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Post by noobeast on Jan 25, 2022 23:14:30 GMT -5
Shit human being, so I'm sure she'll be brought in.
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Post by karl100589 on Jan 26, 2022 0:59:19 GMT -5
Having followed Ronda’s live stream I have noticed her looking much leaner, so I’d definitely think the Rumble is possible. If she does come back it needs to be as a heel though, especially if it’s against Becky.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 26, 2022 1:15:57 GMT -5
I would be fine with it if it means Bianca gets the first clean pin on Ronda. No Charlotte to blame it on, no iffy pin, a real pin.
Not even saying it has to be a totally clean victory, and I'm sure they'd do something to soften the blow, but Bianca getting a real win over Ronda, I'd call this not a total waste of time, even if Ronda probably would be getting her win back on Becky somewhere in all of this.
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Post by thehottag on Jan 26, 2022 2:28:38 GMT -5
And this is why they are so bad at building new stars. Keep telling fans how much less important your new people are and then wonder why they don’t care as much. It’s long term damage for no good reason. Sooner or later, you need to bite the bullet and stop relying on nostalgia pops. Rousey is hardly a nostalgia pop, is she? I know time flies, but come on now. The second part about the 'less important' full-time acts may be true, but that's on WWE's booking. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. A decently booked show could find a way to promote both groups of wrestlers with 6 hours of weekly televised programming.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 26, 2022 12:20:59 GMT -5
How about a double elimination with Ronda and Bianca.
That why, they both win, no one looks weak and they each get their champion of choice at Mania.
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Post by john84 on Jan 26, 2022 13:14:45 GMT -5
How about a double elimination with Ronda and Bianca. That why, they both win, no one looks weak and they each get their champion of choice at Mania. You mean like a Luger/Hart Rumble finish? If pulled of that'd be cool
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 26, 2022 21:24:59 GMT -5
It honestly feels way longer since she's been gone that it actually has been. The last live show I went to was a Raw here in town that I got cheap tickets too solely cuz I had been a fan of her in UFC before she pissed all her goodwill away and thought "what the hell, see her live once". Ended up bailing right after her segment having checked that off the list of things I hadn't seen and hadn't cared about WWE for a while by then anyway.
But that's basically a long winded way of saying--- man, it feels like at least 8 years since she was around instead of half that.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jan 26, 2022 22:37:22 GMT -5
I think Becky and Charlotte being title holders has put her a lose-lose scenario if she comes back
If Ronnie wins and challenges Charlotte she will be viewed as a coward for avoiding Big Time Becks and Ronnie-Charlotte will be like nucular heat at the level of if Randy Orton vs Batista Main Event actually happened in 2014
if she chooses Becks the audience is getting behind Becky no matter how hard they try to make Ronnie a sympathetic face and Becky a heel and Ronnie still couldn't deal with the fans turning on her. Not sure why that has changed.
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Post by john84 on Jan 26, 2022 22:40:55 GMT -5
I think Becky and Charlotte being title holders has put her a lose-lose scenario if she comes back If Ronnie wins and challenges Charlotte she will be viewed as a coward for avoiding Big Time Becks and Ronnie-Charlotte will be like nucular heat at the level of if Randy Orton vs Batista Main Event actually happened in 2014 if she chooses Becks the audience is getting behind Becky no matter how hard they try to make Ronnie a sympathetic face and Becky a heel and Ronnie still couldn't deal with the fans turning on her. Not sure why that has changed. I just hope they don't do another triple-threat at Mania. Assuming Ronda faces Becky at Mania it needs to be a one-on-one this time IMO since we were denied that first time around. If Ronda faces Charlotte at Mania I'd also want that to be a one-on-one also just to be fair (though in their case I might make it a NO DQ match considering what happened the last time they had a one-on-one match at Survivor Series...)
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 27, 2022 4:50:41 GMT -5
So basically she wiill win the rumble, get booed and quit over her hurt feelings. All whilst collecting a fat pay day and not moving the needle at all.
