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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 14, 2022 14:27:13 GMT -5
Mickie James (of 2022 Rumble fame), Victoria, Bull Nakano, Cyndi Lauper are just chilling on the sidelines while Sharmell is inducted for... *checks notes* I'm not sure actually. How about the glaring omissions from the 80’s: Leilani Kai, Velvet McIntyre and Rockin’ Robin are all not in. Moolah's girls. I'm sure they want to be far away from acknowledging that again. Never mind that there are also people who say "that" was actually overblown and not totally accurate. But..."canceling" is like a tube of toothpaste, once it's out... (This is also why I think the new history of the women's division begins with the Alundra Blayze Era. Like with that countdown on Peacock last year) It's also why no Lauper probably. That and the aforementioned theory that a certain other celebrity/politician being there is her dealbreaker...unless that's NEWZ... Sharmell is because 1) the Huffmans live in Texas and 2) I dunno, to complete the Harlem Heat Family? 3)...POSSIBLY...to say they inducted POC for men and women alike.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 14, 2022 14:32:27 GMT -5
Ah well, I thought Cloudy would get in this year. It's Katie Vick's time!!!! Bertha Faye? (Doudrop can induct...showing we really haven't gone that far as far as gimmicking PSW...) (And Cloudy = more deserving than Sunny these days, honestly...)
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Post by edgestar on Mar 14, 2022 14:53:59 GMT -5
Did Booker threaten to leave or something? I would be so pissed. When I met Jerry Lawler, a few months ago, I asked how preshows with Booker were, and he said he was awesome to work with. Then, he showed me a picture of him and Booker, taking a selfie.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Mar 14, 2022 15:07:18 GMT -5
While Sharmell, to put it nicely, isn't the greatest inductee they've ever chosen, I get why they picked her. They wanted a female inductee and a non-white inductee. Preferably alive so that if they take a class photo, it's not all white men. This kills two birds with one stone. Plus it's somewhat of a feel good induction as she probably never thought they'd ask her.
There were other options, but most of them came with hurdles such as being ill or dead, currently working for a rival company, could be used as a headliner in a different class, were part of the concussion lawsuit, or simply haven't retired yet. The only two I can think of that completely clear those issues are Tatanka and Bull Nakano. Both of whom I believe are scheduled to appear at Wrestlecon, but WWE has chosen from Wrestlecon guests in the past. Bull Nakano, by being female and not white, fits the bill perfectly. Well almost perfectly since she's not Booker T's wife that lives in Texas.
Honestly though, McMahon, Prichard, Dunn, and Laurinaitis probably spend twenty minutes on a plane ride discussing the next Hall of Fame class and if they can't remember you in that quick discussion, you're out of luck. Triple H, if he is even consulted about anything anymore, is probably the best advocate for actually putting some thought into it, but that doesn't mean he'd be against the induction of the wife of his friend Booker T. You'd hope when they discuss this stuff, they'd at least have a copy of their WWE Encyclopedia handy. *shrugs*
In regards to Cyndi Lauper, they don't count the celeb as their diverse inductee. So it could still potentially happen this year. A couple of years ago, Lance Storm made a comment on twitter about Cyndi turning the Hall down. Then Lauper herself replied back to him something like "not that I remember." So she probably hasn't been inducted because of scheduling conflicts or has never been asked. If that latter, I think it'll happen eventually.
As for Koko, I always laugh at him being brought up because in that very same 2009 class they inducted Chris and Mike Von Erich.
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Post by eJm on Mar 14, 2022 15:15:21 GMT -5
I think this also is one of the things where the HOF is seen as a lesser priority. It's taped after Smackdown for one and also, with how WrestleMania weekend has been going, it's hard to pick a slot where it's not going to get overwhelmed by everything. NXT S&D has the problem right now of being the day of WrestleMania Day One and as Effy's Big Gay Brunch and such and with how cold the brand is, it's optimistic to say it'll do alright as is especially with the arena plan that's in place for it.
So having an induction like Sharmell, no disrespect to her as a person, is basically saying she's giving her time to shine but it likely won't be taped and aired on Peacock and it also isn't something you have to see if you've got other stuff to do like the WrestleMania shop, THE WRLD of Lucha/Spring Break Part Two or just resting before WrestleMania.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 15:25:33 GMT -5
I bet WWE wanted to induct a black female legend, and then realized they never attempted to make a black woman a star before like 7 years ago.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2022 15:26:00 GMT -5
I'm not so much upset that she's getting in the HOF, I'm more puzzled that Miss Elizabeth ISN'T in the Hall of Fame yet?
Like HOW? That's such a f***ing standout omission from the Hall, she should have been in like... decades ago.
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Post by chrom on Mar 14, 2022 15:36:40 GMT -5
I bet WWE wanted to induct a black female legend, and then realized they never attempted to make a black woman a star before like 7 years ago. Jacqueline is in and there's also Jazz they could have inducted
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 14, 2022 15:38:48 GMT -5
I know they like to put at least one woman in there every year but seriously? Nothing against her personally or anything as I'm sure she's nice but this is setting the bar to an all time low. I mean people complained about Torrie but at least she was memorable, was presented as a star, and wrestled a decent bit.
