Tony Khan's shortcomings.

[Nr1Humanoid]

I will always love him and be forever grateful to him for all the wrestling joy and fun he has given in the last 3 years to a slowly dying wrestling heart (at the time) like mine. But every human has flaws, and he is no exception, so I was wondering whatever shortcomings the board thinks he has as a promoter.

To me it is AEW's severe lack of logic, even in an illogical sport like wrestling. Fun as it can be, I yell at the screen like never before as a wrestling viewer.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

Inability to delegate will be his undoing. He's running two sports clubs, booking aew and soon he'll be overseeing ROH as well. He will burn out eventually so needs more people to carry the load.

[jimmycon]

Mar 20, 2022 6:15:56 GMT -5 Nr1Humanoid said:

To me it is AEW's severe lack of logic, even in an illogical sport like wrestling. Fun as it can be, I yell at the screen like never before as a wrestling viewer.

You are of course totally within your rights to have this opinion but I can’t get my head around it. To me AEW is perhaps the promotion that goes out it’s way to make them make sense. Admittedly they don’t always spell it out as well as they could (I think they are sometimes over reluctant in case they stray into spoon feeding the audience territory) but I feel like within the crazy realm of pro wrestling things mostly make sense in AEW

[Super Duper Dragunov]

I've fallen off the bandwagon hard with TK in the last year or so, but I will say he has a mind for wrestling that is in some ways refreshing, but in other ways is so tropey it makes watching the shows difficult anymore.
(Well that and the lord and master of the AEW section has effectively killed the love I once had for the company)

From interviews being constantly interrupted, to not striking on some people while the iron is hot to letting others languish longer than they should, to things not being able to happen organically because it HAS to happen at this time for no reason, to questionable booking decisions (Penta Oscuro comes to mind)...
There doesn't seem to be much of a balance with him. I grown to find him very problematic as a booker.

Granted he's not as insulting, and arrogant as Vince, but I still think a lot of the success and accolades have gone to his head.
Do I think he was Booker of the Year? No. I think Impact did a better job at doing cohesive storytelling and using the talent they have effectively. But that's obviously just opinion.
That being said, he at least always comes off as genuine in media scrums and interviews, so while as a person I want to like him, we then have the stuff like Swole, and allegedly ghosting talent that makes me wonder.

But he has WAYYYYYYY too many people, seemingly not enough delegation, and him being the booker for ROH is a huge ass mistake.

[Tiger Millionaire]

He can't run an NFL Football team.

[Bo Rida]

TK is an interesting case because his negatives are usually flipsides of positives.

It's good he offers a lot of creative freedom but that means some are overindulged while others struggle to stand out in that environment.

It's good he builds meaningful long-term angles but they can drag.

[kingoftheindies]

Tony's biggest shortcoming is he will act emotionally at times. Clearly he is passionate about what he does and I do believe his heart is in the right place, but if he gets a criticism he doesn't like he doesn't always have best reaction.

Now if se are talking creatively? Sometimes just drags things out a bit too long. The payoff is usually really really good, but as we saw with Britt's reign it probably could have been cut by 3 or 4 months.

And I think sometimes he just overstuffed Dynamite a but much to where the main events get paced poorly

[dbrussel]

"To me it is AEW's severe lack of logic, even in an illogical sport like wrestling. Fun as it can be, I yell at the screen like never before as a wrestling viewer."

Damn. You dont watch WWE then?

Last Friday the beast Lesnar was waiting for Roman to get out of the SUV before flipping it. Those are the things make me yell/laugh at the TV.

And for TK, he can insult me, i will clap (same as attitude era Vince)

[THE FVNKER]

Tbh, the only thing I look at with a wince is when he makes announcements on TV. His voice he does when he's on a mic in front of a live crowd for some reason is wild lmao.

Too add to that, I still maintain that they should have a group of a few vets like Tully, Arn, Malenko, Lynn, whoever they've got in the back and have them be a basically non-interferring but authoritative presence, that doesn't make decisions themselves but "consult" with TK and then deliver news on his behalf.

[lucas_lee]

TK is his own worst enemy especially when he's shown to be supremely thin skinned at times. Stuff like that is death by a thousand paper cuts because other than that, he seems to be a stand up guy and a good booker. I do hate everything has to be perfect mentality of booking, because thats virtually impossible with the free-flowing nature of wrestling.

[Citizen Snips Has Left]

I cannot abide rich people who look/dress like slobs. If you got it, flaunt it.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

Tony is far more likeable as a person than Vince is. But his has a LOT to work on. He's fallen for the Dixie Carter TNA when it comes to major announcements and signings. Yes its great to have once in a while but now its been like monthly or every other week we get someone new. No issues with signing talent when they have a ton of use. Now he need to focus on how to get the shows steady at a million+ in viewers weekly without having major announcements or debuts. He has plenty of talent to be able to do that but he has to do better with how he uses them. Instead of signing new talent, use the talent you haven't for months. Brian Cage for example, or Lance Archer again gone MIA. Is Miro still really out?

He needs to have thicker skin when it comes to things. Like when someone criticizes you, he needs to know how to handle that better, and take it as ways he may need to improve on himself as a person or help your product. Does he have a man for wrestling? Yes. He is a good booker? He can be. Other times I question it. The match layouts at times is why we have these spots? Why are spots they should be match enders NOT? Times he needs to ask himself ok do we really need this for the match to be good? Example Thumbtack spots in the cage and with Punk and MJF? Was it needed it? NO. The Cage and the Dog Collar is enough.

