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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 26, 2022 19:27:45 GMT -5
I'd take all these reports more seriously if they'd come before the announcement that Vince is going on McAfee's show. I don’t know, Meltzer’s not one to outright just say a certain match is scheduled unless it actually is.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 26, 2022 19:29:12 GMT -5
Anyone know how WM's ticket sales are going? I know it's a huge stadium and trying to sell two nights could be a tall task. Is Vince hoping to shift some more seats?
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Feb 26, 2022 20:58:23 GMT -5
The man turns 77 this year, sounds like he’s gargling marbles when he talks now, and his face looks like it’s melting.
Does anybody really want to see Vince McMahon still wrestle?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 26, 2022 21:54:24 GMT -5
Was Rogan too busy?
Woof, this company. Gonna trot out 76 year old Vince. I dunno how y'all watch anymore.
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Post by Andy Martin on Feb 26, 2022 22:08:20 GMT -5
The eventual AJ Hawk heel turn is going to feel like some Top Ten Anime Betrayals type stuff.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2022 22:22:13 GMT -5
You know they're struggling to sell tickets for this Mania when 76 year old Vince McMahon is putting on the proverbial combat helmet and screaming "I'M GOIN' IN!"
Can't imagine how he could have ever prevented this, if only you had one of the best rosters ever assembled at one point in terms of talent you could have built up instead of like one dude all the time...
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 26, 2022 22:37:07 GMT -5
Anyone know how WM's ticket sales are going? I know it's a huge stadium and trying to sell two nights could be a tall task. Is Vince hoping to shift some more seats? Last I saw was about 53,000 tickets sold for each night. Capacity is around 80,000.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 26, 2022 22:38:17 GMT -5
You know they're struggling to sell tickets for this Mania when 76 year old Vince McMahon is putting on the proverbial combat helmet and screaming "I'M GOIN' IN!" Can't imagine how he could have ever prevented this, if only you had one of the best rosters ever assembled at one point in terms of talent you could have built up instead of like one dude all the time... I mean they have sold over 105,000 tickets already between the two nights. It’s going to be a tall task to sell 160,000 tickets for one weekend no matter the card.
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Post by khali on Feb 26, 2022 22:39:12 GMT -5
The man turns 77 this year, sounds like he’s gargling marbles when he talks now, and his face looks like it’s melting. Does anybody really want to see Vince McMahon still wrestle? Not to mention, he’s a guy who didn’t take natural bumps even when he did a lot of matches. He always landed in real awkward clunky ways, and a guy his age should not be doing that.
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Post by Perd on Feb 26, 2022 22:39:19 GMT -5
I’ll admit, this is such an ashtonishingly bad idea, that it definitely holds a level of morbid curiosity, for me. I guess they couldd go the cinematic route. But if they put this in front of a live crowd, it’s impossible to imagine it not being a colossal disaster.
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Post by facethatrunstheplace on Feb 26, 2022 22:48:22 GMT -5
The man turns 77 this year, sounds like he’s gargling marbles when he talks now, and his face looks like it’s melting. Does anybody really want to see Vince McMahon still wrestle? I don't because I think that they should focus on people that are actually on the roster. It's also why I hated the idea of a Shane McMahon match at WrestleMania.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 26, 2022 22:55:32 GMT -5
You know they're struggling to sell tickets for this Mania when 76 year old Vince McMahon is putting on the proverbial combat helmet and screaming "I'M GOIN' IN!" Can't imagine how he could have ever prevented this, if only you had one of the best rosters ever assembled at one point in terms of talent you could have built up instead of like one dude all the time... I mean they have sold over 105,000 tickets already between the two nights. It’s going to be a tall task to sell 160,000 tickets for one weekend no matter the card. Then maybe dont do a two night Mania when you're having to do shit like this on the cards. It made sense before half the roster was f***ing purged in a year and a half.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 26, 2022 22:59:51 GMT -5
Tell you what, Vince, Get through a segment without mumbling and we'll talk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2022 23:07:41 GMT -5
I saw someone mention it and kind of got me thinking....what if the way this Mania is going is Vince knowing this is his last Mania and is literally going back to how he always wanted it with as much of his old cast he can get and tons of celebrity involvement.
