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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 11, 2022 17:29:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2022 17:36:58 GMT -5
I'd start by looking from Hooters. 👆
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2022 17:43:37 GMT -5
I'd start by looking from Hooters. 👆 That is allgedley how they found Ollie Jayy....allegedly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2022 17:46:38 GMT -5
And lol only one with no experience showed anything and somehow they will be surprised by this.
But keep up with that plan WWE sure it will work wonders for ya in the long run.
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Post by Totorob101 on Feb 11, 2022 17:51:18 GMT -5
It's for the best really,WWE can train up their own fresh new talents while talented and fully trained pro's have the pick of various superb promotions to work for so no problems I see with the new direction.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 11, 2022 18:02:39 GMT -5
Gee it's almost like almost exclusively pursuing only outsiders with no experience isn't a good idea and historically led to a really high rate of failure and washouts for WWE.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 11, 2022 18:06:02 GMT -5
We inch closer and closer to shows main evented by Omos vs. Shanky with Omos/Shanky/Azeez tier talents filling the rest of the card.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 11, 2022 18:16:45 GMT -5
They legit care more about creating the next Mark Henry than they do AJ Styles etc.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 11, 2022 18:21:38 GMT -5
They legit care more about creating the next Mark Henry than they do AJ Styles etc. Worse than that. With the fun caveat that rather than locking a guy into a huge unbreakable contract they decide he's not worth and try desperately to f*** him out of before he finally grows into a top-end talent, they'll see the early stages Mark Henry stuff that super isn't worth it and just fire them, ensuring that WWE likely never again even makes a Mark Henry.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 11, 2022 18:24:13 GMT -5
They legit care more about creating the next Mark Henry than they do AJ Styles etc. I think it's also looking for the next Roman than Ricochet, but yeah they pick a lot of duds from the litter.
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 11, 2022 18:25:58 GMT -5
And lol only one with no experience showed anything and somehow they will be surprised by this. But keep up with that plan WWE sure it will work wonders for ya in the long run. But oh noes, he's a fan!
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Post by eJm on Feb 11, 2022 18:31:24 GMT -5
See, if you want to have people with no experience come in, you shouldn't expect them to do wrestling drills first day or to understand the mechanics of wrestling, you should be trying to hone what they know into making it work for wrestling.
Like, if you're annoyed at how they run the ropes on their first couple of days, you shouldn't be trying to teach them how to run the ropes in the try-out. You should be judging their look, their fitness, their cardio etc and adjusting your process to make that work for wrestling.
But that seems like a massive effort for them to do so they'll throw their arms up and act annoyed at how try-outs are going, not do much about it, not have NXT book those people onto prominent parts of the show because there's still TV-ready talent you have with a few squeaks of home grown guys who came from wrestling families and then throw out some spin about "giving the independent wrestling talent an opportunity of a lifetime" or whatever.
Also doesn't help when you fire, like, half the staff at the performance centre and not replace them possibly with people who might know how to do what you need them to do but I'm not the billion-dollar company, what do I know?
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 11, 2022 18:39:04 GMT -5
They legit care more about creating the next Mark Henry than they do AJ Styles etc. I think it's also looking for the next Roman than Ricochet, but yeah they pick a lot of duds from the litter. Roman comes from a wrestling dynasty with many of his relatives having worked in the WWE before him. He did not come completely from nowhere.
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Post by eJm on Feb 11, 2022 18:42:02 GMT -5
Roman comes from a wrestling dynasty with many of his relatives having worked in the WWE before him. He did not come completely from nowhere. Hell, most of FCW was basically "son/daughter of (insert WWE Legend here)" outside of your Kofis, your Cesaros and your Rollins. And before people go "Well, Roman was an American footballer", sure, but he also came from a wrestling pedigree. If he wasn't going to make it in football, he was going to head to wrestling ala The Rock, who also didn't make it in football.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 11, 2022 18:47:14 GMT -5
I think it's also looking for the next Roman than Ricochet, but yeah they pick a lot of duds from the litter. Roman comes from a wrestling dynasty with many of his relatives having worked in the WWE before him. He did not come completely from nowhere. Oh I know, just saying they are looking for someone with more mainstream appeal, where indy alumni haven't really done so well with the WWE style.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 11, 2022 18:49:08 GMT -5
They legit care more about creating the next Mark Henry than they do AJ Styles etc. Worse than that. With the fun caveat that rather than locking a guy into a huge unbreakable contract they decide he's not worth and try desperately to f*** him out of before he finally grows into a top-end talent, they'll see the early stages Mark Henry stuff that super isn't worth it and just fire them, ensuring that WWE likely never again even makes a Mark Henry. The answer is they're gonna make a bunch of Mojo Rawleys.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 11, 2022 19:02:24 GMT -5
I feel like what Kurt Angle did gets more impressive by the year. Just took to it like an Olympic level sponge in every aspect of the role.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Feb 11, 2022 19:11:46 GMT -5
They’re making it harder on themselves. Just cast as wide a net as possible. Athletes, independent wrestlers, characters, etc.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 11, 2022 19:12:26 GMT -5
Roman comes from a wrestling dynasty with many of his relatives having worked in the WWE before him. He did not come completely from nowhere. Oh I know, just saying they are looking for someone with more mainstream appeal, where indy alumni haven't really done so well with the WWE style. Roman is a self-fulfilling prophecy; they saw him as the hugest deal, he lucked into a group with real leverage and power, and then stubbornly kept cramming him into the spotlight because they decided he was a big deal and nothing was going to take that away. Eventually, five years later, they finally found a character for him that's been positively received instead of rejected by most of the audience. That's not the inherent star power of Roman as the very real definite megastar over everyone else, that's a testament to them being stubbornly impatient with a guy who had real potential and forcing him to happen until finally he did. How much actual mainstream appeal Roman has seems questionable, they've just refused to back down on this one guy. But by contrast, indie alumni? Nah that's been most of the main event level guys and first-time world champions crowned in the last decade. Seth Rollins was ROH world champ, Drew spent half a decade on the indies before his first run, became a real star in the three years he spent on the UK indies, and came back to WWE ready to finally be a bigger deal. Lashley was seen as an obvious megastar, he washed out inside of three years, and it took two different TNA runs for him to show off something worthy of the main event. Bryan got there in spite of the universe aligning to try and stop him. Punk. AJ Styles. Like even if we want to take the body count of NXT call-ups and blame them all for not being good enough or the right kind of good enough, the idea that people coming from the outside haven't done so well is objectively not true. There is room not only for people to do well in WWE, but to be their high end wrestlers.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 11, 2022 19:13:45 GMT -5
Gee it's almost like almost exclusively pursuing only outsiders with no experience isn't a good idea and historically led to a really high rate of failure and washouts for WWE. WWE: "But Tiffany Stratton is showing big flashes of how good she could be, obviously everybody will be that good." I feel like what Kurt Angle did gets more impressive by the year. Just took to it like an Olympic level sponge in every aspect of the role. And Brock and Ronda. Not everybody can take to wrestling as fast and as well as they did.
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