We don't need a run in or attacks in every match. He loves to book that too.

[Fade]

Mar 20, 2022 10:17:39 GMT -5 Citizen Snips Has Left said:

I cannot abide rich people who look/dress like slobs. If you got it, flaunt it.

He should borrow Punk’s Pimp Fur Coat.

[oxbaker]

I think he needs someone in a quality control capacity for TV.

By that I mean there should be an agent or producer who has a handle on what every segment is going to be and how every match is planned out.

If one match is going to have blood, probably best if there’s not blood planned in other matches. If one match is going to have big spots with this move or that move, eliminate them from other matches. If one guy has a promo that’s going to go here or there, make sure there’s not a similar promo elsewhere on the show — or not the same type interference/run-ins, or don’t have two factions forming or breaking up (or teasing same) in the same show.

There’s far too much repetition that can be easily avoided and make the stuff that’s supposed to stand out by not diluting it.

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Mar 20, 2022 7:37:57 GMT -5 jimmycon said:

Mar 20, 2022 6:15:56 GMT -5 Nr1Humanoid said:

To me it is AEW's severe lack of logic, even in an illogical sport like wrestling. Fun as it can be, I yell at the screen like never before as a wrestling viewer.

You are of course totally within your rights to have this opinion but I can’t get my head around it. To me AEW is perhaps the promotion that goes out it’s way to make them make sense. Admittedly they don’t always spell it out as well as they could (I think they are sometimes over reluctant in case they stray into spoon feeding the audience territory) but I feel like within the crazy realm of pro wrestling things mostly make sense in AEW

They had a count out on Rampage...99% of the time they do not even count when guys are outside the ring...Hell Punk ran all around the arena and Danielson drinks water bottles during commercial breaks outside the ring. It's the pick and choose of established archetypes that drives me nuts...


but this is about Khan and i agree with the sentiment here that Khan's biggest issues are going to potentially be his social presence and delegation. The fact that multiple people have said they were released from the company without their knowledge regardless of the situation is not a good look.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

Cody's departure made me realize that Tony can sometimes be too conservative in his matchmaking. On one hand, I'm glad he doesn't stray into rematches too often. On the other hand, I feel like Cody left with so many more matches that should've happened whether it be more matches teaming with Dustin or defending the TNT Title against his brother. I just don't want that to happen where another major star leaves with a lot of potential matchups on the table.

[The Ichi]

Well he's not the best at PR and dealing with allegations (Swoles departure and comments about it for example).

It's a learning process though. I'd rather someone be honest to a fault than handle everything with robotic buzzwords.

[markymark]

Mar 20, 2022 10:39:28 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

Tony is far more likeable as a person than Vince is. But his has a LOT to work on. He's fallen for the Dixie Carter TNA when it comes to major announcements and signings. Yes its great to have once in a while but now its been like monthly or every other week we get someone new. No issues with signing talent when they have a ton of use. Now he need to focus on how to get the shows steady at a million+ in viewers weekly without having major announcements or debuts. He has plenty of talent to be able to do that but he has to do better with how he uses them. Instead of signing new talent, use the talent you haven't for months. Brian Cage for example, or Lance Archer again gone MIA. Is Miro still really out?

He needs to have thicker skin when it comes to things. Like when someone criticizes you, he needs to know how to handle that better, and take it as ways he may need to improve on himself as a person or help your product. Does he have a man for wrestling? Yes. He is a good booker? He can be. Other times I question it. The match layouts at times is why we have these spots? Why are spots they should be match enders NOT? Times he needs to ask himself ok do we really need this for the match to be good? Example Thumbtack spots in the cage and with Punk and MJF? Was it needed it? NO. The Cage and the Dog Collar is enough.

We don't need a run in or attacks in every match. He loves to book that too.

Tito Ortiz? Snitsky? Ezekiel Jackson? Al Snow?

Not even close

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Mar 20, 2022 7:38:04 GMT -5 Super Duper Dragunov said:

I've fallen off the bandwagon hard with TK in the last year or so, but I will say he has a mind for wrestling that is in some ways refreshing, but in other ways is so tropey it makes watching the shows difficult anymore.
(Well that and the lord and master of the AEW section has effectively killed the love I once had for the company)

Unfortunately, this is a situation I had to deal with as well forcing me to leave here after 16 years for a few months...become friends with the block button and be diligent about not clicking the "show" for their posts. My biggest issue was even after alerting the individual and mods they continue, to this day, to quote 99% of what I say in retort regardless of what it is. I am polarizing too but at least have the decency to leave someone be when requested.

Even more unfortunate is the entire wrestling scene on both sides is like this right now with fans thinking that the life blood of these companies hinges on their neverending support.

[Mecca]

Mar 20, 2022 6:54:04 GMT -5 The Dark Order Inferno said:

Inability to delegate will be his undoing. He's running two sports clubs, booking aew and soon he'll be overseeing ROH as well. He will burn out eventually so needs more people to carry the load.

In reality unless you're Jerry Jones the owner of a football team isn't part of day to day operations. They hire someone to handle all that, now the Jaguars are guilty of hiring idiots to run their team though.