And with that Netflix documentary series or whatever coming out about him and now all of a sudden he is supposedly going to have a match at Mania at his ancient age.
Like what if this is really Vince's end we are actually getting because once I got to thinking and then looking at the landscape going into this Mania in particular it actually makes a bit of sense.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 27, 2022 0:21:22 GMT -5
I mean they have sold over 105,000 tickets already between the two nights. It’s going to be a tall task to sell 160,000 tickets for one weekend no matter the card. Then maybe dont do a two night Mania when you're having to do shit like this on the cards. It made sense before half the roster was f***ing purged in a year and a half. I’m sure a lot of fans are excited about most of these rumors. Tons of fans love old-timers, part-timers, celebs, etc. That’s a lot of what made Mania special in the first place. And don’t wish 1 night 8 hour Manias upon us again!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 27, 2022 0:28:40 GMT -5
Then maybe dont do a two night Mania when you're having to do shit like this on the cards. It made sense before half the roster was f***ing purged in a year and a half. I’m sure a lot of fans are excited about most of these rumors. Tons of fans love old-timers, part-timers, celebs, etc. That’s a lot of what made Mania special in the first place. Yes but they were an accessory to the show rather than a dominating portion of it that superseeds showcasing your current and future talent, and bringing any fans back to watch your current product as a whole outside of this event Like I'm not saying "Dont use your past" or even "Don't use Part Timers/Celebs", there are ways to make this work, Bad Bunny showed that recently for example! The issue I'm finding is, they're relying too heavily on it, and doing so more and more. You can put these people into matches that hide their weaknesses and put on impressive showcases, but they're doing multiple of them now, and quite a few of them I'm having a terrible time seeing going well at all. Pat McAfee can surprisingly work, he in fact could put on a match with most of this roster and I'd be interested... a 76 year old Vince McMahon is not one of them, and is an absolutely atrocious idea imo. Like even at least with Logan Paul, who I wish wasn't here, you have three professionals to mask his weaknesses in ring, you'd hope, in this case? I can't really fathom a way where this actively goes well, or even why it'd be necessary to DO in the first place. To me, this is unnecessary and an issue with Mania as a whole that continues to build upon itself, I'm not saying it's not a part of Mania's DNA, nor am I saying it doesn't have a place. Of course it does. The issue to me is how much of a place it's suddenly taking, it's pretty standout to me, I guess.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 27, 2022 0:40:50 GMT -5
I still think if this happens, it’ll be more Austin Theory wrestling on Vince’s behalf while the latter is at ringside.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 27, 2022 1:06:14 GMT -5
I’m sure a lot of fans are excited about most of these rumors. Tons of fans love old-timers, part-timers, celebs, etc. That’s a lot of what made Mania special in the first place. Yes but they were an accessory to the show rather than a dominating portion of it that superseeds showcasing your current and future talent, and bringing any fans back to watch your current product as a whole outside of this event Like I'm not saying "Dont use your past" or even "Don't use Part Timers/Celebs", there are ways to make this work, Bad Bunny showed that recently for example! The issue I'm finding is, they're relying too heavily on it, and doing so more and more. You can put these people into matches that hide their weaknesses and put on impressive showcases, but they're doing multiple of them now, and quite a few of them I'm having a terrible time seeing going well at all. Pat McAfee can surprisingly work, he in fact could put on a match with most of this roster and I'd be interested... a 76 year old Vince McMahon is not one of them, and is an absolutely atrocious idea imo. Like even at least with Logan Paul, who I wish wasn't here, you have three professionals to mask his weaknesses in ring, you'd hope, in this case? I can't really fathom a way where this actively goes well, or even why it'd be necessary to DO in the first place. To me, this is unnecessary and an issue with Mania as a whole that continues to build upon itself, I'm not saying it's not a part of Mania's DNA, nor am I saying it doesn't have a place. Of course it does. The issue to me is how much of a place it's suddenly taking, it's pretty standout to me, I guess. It’s two nights, a 16 match card most likely. There will probably be 2 celebrities involved in matches (Paul and Knoxville) and then this rumored Vince match. Out of 16 matches, with none being more than undercard matches. That doesn’t seem like they’re leaning on it too heavily.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 27, 2022 1:21:17 GMT -5