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Post by mistery on Jan 27, 2022 7:11:19 GMT -5
So basically she wiill win the rumble, get booed and quit over her hurt feelings. All whilst collecting a fat pay day and not moving the needle at all. Yup. This is something people forget. WWE was banking on Ronda being a draw. Problem is that their ratings continued to steadily decline at the tine. Also if she is coming back, she will be paid way more than what she is worth. And it would probably result in WWE cutting a bunch of talent to "justify" paying her that match.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 27, 2022 11:12:47 GMT -5
All whilst collecting a fat pay day and not moving the needle at all. Yup. This is something people forget. WWE was banking on Ronda being a draw. Problem is that their ratings continued to steadily decline at the tine. Also if she is coming back, she will be paid way more than what she is worth. And it would probably result in WWE cutting a bunch of talent to "justify" paying her that match. tbf to WWE being paid more than what she was worth was Ronda whole stick at the time. She got movie appearences , voices in videos games ,etc. Most to unpopular reception . Honestly Wrestling might be the only thing at the time she was slight good at.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 27, 2022 11:42:10 GMT -5
So basically she wiill win the rumble, get booed and quit over her hurt feelings. All whilst collecting a fat pay day and not moving the needle at all. On the flipside ratings have declined since she left. Maybe it's more about not losing existing viewers rather than gaining them these days. Although the Bunny is a draw so who knows. I half joke, WWE seem to value mainstream pres attention and tbf she brings a little of that.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 27, 2022 11:45:59 GMT -5
All whilst collecting a fat pay day and not moving the needle at all. Yup. This is something people forget. WWE was banking on Ronda being a draw. Problem is that their ratings continued to steadily decline at the tine. Also if she is coming back, she will be paid way more than what she is worth. And it would probably result in WWE cutting a bunch of talent to "justify" paying her that match. Meltzer reported that Ronda and Becky’s segments did the best quarterly ratings on the entire show back during their feud.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 27, 2022 11:48:25 GMT -5
I hate to say it but what will get WWE mainstream headlines isn't Bianca winning another Rumble, it's Ronda coming back and that she's in a WrestleMania main event. Whether we like it or not, this is just the WWE way. They've always relied on outside crossover stars when they're available.
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Post by john84 on Jan 27, 2022 12:33:13 GMT -5
As a Wrestler I thought Ronda was good particularly given her lack of experience so match-wise I'm hoping she's still as good as she was (once she's past any ring-rust), I just kinda hope her promos improve this time or they give her a Heyman or someone to do most of the talking for her.
I'd also be interested to see if her and Shayna interact.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 27, 2022 14:39:44 GMT -5
Yup. This is something people forget. WWE was banking on Ronda being a draw. Problem is that their ratings continued to steadily decline at the tine. Also if she is coming back, she will be paid way more than what she is worth. And it would probably result in WWE cutting a bunch of talent to "justify" paying her that match. Meltzer reported that Ronda and Becky’s segments did the best quarterly ratings on the entire show back during their feud. Yeh because people were hyped about Becky not gonna lie part of the hype was that Becky would defeat a legit badass one one one, but it was about Becky,not Ronda. And WWE managed to screw up her only use and appeal which was to put over one of their star as a bad-ass.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 27, 2022 14:57:23 GMT -5
Meltzer reported that Ronda and Becky’s segments did the best quarterly ratings on the entire show back during their feud. Yeh because people were hyped about Becky not gonna lie part of the hype was that Becky would defeat a legit badass one one one, but it was about Becky,not Ronda. And WWE managed to screw up her only use and appeal which was to put over one of their star as a bad-ass. People were hyped about Becky, yes, but Ronda had a pretty serious set of fans, too. I went to a LOT of WWE shows in that timeframe, there were a lot of Ronda shirts, including Mania 35. It was Becky's night, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss Ronda in that instance. I think if this was any other time of year people would be like "oh, sweet" and not "oh no."
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Post by Dub H on Jan 27, 2022 14:59:03 GMT -5
Yeh because people were hyped about Becky not gonna lie part of the hype was that Becky would defeat a legit badass one one one, but it was about Becky,not Ronda. And WWE managed to screw up her only use and appeal which was to put over one of their star as a bad-ass. People were hyped about Becky, yes, but Ronda had a pretty serious set of fans, too. I went to a LOT of WWE shows in that timeframe, there were a lot of Ronda shirts, including Mania 35. It was Becky's night, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss Ronda in that instance. I think if this was any other time of year people would be like "oh, sweet" and not "oh no." Yeh but Ronda wasnt the move needler, Becky was. Ronda did work as a good opponent for her story and at time had a bigger following than today but she wasnt a needle mover.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 27, 2022 15:10:08 GMT -5
People were hyped about Becky, yes, but Ronda had a pretty serious set of fans, too. I went to a LOT of WWE shows in that timeframe, there were a lot of Ronda shirts, including Mania 35. It was Becky's night, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss Ronda in that instance. I think if this was any other time of year people would be like "oh, sweet" and not "oh no." Yeh but Ronda wasnt the move needler, Becky was. Ronda did work as a good opponent for her story and at time had a bigger following than today but she wasnt a needle mover. If her segments were the top-rated portion of the show, she's a needle mover. It takes two to tango. Becky's awesome, but you can't just attribute everything to her alone. Also, I think people look back with some weird revisionist history about Ronda's run when like literally up until that semi-botched finish at Mania 35, she was delivering good matches whenever she was in the ring. Everybody loved that wild segment in the build for Mania where they were all getting arrested, too. She was never a GREAT promo but it got better. Ronda coming back to take the title after a few years off against Becky is a more interesting story right now IMO than Bianca doing the exact same thing she did last year. WWE benefits from it more, too.
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