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Post by DSR on Feb 5, 2022 20:59:15 GMT -5
The Vertebreaker (Shane Helms) and Kudo Driver (Megumi Kudo) names for the same move are both fairly equal depending on where you see them. Ironically though, Kudo never called it that, she called it the Kudome Valentine. Cheerleader Melissa was the one who started calling it the Kudo Driver in America. Also known as the Cop Killer/Gringo Killer when Homicide does it.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Feb 5, 2022 22:53:49 GMT -5
It's kind of nuts that Kevin Nash had a 20 plus year career, multiple famous gimmicks, famous spots, but what's the one move that's now associated with the name he gave it? Snake Eyes, from his time as Vinnie Vegas. Also, the release powerbomb being the "Jacknife" from his days as Diesel.
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Post by AKIMan64 on Feb 5, 2022 23:29:14 GMT -5
Bradshaw's Clothesline from Hell originated from his time in the Acolytes or when they were managed by the Jackyl as "Hell's Henchmen." And his partner Farooq with the Dominator based on his time leading a militia-type stable with the Nation of Domination.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Feb 6, 2022 4:48:29 GMT -5
2 pages and no one said Pedigree? I never even liked HHH but I remember seeing him hit this for the first time in WCW and I thought it looked deadly. It always bothered me during the A.E. when HHH would release the guys arms before impact. I thought the move looked pointless after that. In mid 2000's ROH it became an ongoing gag on commentary when someone used the Pedigree and called it whatever the technical name for it is. The other commentator would say something like "let's be real, it's the Pedigree."
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Feb 6, 2022 8:32:44 GMT -5
How about the corkscrew 450 becoming the Phoenix Splash for Hayabusa
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 6, 2022 9:28:13 GMT -5
Believe it or not the Tombstone name for the kneeling belly-to-belly piledriver predates Undertaker. Gorilla called it a tombstone the very first time Taker used it to eliminate Koko B Ware back in the days when finishers didn’t always have a name right away, ie they didn’t say “He calls this the Razor’s Edge!” during Razor’s first match.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Feb 7, 2022 21:53:37 GMT -5
Tazz and the Tazzmission
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 8, 2022 11:46:21 GMT -5
Aren't even things like the Irish whip and German suplex named those because they were innovated/popularised by people doing ethnic gimmicks?
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 8, 2022 11:53:04 GMT -5
Bradshaw's Clothesline from Hell originated from his time in the Acolytes or when they were managed by the Jackyl as "Hell's Henchmen." And his partner Farooq with the Dominator based on his time leading a militia-type stable with the Nation of Domination. I think the clothesline from hell move was named before the Acolytes. I think it was somewhere in mid 1998 like summer time and was coined by Jim Ross for how devastating it looked.
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Post by petef3 on Feb 8, 2022 11:56:03 GMT -5
Has "Clothesline from Hell" ever been used for any other wrestler besides Bradshaw? If not, it doesn't count for the thread.
"German suplex" comes from Karl Gotch (who was actually Belgian but usually billed as German), though he generally called it an "atomic suplex." It was renamed to a German suplex when he started touring in Japan (for obvious reasons, though "atomic drop" somehow skated by).
Sharpshooter has mostly overtaken scorpion deathlock as the default name for that hold, at least in the U.S.
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Post by chazraps on Feb 8, 2022 12:00:05 GMT -5
BAnd his partner Farooq with the Dominator based on his time leading a militia-type stable with the Nation of Domination. It was called the dominator prior to that, including eggshell head Farooq Asad.
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Post by petef3 on Feb 8, 2022 13:30:49 GMT -5
BAnd his partner Farooq with the Dominator based on his time leading a militia-type stable with the Nation of Domination. It was called the dominator prior to that, including eggshell head Farooq Asad. No, when Faarooq Asad did it it was called the "Tiger Bite" (because Asad made a bunch of tiger analogies in his promos for some reason). I don't know of anyone else ever doing the move besides Faarooq.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 13:50:04 GMT -5
Has "Clothesline from Hell" ever been used for any other wrestler besides Bradshaw? If not, it doesn't count for the thread. "German suplex" comes from Karl Gotch (who was actually Belgian but usually billed as German), though he generally called it an "atomic suplex." It was renamed to a German suplex when he started touring in Japan (for obvious reasons, though "atomic drop" somehow skated by). Sharpshooter has mostly overtaken scorpion deathlock as the default name for that hold, at least in the U.S. In his first few weeks as JBL, they tried calling it "The Clothesline from Wall Street" Sounded corny as f*** so they went back to "Hell"
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 8, 2022 14:58:47 GMT -5
I just realized that the Codebreaker is a hilariously specific example of this.