Yes but they were an accessory to the show rather than a dominating portion of it that superseeds showcasing your current and future talent, and bringing any fans back to watch your current product as a whole outside of this event Like I'm not saying "Dont use your past" or even "Don't use Part Timers/Celebs", there are ways to make this work, Bad Bunny showed that recently for example! The issue I'm finding is, they're relying too heavily on it, and doing so more and more. You can put these people into matches that hide their weaknesses and put on impressive showcases, but they're doing multiple of them now, and quite a few of them I'm having a terrible time seeing going well at all. Pat McAfee can surprisingly work, he in fact could put on a match with most of this roster and I'd be interested... a 76 year old Vince McMahon is not one of them, and is an absolutely atrocious idea imo. Like even at least with Logan Paul, who I wish wasn't here, you have three professionals to mask his weaknesses in ring, you'd hope, in this case? I can't really fathom a way where this actively goes well, or even why it'd be necessary to DO in the first place. To me, this is unnecessary and an issue with Mania as a whole that continues to build upon itself, I'm not saying it's not a part of Mania's DNA, nor am I saying it doesn't have a place. Of course it does. The issue to me is how much of a place it's suddenly taking, it's pretty standout to me, I guess. It’s two nights, a 16 match card most likely. There will probably be 2 celebrities involved in matches (Paul and Knoxville) and then this rumored Vince match. Out of 16 matches, with none being more than undercard matches. That doesn’t seem like they’re leaning on it too heavily. The Main event contains the biggest part timer they have. instead of building people up to take on Roman... they just threw one of the most overdone matches ever together.
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Post by gnr123 on Feb 27, 2022 1:33:31 GMT -5
Then maybe dont do a two night Mania when you're having to do shit like this on the cards. It made sense before half the roster was f***ing purged in a year and a half. I’m sure a lot of fans are excited about most of these rumors. Tons of fans love old-timers, part-timers, celebs, etc. That’s a lot of what made Mania special in the first place. And don’t wish 1 night 8 hour Manias upon us again! Exactly, and I don't understand this problem people have with celebrities and part-timer's. Especially this year. People keep harping on these part-timers taking over the show, yet the only part-timer I see is Ronda Rousey, and she's been there mostly every week since the Rumble. The Rock was the quintessential part timer, yet when he beat John Cena in his second match in 8 years, NO ONE had a problem with it. It seems like people one have a problem with WHO the part timer is, not necessarily part-timers themselves. And you have 2 celebrities in Logan Paul and Johhny Knoxville. TWO! And two rumored "matches" that involve with Stone Cold and Vince McMahon. One with probably been either a segment on the KO Show, where Austin will wrestle a bit with Owens and hit the Stunner for the win. Maybe a 5 minute match if anything. The McMahon match will probably be the same, or will probably have Austin Theory replace Vince, sort of like the Battle of the Billionaires. Or maybe Pat cold get someone to wrestle for him as well, maybe even Cody Rhodes. Who knows? If Vince does actually wrestle, I'm pretty sure there will be alot of shenanigans, it won't be like the atrocious Lawler vs. Cole match a few years ago. And I like how people are telling Austin and Vince that they shouldn't wrestle, like they know better than the people themselves. People keep acting like Austin is coming out of retirement, like he'll be wrestling every week on RAW, this'll likely be a one and done special match for the Texas fans, people are acting like Austin's going to be fighting Brock for the WWE Championship at Backlash or something. WrestleMania has always been about the majesty of wrestling and entertainment, mixing a compact "sport," with the glamor of celebrities. All the way back from WrestleMania 1
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