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Post by hijuko on Mar 11, 2022 7:59:43 GMT -5
It’s amazing what the WWE was able to produce during this ppv and that it never managed to reproduce afterwards or before in Mania 16 or 18 who had roughly the same roster.
To believe that during this ppv only, the federation has decided to mobilize all its best elements and its best means and offer us for an evening only what is done best in wrestling.
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Post by Ludwig Kaiser’s Walk on Mar 11, 2022 8:10:46 GMT -5
It helped to have the roster being healthy for that one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 8:15:12 GMT -5
It's really hard to find a WWE show that's more well rounded. It has almost something for someone.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Mar 11, 2022 8:34:50 GMT -5
It's not even about the quality of each individual match. They range from mostly alright, with a few standouts. However, as a collective, combined with the sheer spectacle of the Astrodome, My Way being an absolutely perfect theme... It all just comes together so well.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 11, 2022 9:06:36 GMT -5
Perfect storm. 1999 may’ve been their peak popularity, but 2000 was still huge and came to a head at WM X-Seven. Also, being the first WrestleMania in a stadium in 9 years absolutely added to the excitement. The fact that it’s a smooth flowing show with memorable matches was icing on the cake.
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 11, 2022 9:13:54 GMT -5
It's not even about the quality of each individual match. They range from mostly alright, with a few standouts. However, as a collective, combined with the sheer spectacle of the Astrodome, My Way being an absolutely perfect theme... It all just comes together so well. The variety plays a big part especially as much of it was the peak/culmination of a lot of things that made that period special. Even at the time it had the feeling of an end of an era (end of Monday night wars) and that's only grown with time. It's rare to get definitive endings in wrestling, even if some things technically continued (TLC4 is largely forgotten) it's as close as we'll get.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 11, 2022 9:14:19 GMT -5
They were late on the draw with the stadium shows relative to their popularity. So instead of having giant gates in 1999/2000/2001, we got them in 2001/2002/2003 so at least 2001 was a year they did it and it matched how hot the product was.
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 11, 2022 10:05:24 GMT -5
It had something for everyone.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 11, 2022 10:31:18 GMT -5
Why is this thread in two different forums?
I thought I was seeing double there - four threads about WM17!
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Post by 4real on Mar 11, 2022 11:12:08 GMT -5
Coming off arguably their best year ever and having all their big stars healthy is one reason.
They were so hot and had matches that people really wanted to see at that time and arguably the biggest main event since Hogan v Warrior at Mania 6.
You had great technical wrestling in Benoit v Angle, great storytelling in Vince v Shane, the car crash of TLC 2 and the 2 biggest stars in the business in the main event it would have been hard to fail.
Throw in other fun matches like the Hardcore triple threat, Jericho v Regal & the Gimmick battle Royale and you have a whopper all timer.
Coming off a Mania that only had one singles match, a heel winning in the main event & a lot of tag team filler it makes it look extra good. The roster was just at their peak in early 2001.
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Post by hijuko on Mar 11, 2022 12:41:12 GMT -5
Why is this thread in two different forums? I thought I was seeing double there - four threads about WM17! Sorry, I have seen that this thread must be in "rest of wrestling" and I can't delete this topic.
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Post by government mule on Mar 11, 2022 12:50:02 GMT -5
It just felt at the time that they decided to put some proper serious effort into making the whole event a spectacle, because the previous WM served only to provide a continuation of the main event storyline (the real ending was a month later at Backlash which seems inexplicable now but I guess they smelt the cash at the idea of more PPV buys at the time where competition was a little more fierce).
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 11, 2022 13:44:34 GMT -5
It is a good question because the buyrate reflects the build, not the show
And the build was not perfect
Remember the Debra shit?
Plus at X8 they actually had more big draws
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Post by cornettesracket on Mar 11, 2022 19:47:11 GMT -5
Why is this thread in two different forums? I thought I was seeing double there - four threads about WM17! Four krustys ?
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Post by flowercity on Mar 11, 2022 22:32:02 GMT -5
Every match is so different it never gets stale. If it wasn’t for the Stone Cold turn I’m pretty sure it would universally agreed upon as the best wrestling show ever.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Mar 11, 2022 23:20:30 GMT -5
Just the right combination of stars aligning.
You had one of the best rosters they'd ever had and nobody major was on the injured list, unlike the year before (Austin, Undertaker) and after (Benoit).
You had the draw of Austin/Rock II, face vs. face, with the iconic My Way video.
Fun undercard matches, like TLC2, Benoit/Angle, the Hardcore Title, Vince vs. Shane and the Gimmick Battle Royal.
A hot crowd that stayed hot for the entire show. (Fun fact: one of my best friends at the time was in the crowd.)
As many have said over the years, it was the end of an era. The Attitude Era, as we knew it, basically ended with this show, complete with Austin and McMahon joining forces in the closing moments, to cement that things were going to be different from that point going forward.
The reason they had never pulled it off before, or since, is because Mania is usually about the spectacle. The first several were more or less just roided up house shows that they put in closed-circuit movie theatres. 17 was the first one to feel like a proper WrestleMania and the only one to really hit on every cylinder. There have been plenty of great Manias since, but they've all had their fair share of issues, whereas this one was about as perfect as a WrestleMania could possibly get.
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Post by nm on Mar 12, 2022 0:42:56 GMT -5
Vince booked the show while suffering from anal bleeding
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Post by Rolent Tex on Mar 12, 2022 1:20:27 GMT -5
What I remember most about this show is close after showing up to work and seeing “Shane McMahon” on the resort guest list and I had to deliver the man’s pancakes. He had a hell of a shiner from the match with Vince.
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Post by karl100589 on Mar 12, 2022 1:22:53 GMT -5
The Goon.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Mar 12, 2022 8:48:42 GMT -5
It's not even about the quality of each individual match. They range from mostly alright, with a few standouts. However, as a collective, combined with the sheer spectacle of the Astrodome, My Way being an absolutely perfect theme... It all just comes together so well. The variety plays a big part especially as much of it was the peak/culmination of a lot of things that made that period special. Even at the time it had the feeling of an end of an era (end of Monday night wars) and that's only grown with time. It's rare to get definitive endings in wrestling, even if some things technically continued (TLC4 is largely forgotten) it's as close as we'll get. I agree with both of these posts. The Astrodome was a huge part of WrestleMania X-Seven feeling special. Many of us were too young or not fans when the really big spectacle Wrestlemanias of the Hogan Era took place. This show just looked important in a way that the other big Attitude Era WrestleManias didn’t. Also, this definitely had the feeling of an end of an era even as it was happening. There really was no reason to do TLC 2. The story wasn’t naturally trending that way in the fall and winter. Same with some of the big matches like Benoit vs Angle and Undertaker and Triple H. It felt like they were loading up this card to be THE show of the era. Even in that time, while wrestling was still popular obviously, it didn’t have the cool factor that it had in 1998-99. You could feel that the boom was waning and we were heading back toward an equilibrium where wrestling usually sits - a big niche on the outside of pop culture. Then when ECW and WCW closed down right before the show, there was a palpable feeling that this might be it - the show to end all shows to celebrate this amazing period of wrestling before we enter an uncertain time. And then the show was awesome. All the big matches delivered and most of the undercard matches were fun. Though I will say, I remember the Austin heel turn being hated by nearly everyone. It damn near ruined the show for a lot of people. And then the TV coming out of WrestleMania was really not good, especially with The Rock leaving almost immediately. The hangover coming off of WrestleMania X-Seven was rough. During the show, it felt like after tonight, things will never be the same. And they haven’t. It’s kinda sad
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