genuinely terrible. I genuinely like Dave as a person and I love reading his old ratings. But I really think he undervalues spectacle and feelings elicited as a component of bouts. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 29, 2022 8:15:34 GMT -5
If that's what he's referring to, does he really think the absence of Nick Wayne and Charlie Evans was the reason for the fan reaction? Charli Evans has nothing to do with this, as she and Everett Connors have been touring the UK all month. She was never scheduled for the show. I think it was actually Billie Starkz I was thinking of, who I believe was originally part of the same ladder match they booked Wayne for. But even if I'm incorrect there, the larger point I was making it that it sounds like he's trying to blame the reception on having to make a couple changes to the card because someone narced to the NYSAC. I don't think that's at all the case, and if that's genuinely what he believes that sounds like selective blindness to me. It's not a good sign. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 29, 2022 21:32:17 GMT -5
Meltzer's ratings are out, I haven't seen all of 'em but I think he's being overly critical: Jarrett vs. Effy got 1/4 star, Cardona/Janela got 1 star, Allie/Ruby got 1.5 stars. If we're talking about 60-year-old Jim Cornette being totally out of touch, I do wonder at what point we have to start writing DM off as an out-of-touch AEW sycophant, too. The show wasn't amazing, but some of those ratings should be reserved for genuinely terrible stuff. That show wasn't genuinely terrible. Dave is one of many people that from what I saw felt that GCW worried too much of making it a spectacle and not about getting their own stars over on their biggest stage |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 30, 2022 3:44:26 GMT -5
Charli Evans has nothing to do with this, as she and Everett Connors have been touring the UK all month. She was never scheduled for the show. I think it was actually Billie Starkz I was thinking of, who I believe was originally part of the same ladder match they booked Wayne for. But even if I'm incorrect there, the larger point I was making it that it sounds like he's trying to blame the reception on having to make a couple changes to the card because someone narced to the NYSAC. I don't think that's at all the case, and if that's genuinely what he believes that sounds like selective blindness to me. It's not a good sign. Billie wasn't announced for the Scramble (which is the match Wayne was supposed to be in). She might have had a graphic made with the intention of using her for the battle royal, and I know she was in attendance. Though I do agree that Brett really shouldn't be harping on Nick Wayne not being allowed to wrestle, especially when the bigger sin was not being timely with the announcement that Gresham was pulled due to COVID concerns (though they were right to do so since Gresham later turned up positive). Especially since the Scramble was probably better with Shane Mercer replacing him, simply because the match lacked a big guy who could throw around the other flippy dudes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 14:22:54 GMT -5
Janela vs. Cardona was the match of the night, a spectacle, loved it!
It was great seeing Homicide get one more showcase for himself against Moxley.
Wish the Briscoes match would've not been cut short. It was crazy while it lasted, regardless.
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