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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2022 7:03:12 GMT -5
John Cena can't lift The Big Show up for the AA, it's impossible!
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 9, 2022 7:05:10 GMT -5
At least Emma got to make that her catchphrase for awhile...granted she was the heel so we weren't supposed to believe her. Since both are gone, I doubt they'd advertise the fact. The "women's revolution" keeps altering every other month it seems. "It started in 1993 with Alundra Blayze!" "No the Bellas started it!" And so on and so forth. And it was a Bellas match that was the reason the hashtag started trending. The WWE hyped up the Bellas vs Emma and Paige, and the match was 30 seconds. That was the moment the dam burst, all the anger over WWE's booking of the women that fans have had for a long time, came out at once. That was the match, that was the moment it happened. If we're talking a singular moment, that was probably THE one, though AJ Lee confronting Stephanie on twitter to force a response that went past lip service was also a large factor.
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tafkaga
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 9, 2022 9:41:36 GMT -5
*giant fat guy enters the Royal Rumble* "Omg giant fat guy is going to win because who is going to be able to lift him over the top? "
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agent817
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Post by agent817 on Mar 9, 2022 10:19:24 GMT -5
The old "If it was a house show it didn't happen" philosophy. With the exception of One Night Only, I wonder how relevant to storylines the UK PPVs ago.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 9, 2022 18:50:38 GMT -5
The Triple H/nWo 2002 thread caused me to remember.
When WWE brought back Big Gold in 2002 they did a story on Confidential about the history of the title going back to the NWA (before Big Gold even). So it seemed like this was them bringing back the old NWA/WCW title and lineage. But then the next year H is making fun of Booker for.never winning a "big one" and only a title held by David Arquette. A title H was holding at the time.
Basically the Big Gold in WWE did or did not have the history depending on whether they wanted it to that day.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 10, 2022 11:10:33 GMT -5
I saw recently that Randy Orton is still parroting the "me and Triple H were screwed at Wrestlemania 25 because fans had just watched Undertaker and Michaels kick out of each finishers and were spent" line. Someone rightfully pointed out that Edge, Cena and Big Show went out immediately after that match though and got the crowd into it. But also the year prior both Orton and Triple H wrestled after the Flair/Michaels retirement match which would have been even more emotionally draining for fans but they managed to have a hot crowd for their match that time. Granted it was a triple threat involving Cena who was capable of wrestling almost anyone and keeping the crowd engaged.
Fans didn't care about the match because it was boring, no other reason. If it was a wild crazy brawl like it should have been (and like they themselves had at No Mercy 2007) then fans would have eventually bought into it even if they were a bit tired. Look at Wrestlemania 30. The crowd had witnessed the streak ending and were pretty down so they were quiet for the first half of the main event but once it kicked into high gear they got loud again.
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agent817
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Post by agent817 on Mar 11, 2022 18:34:52 GMT -5
John Cena can't lift The Big Show up for the AA, it's impossible! Was this in the late-2000s or early-2010s? Because I can only imagine that Wrestlemania XX wasn't mentioned, which was much earlier than that.
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Post by SmashTV on Mar 12, 2022 11:16:05 GMT -5
I remember before WM7 that Monsoon said it was the first time Hogan was going into a WM main event as the challenger.
Except for the main event two years earlier at WM5 when he was challenging Savage for the belt...
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Mar 12, 2022 11:18:14 GMT -5
ANYTHING this man said on any WWE documentary.
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 12, 2022 11:27:11 GMT -5
I remember before WM7 that Monsoon said it was the first time Hogan was going into a WM main event as the challenger. Except for the main event two years earlier at WM5 when he was challenging Savage for the belt... I feel that's a case of bad memory over selective. Monsoon said a lot of wrong things. At Royal Rumble '93, Ric Flair was Rick Martel and Carlos Colon was a youngster. Then I think during the same Rumble he said something about Martel having the record for the longest duration at 53 minutes when Flair had broken that record the year before.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 12, 2022 14:42:20 GMT -5
*giant fat guy enters the Royal Rumble* "Omg giant fat guy is going to win because who is going to be able to lift him over the top? " For those keeping score at home, wrestlers weighing over 400 lbs have a whopping ONE Royal Rumble win in 34 years.
