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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 31, 2022 0:17:28 GMT -5
If asked this question, you can answer with guys like Roddy Piper or Scott Hall, but what about after 2000 when titles were getting switched around more often? I gotta say Cesaro or Shelton Benjamin. Oh and we are counting anyone debuting after 98ish
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 31, 2022 0:36:25 GMT -5
It's easy to forget now but Ryback was crazy f***ing over and they just never saw it through.
Wade Barrett's another one who had everything he ever needed to be champion and they just never went with it.
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Post by rrg251 on Mar 31, 2022 0:47:24 GMT -5
Assuming we are not counting NXT...
Men's: Shinsuke Nakamura - the only man to challenge for a primary title at Wrestlemania since 2000 (actually since Lex Luger in 1994) and not only blow his shot, but never win the title. Also blew opportunities at Summerslam 2017, Greatest Royal Rumble, and others.
Women's: Shayna Baszler - Won the main events at Survivor Series 2019 and Elimination Chamber 2020, yet came up short in Wrestlemania title opportunity and her momentum to date has not recovered.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 0:52:34 GMT -5
For me, it's MVP.
He might not have been the "biggest star" but he's definitely the biggest missed opportunity for a main eventer.
His mic work was always on point, especially as a heel. He should've been John Cena's greatest opponent but the booking killed him.
Nakamura, Ryback, Barrett (Nexus Run) and Kennedy all should've been WWE Champion too.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Mar 31, 2022 1:03:54 GMT -5
If we're going by WWE titles, it's gotta be Matt Hardy, then maybe John Morrison.
If we're going off top titles in any semi-big promotion, probably MVP. Kennedy and Ryback both hit that Ahmed Johnson wall of getting over but flaring out fast by being too unreliable to be trusted with an important spot.
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 31, 2022 1:06:17 GMT -5
Shinsuke Nakamura, without a doubt. You don't give a dude 5 title shots (two of them against Jinder f***in' Mahal) and have him fail them all.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 31, 2022 1:15:33 GMT -5
I do really wonder with Nakamura why on earth they didn't have him win the second match with AJ. It would've made the feud less of a chore if they traded the title back and forth a bit at least, it'd be better than that double countout ball kick bullshit, and it wouldn't have immediately cut Nakamura's heel run off at the knees the way it did, and I kind of doubt they intended at the time for AJ to have the belt for over a year. And even if they did, screw it, that reign sucked ass because the entire story of it was, "AJ keeps beating the same handful of people over and over and over in a bunch of disappointing borefests."
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 31, 2022 1:33:53 GMT -5
Idk about biggest, but I'm always baffled that Umaga never won the thing at least ONE TIME, even if a transitional run.
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Post by government mule on Mar 31, 2022 1:54:43 GMT -5
Samoa Joe
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 31, 2022 2:08:46 GMT -5
Cesaro is my go to... dude got massively over multiple times they never gave him the ball and in fact purposely cut him off at the knees at every chance.
Nakamura is another good one... since you'd figure the entire point of turning heel at mania would be he gets angry and cheats to win the title from AJ... instead... we keeps losing and he basically slips into the midcard... and then when he gets over again they proceed to do... nothing with him.
Ryback is another good one but I think he fizzles out even if they gave him a title... but he was certainly over enough for it.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 31, 2022 2:16:21 GMT -5
I do really wonder with Nakamura why on earth they didn't have him win the second match with AJ. It would've made the feud less of a chore if they traded the title back and forth a bit at least, it'd be better than that double countout ball kick bullshit, and it wouldn't have immediately cut Nakamura's heel run off at the knees the way it did, and I kind of doubt they intended at the time for AJ to have the belt for over a year. And even if they did, screw it, that reign sucked ass because the entire story of it was, "AJ keeps beating the same handful of people over and over and over in a bunch of disappointing borefests." I would have been annoyed, but not felt like it was an absolute catastrophic misuse if Nak had just won some of the matches. Even if he'd not got the belt as a result, you know? He just looked like someone who could not beat AJ ever under any circumstances My vote goes to Shamrock. His run was only brief but he was incredibly over even by the standards of the time and came with the legit tough guy cred that meant people bought him kicking anyone's ass.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 31, 2022 3:06:18 GMT -5
Idk about biggest, but I'm always baffled that Umaga never won the thing at least ONE TIME, even if a transitional run. I feel like if not for his issues it probably would've happened. They did seem to be trying to build him back up at that point, what with him starting to talk, I could see them maybe having him be the one to beat Taker for the belt rather than having him lose it to Jericho.
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Post by msc on Mar 31, 2022 3:34:00 GMT -5
On the current roster - Nakamura, by miles, to the point where it feels like unfinished business.
Otherwise - MVP, Joe (I thought they were setting him up to beat AJ in 2018). An outlier with personal demons admittedly is Chris Masters, who they grooming for it when he was too green, buto once he actually learned to wrestle, they turned him into a jobber.
This time two years ago the answer was Lashley and Drew McIntyre, mind you...
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Post by bob on Apr 1, 2022 17:39:29 GMT -5
Cesaro, Shinsuke Nakamura, Ryback, Barrett (Nexus Run) Mr. Kennedy, MVP, Umaga, Shayna Baszler, Matt Hardy, William Regal, Shelton Benjamin, John Morrison, Rusev/Miro, Samoa Joe
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 1, 2022 17:55:14 GMT -5
It's gotta be Shinsuke. I know a lot of people have been disappointed with his WWE run in-ring wise, but he was still insanely over. And he just looked like a champion.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Apr 1, 2022 18:15:43 GMT -5
Luke Harper. Around the time Wyatt, Orton, and him were feuding.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 1, 2022 18:50:22 GMT -5
So far? Shinsuke Nakamura.
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Post by peaches1 on Apr 1, 2022 18:55:51 GMT -5
Shows how much attention I've paid recently: I assumed Nakamura had been World Champion in WWE because I knew he was a Royal Rumble winner, and usually those guys wind up with the big belts at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 21:12:19 GMT -5
Luke Harper. Around the time Wyatt, Orton, and him were feuding. I still think that match at Mania should've been a Triple Threat. The fans were HOT for Harper around this time and they would've bought him winning the title at Mania.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 1, 2022 21:27:02 GMT -5
For me, it's MVP. He might not have been the "biggest star" but he's definitely the biggest missed opportunity for a main eventer. His mic work was always on point, especially as a heel. He should've been John Cena's greatest opponent but the booking killed him. Nakamura, Ryback, Barrett (Nexus Run) and Kennedy all should've been WWE Champion too. MVP's time was 2009 shortly after the face turn and they shit the bed as they always have.
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