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Post by papagiorgio on Mar 14, 2022 15:43:35 GMT -5
I bet WWE wanted to induct a black female legend, and then realized they never attempted to make a black woman a star before like 7 years ago. Jackie is already in HOF. Jazz, Layla, or heck even Alicia Fox (who I wouldn't put in either) are better choices if one needs to specifically limit the choice. I think Bull Nakano would have been a good choice for a POC female. Nothing is stopping them from doing a POC male either instead if they are actually using race as a qualifier. There are a lot more choices there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 15:44:23 GMT -5
I bet WWE wanted to induct a black female legend, and then realized they never attempted to make a black woman a star before like 7 years ago. Jacqueline is in and there's also Jazz they could have inducted Alicia Fox Awesome Kong/Kharma Aja Kong Jazz So there are still black women they could have inducted that IMO are stronger choices to be in the HOF before Sharmell's name should ever come up.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Mar 14, 2022 15:54:49 GMT -5
I'll give them credit, this as piqued my interest, I can't be the only one curious to see her induction video It’ll be the length of a Tik Tok
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Mar 14, 2022 15:59:35 GMT -5
I get not liking a pick for the Hall of Fame, but jeez some of this thread is crazy. That's all I'll say.
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 14, 2022 16:34:08 GMT -5
I'm not so much upset that she's getting in the HOF, I'm more puzzled that Miss Elizabeth ISN'T in the Hall of Fame yet? Like HOW? That's such a f***ing standout omission from the Hall, she should have been in like... decades ago. IIRC, her family doesn't want anything to do with the wrestling business.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 16:39:33 GMT -5
I don’t think race has that much to do with it at all. As said there’s other candidates.
More likely she’s well liked backstage. I believe the whole reason she got on tv in the first place was that her and Booker travelled everywhere together so she’s probably backstage at most PPVs that he’s doing the pre show on and has kept herself in touch and popular with all.
Possible she simply asked and they said yes, or Bookers contract is coming up and they see him as an asset to AEW.
I doubt she’ll be the only woman inductee this year. They will want someone with slightly more impressive footage for the highlight reel.
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Post by thehottag on Mar 14, 2022 16:45:29 GMT -5
So this is the new bar to clear, yeah?
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 14, 2022 17:09:58 GMT -5
While Sharmell, to put it nicely, isn't the greatest inductee they've ever chosen, I get why they picked her. They wanted a female inductee and a non-white inductee. Preferably alive so that if they take a class photo, it's not all white men. This kills two birds with one stone. Plus it's somewhat of a feel good induction as she probably never thought they'd ask her. There were other options, but most of them came with hurdles such as being ill or dead, currently working for a rival company, could be used as a headliner in a different class, were part of the concussion lawsuit, or simply haven't retired yet. The only two I can think of that completely clear those issues are Tatanka and Bull Nakano. Both of whom I believe are scheduled to appear at Wrestlecon, but WWE has chosen from Wrestlecon guests in the past. Bull Nakano, by being female and not white, fits the bill perfectly. Well almost perfectly since she's not Booker T's wife that lives in Texas. Honestly though, McMahon, Prichard, Dunn, and Laurinaitis probably spend twenty minutes on a plane ride discussing the next Hall of Fame class and if they can't remember you in that quick discussion, you're out of luck. Triple H, if he is even consulted about anything anymore, is probably the best advocate for actually putting some thought into it, but that doesn't mean he'd be against the induction of the wife of his friend Booker T. You'd hope when they discuss this stuff, they'd at least have a copy of their WWE Encyclopedia handy. *shrugs* In regards to Cyndi Lauper, they don't count the celeb as their diverse inductee. So it could still potentially happen this year. A couple of years ago, Lance Storm made a comment on twitter about Cyndi turning the Hall down. Then Lauper herself replied back to him something like "not that I remember." So she probably hasn't been inducted because of scheduling conflicts or has never been asked. If that latter, I think it'll happen eventually. As for Koko, I always laugh at him being brought up because in that very same 2009 class they inducted Chris and Mike Von Erich. Fritz too...but being a great person is not a qualification of course. Yes sad to say and forgive me if I didn't think of a better word, but looks like Sharmell was chosen to be, well, the token. Heh, heh, Triple H's "friend". Remembers WM19 then thinks, who needs enemies?
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 14, 2022 17:12:48 GMT -5
I bet WWE wanted to induct a black female legend, and then realized they never attempted to make a black woman a star before like 7 years ago. Jacqueline is in and there's also Jazz they could have inducted Jazz is a combo "doesn't like them/was in the CTE deal". How can we forget Shaniqua? (quite easily, actually ;-)) Trying to think of anyone from the Hulkamania era...Black Venus? Anyone else? (Moot point, however, because Moolah's girls) Hey, how about Dark Journey? (I assume she lived somewhere nearby being a Mid Souther)
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 14, 2022 17:20:50 GMT -5
I never expected Elizabeth to go in after that devoted an hour to discussing her untimely death TMZ style.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 14, 2022 17:51:13 GMT -5
Thought Stacy Kiebler might have... but no, only other one I can think might get in Kimberly as a legacy wing or something. Still amazed that Stacy isn’t in yet. I don’t get why WWE hasn’t brought her in for any kind of nostalgia reasons. Not sure about now but for a long time Stacey was trying to make it as an actress and she downplayed her time as a wrestler significantly.
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