It's not even like it had to do with a gimmick. It was named in reference to return vignettes that didn't even have code so much as like, stuff that looked like Matrix code for aesthetic.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 8, 2022 15:05:38 GMT -5
It was called the dominator prior to that, including eggshell head Farooq Asad. No, when Faarooq Asad did it it was called the "Tiger Bite" (because Asad made a bunch of tiger analogies in his promos for some reason). I don't know of anyone else ever doing the move besides Faarooq. Bobby Lashley did for a bit, calling it the Dominator, in his first WWE run, though he transitioned to using a running powerslam before long. I guess Chris Adams and the Superkick would count. Commentators would call what we know now as superkicks all kinds of contrived variations of "thrust kick", etc, but Superkick was what stuck, even if I am sure many of the people who do them now have possibly never even seen a Gentleman Chris Adams match in their life.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Feb 8, 2022 15:52:52 GMT -5
Either because the performer made it so good, or the name itself it too good I was wondering the other day why nobody every used the Razor’s edge. The few times they did, it never stuck and every time someone would use, we’d all think “that’s the Razor’s edge. The only one properly used and cal it the Razor’s edge on tv is Damien Priest and I thought it was neat they didn’t give it a new name Also, I notice the backwards Hurrican rana is always called the Poison Rana. Is that a Candace La Rae thing? Cause the poison pixie and all. Speaking of which, hurrican rana itself is named after a wrestling named Hurrican. The only other time I saw it something else is the Frankensteiner and that’s what I always referred to it at first when it started popping up in America, Carlito changed the Lung Blower to Back Cracker to Back stabber and now everyone calls it that The Strech muffler is often referred to as the Brock Lock I first saw and heard the Poison Hurricanrana called that about 16 years ago and it involved Matt Sydal. I'm not sure if it predates that but I bet it does. I'll go to my grave fighting that the Hurricanrana and the Frankensteiner are fundamentally different 😂 Re: lung blower - I think every televised promotion's play by play person minus WWE calls that move the lung blower. The only Stretch Muffler used as a finishing hold in recent times, at least with enough consistency to be referred to as anything was Dak Draper using the Mile High Muffler. If I were a wrestler I'd want my move name to be as far away from the word "Muffler" as possible
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Feb 9, 2022 1:03:41 GMT -5
The swinging side slam is usually called either the Boss Man Slam (after the Big Boss Man) or the Black Hole Slam (after Abyss).
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2022 6:12:15 GMT -5
Either because the performer made it so good, or the name itself it too good I was wondering the other day why nobody every used the Razor’s edge. The few times they did, it never stuck and every time someone would use, we’d all think “that’s the Razor’s edge. The only one properly used and cal it the Razor’s edge on tv is Damien Priest and I thought it was neat they didn’t give it a new name Also, I notice the backwards Hurrican rana is always called the Poison Rana. Is that a Candace La Rae thing? Cause the poison pixie and all. Speaking of which, hurrican rana itself is named after a wrestling named Hurrican. The only other time I saw it something else is the Frankensteiner and that’s what I always referred to it at first when it started popping up in America, Carlito changed the Lung Blower to Back Cracker to Back stabber and now everyone calls it that The Strech muffler is often referred to as the Brock Lock I first saw and heard the Poison Hurricanrana called that about 16 years ago and it involved Matt Sydal. I'm not sure if it predates that but I bet it does. I'll go to my grave fighting that the Hurricanrana and the Frankensteiner are fundamentally different 😂 Re: lung blower - I think every televised promotion's play by play person minus WWE calls that move the lung blower. The only Stretch Muffler used as a finishing hold in recent times, at least with enough consistency to be referred to as anything was Dak Draper using the Mile High Muffler. Agreed on the Poisonrana and Hurricanrana/Frankensteiner bits, but I will say I'm almost positive I've heard Excalibur call it a Backstabber on AEW from time to time, but it's possible it was one of the former-WWE announcers who have done it. I guess I'd probably have to rewatch some Penta matches, since he's probably one of the more consistent users of the move there, but I am too tired right now to investigate.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Feb 9, 2022 7:36:29 GMT -5
I first saw and heard the Poison Hurricanrana called that about 16 years ago and it involved Matt Sydal. I'm not sure if it predates that but I bet it does. I'll go to my grave fighting that the Hurricanrana and the Frankensteiner are fundamentally different 😂 Re: lung blower - I think every televised promotion's play by play person minus WWE calls that move the lung blower. The only Stretch Muffler used as a finishing hold in recent times, at least with enough consistency to be referred to as anything was Dak Draper using the Mile High Muffler. If I were a wrestler I'd want my move name to be as far away from the word "Muffler" as possible “Big Johnny, mah mufflah fell out!”
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Post by Secret Clown on Feb 11, 2022 14:37:03 GMT -5
Opposite of this. Did Hogan’s leg drop ever have a gimmick name
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