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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 16, 2022 6:53:26 GMT -5
NXT under hunter was not producing the kind of talent Vince wanted, at the end of the day. It's funny, the big success NXT had in developing fresh talent came as a side effect of their stripmining of ROH and the indies. While the plan was to kill the info scene with a touring super indie, he cleared a lot of land for fresh shoots to grow. I've said it before. A big complaint the last couple years of the black and gold brand was that NXT was supposed to be where indy wrestlers learned to work WWE matches. Bur agents and producers were becoming frustrated as when wrestlers were getting called up to the main roster they had to be taught how not to work NXT matches (SRS and Zarian have confirmed this in the past) I know a lot of people hate NXT 2.0, and I get it, but at the end of the day there was a disconnect between Triple H and Vince that was starting to and going to cause issues... and from the WWE's standpoint I think both share equal blame there. Vince for being outdated, Triple H for having unrealistic expectations for what he could do with the NXT brand. Now in fairness to HBK if we look at what he has to work with in 2.0, when you consider how raw so much of the talent is, I do think they're doing a good job with a core group of talent
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 16, 2022 7:51:46 GMT -5
It became pretty obvious HHH was just doing fantasy booking with no real regard for how folks might transition to the main roster so yeah, this tracks, tbh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 9:05:04 GMT -5
15 years ago I think HHH might've laughed at the idea of guys like Adam Cole, Finn Balor, and Johnny Gargano being big stars, so I think it's cool that he's at least changed with the times, even though I've had a few problems with his way of doing things (especially towards the end of the black and gold era). I agree with everyone who's said that the best approach is a little bit of both of HHH and HBK's philosophies.
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Post by noobeast on Mar 16, 2022 12:32:48 GMT -5
It's almost like Triple H started running NXT like a developmental brand that aired exclusively on a streaming service at first, but then had to pivot his last couple of years to preparing/becoming a third brand on cable expected to pull ratings and needing to push people who could do that...but no, that couldn't POSSIBLY be why his booking style was the was it was while Swerve was there.
Also the "Triple H doesn't push black/minority talent" narrative is so f***ing laughable that I can't believe some of you are even bringing it up. Even passing glimpse of his time running NXT proves you flat out wrong.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 16, 2022 14:23:24 GMT -5
NXT under hunter was not producing the kind of talent Vince wanted, at the end of the day. It's funny, the big success NXT had in developing fresh talent came as a side effect of their stripmining of ROH and the indies. While the plan was to kill the info scene with a touring super indie, he cleared a lot of land for fresh shoots to grow. In hindsight, it's crazy how much their over-aggressive signing only made the scene better. Not necessarily for taking anyone out of it, but for accelerating the cycle of renewal while the indies were in a boom period and access was on a massive upswing. WWE couldn't pull people out fast enough to really hurt anyone, because people filled the vacuum instantly. Every Mania weekend there'd be new names showing up huge, and the ability of the scene to keep finding standouts meant that rather than poaching big stars, they just created a bunch more, and then released them all in a panic. The only real damage Triple H did was to the UK scene, which ended up being on borrowed time anyway given how many of its names were a couple years from a mass sex pest outing.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 16, 2022 14:57:49 GMT -5
NXT under hunter was not producing the kind of talent Vince wanted, at the end of the day. It's funny, the big success NXT had in developing fresh talent came as a side effect of their stripmining of ROH and the indies. While the plan was to kill the info scene with a touring super indie, he cleared a lot of land for fresh shoots to grow. In hindsight, it's crazy how much their over-aggressive signing only made the scene better. Not necessarily for taking anyone out of it, but for accelerating the cycle of renewal while the indies were in a boom period and access was on a massive upswing. WWE couldn't pull people out fast enough to really hurt anyone, because people filled the vacuum instantly. Every Mania weekend there'd be new names showing up huge, and the ability of the scene to keep finding standouts meant that rather than poaching big stars, they just created a bunch more, and then released them all in a panic. The only real damage Triple H did was to the UK scene, which ended up being on borrowed time anyway given how many of its names were a couple years from a mass sex pest outing. They panicked when ITV started trying to make World of Sports a thing when all they needed to do was wait for the combination of Jeff Jarrett giving advice to ITV and wrestlers own stupidity to play out.
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