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Post by chrom on Mar 12, 2022 14:49:56 GMT -5
*giant fat guy enters the Royal Rumble* "Omg giant fat guy is going to win because who is going to be able to lift him over the top? " For those keeping score at home, wrestlers weighing over 400 lbs have a whopping ONE Royal Rumble win in 34 years. None other than Yokozuna
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Post by sunnytaker on Mar 12, 2022 15:22:19 GMT -5
WWE - Undefeated Snitzky. Many things about the women's "revolution", Emma and Summer Rae never getting a mention in particular. And of course Steph's role. Aew -Adam Cole has won world titles everywhere he's gone. Weird one, revising other companies history, should have said major titles not world. TNA - AJ Styles wins everything. Twice. Then they start saying he'll be a big star one day. well cole is a heel and truth and heels tend to be a bit blurry with accuracy (he types while listening to chugs go on about how awesome elden ring is on twitch)
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 12, 2022 16:11:43 GMT -5
How Eddie “Never” beat Rey, even though he has both in wwe and wcw before their 2005 fued
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Post by msc on Mar 12, 2022 16:13:49 GMT -5
WWE - Undefeated Snitzky. Many things about the women's "revolution", Emma and Summer Rae never getting a mention in particular. And of course Steph's role. Aew -Adam Cole has won world titles everywhere he's gone. Weird one, revising other companies history, should have said major titles not world. TNA - AJ Styles wins everything. Twice. Then they start saying he'll be a big star one day. NXT's title is a world title, PWG title, plus there's the ROH one, obviously. I guess that'd still be wrong in so far as Cole obviously didn't win the IWGP title, but I don't think he really ever caught on that much in Japan to begin with, honestly. Also CZW, so yeah. Feels more like an exaggeration than a full-blown revision. One for me is when people lionize the NWA, when honestly, the treatment of Ann Gunkel was absolutely disgusting, and they transparently abandoned Nick Gulas with the exception of The Sheik trying to still help him in the doomed war against Jerry Jarrett. Vince isn't the angel he presented himself as, but he also was battling other scoundrels, too. Was actually reading about the split in Bret's book last night. Verne Gagne was already persona non gratis as someone who wanted to expand and take out others, Vince and Ole Anderson got into an argument about TV deals in North Carolina and Philly, and Vince left the room, while the Crocketts were trying to schmooze others. Stu Hart (and yes this is Bret's posthumous take on his dad, so caveat) apparently summed it up as Verne, Vince and the Crocketts would expand and piss on everyone else, and Vince had the New York TV deal so Verne and the Crocketts would run out of money quicker. But yeah, sounded like a nest of vipers.
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Post by bob on Mar 12, 2022 16:18:28 GMT -5
Michael Cole, "I've never seen the Undertaker manhandled like this before"
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 12, 2022 16:27:42 GMT -5
NXT's title is a world title, PWG title, plus there's the ROH one, obviously. I guess that'd still be wrong in so far as Cole obviously didn't win the IWGP title, but I don't think he really ever caught on that much in Japan to begin with, honestly. Also CZW, so yeah. Feels more like an exaggeration than a full-blown revision. One for me is when people lionize the NWA, when honestly, the treatment of Ann Gunkel was absolutely disgusting, and they transparently abandoned Nick Gulas with the exception of The Sheik trying to still help him in the doomed war against Jerry Jarrett. Vince isn't the angel he presented himself as, but he also was battling other scoundrels, too. Was actually reading about the split in Bret's book last night. Verne Gagne was already persona non gratis as someone who wanted to expand and take out others, Vince and Ole Anderson got into an argument about TV deals in North Carolina and Philly, and Vince left the room, while the Crocketts were trying to schmooze others. Stu Hart (and yes this is Bret's posthumous take on his dad, so caveat) apparently summed it up as Verne, Vince and the Crocketts would expand and piss on everyone else, and Vince had the New York TV deal so Verne and the Crocketts would run out of money quicker. But yeah, sounded like a nest of vipers. Yep, Verne already had begun doing what Vince would do later, only without as lucrative a place to start or the kind of infrastructure Vince benefited from (and which would later help him destroy the Crocketts). I think he also benefited from Verne's lack of vision when it came to making the most out of TV, something that can be noticed if you ever try to watch AWA's dreadfully boring and uneventful TV episodes.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 12, 2022 16:36:46 GMT -5
Was actually reading about the split in Bret's book last night. Verne Gagne was already persona non gratis as someone who wanted to expand and take out others, Vince and Ole Anderson got into an argument about TV deals in North Carolina and Philly, and Vince left the room, while the Crocketts were trying to schmooze others. Stu Hart (and yes this is Bret's posthumous take on his dad, so caveat) apparently summed it up as Verne, Vince and the Crocketts would expand and piss on everyone else, and Vince had the New York TV deal so Verne and the Crocketts would run out of money quicker. But yeah, sounded like a nest of vipers. Yep, Verne already had begun doing what Vince would do later, only without as lucrative a place to start or the kind of infrastructure Vince benefited from (and which would later help him destroy the Crocketts). I think he also benefited from Verne's lack of vision when it came to making the most out of TV, something that can be noticed if you ever try to watch AWA's dreadfully boring and uneventful TV episodes. Vince and his sideshow carnival was really the best way to maximise TV. Live events were still the moneymaker so you wanted to save the good matches for the paying crowd. So Vince got eyes on his TV shows with the entertainment stuff while everyone else just had the same old jobber matches and promos.
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Post by 4real on Mar 12, 2022 16:44:47 GMT -5
For years I was convinced Kurt Angle kicked out of 3 stunners at Summerslam 01. I’m sure commentary put it over like that. In reality he kicked out of 2 and on the 2nd one just fell out of the ring.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Mar 12, 2022 16:52:54 GMT -5
Edge and Christian were never brothers.
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