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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Apr 24, 2022 15:22:18 GMT -5
Kenny Doane post-Spirit Squad. I know he blames Cena sabotaging him due to their relationships with Mickie James, but dude's entire gimmick was "he's young and does a good leg drop!"
He wasn't good enough in-ring or on the mic to not have an actual gimmick.
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Post by AKIMan64 on Apr 24, 2022 15:23:46 GMT -5
Ed Leslie from being Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake to a revolving door of characters in WCW (i.e. The Booty Man, The nWo Disciple)
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 24, 2022 16:08:53 GMT -5
Southern Justice. I will take angry, wet hillbillies over generic bodyguards with sunglasses any day of the week. The Godwinns turned a successful repackaging (from goofy pig farms to terrifying rednecks) into an unsuccessful one in what might be record time.
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Post by CMWaters on Apr 24, 2022 16:12:24 GMT -5
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 24, 2022 16:23:38 GMT -5
Alex Wright as Berlyn seemed like it could've been interesting at first but the whole thing was a complete disaster. First they had to delay the debut for months because Columbine happened and Turner people thought his look was too similar to the shooter. He finally debuts and starts a feud with Buff Bagwell. At Fall Brawl they're supposed to have a match but Buff throws a fit backstage and refuses to lose so they kayfabe travel difficulties for him and replace him with Jim Duggan. Duggan completely no sells all of Berlyn's offense though and makes him look like shit in his debut match. Seriously, what did these guys have against him? Was it simply that they thought they were big stars and were above selling for or losing to cruiserweight/"smaller guy" Alex Wright? His next feud is with perennial jobber Brad Armstrong which is already a bad sign. At the very least he's probably a guy who will have no problem doing the job though and will make Berlyn look good. Well no, because WCW books Armstrong to win their match at Halloween Havoc for some reason and the Berlyn character is basically dead in the water already, less than 2 months after debuting. He hangs around for another month or so, long enough for his bodyguard The Wall to ditch him and go get a bigger push than him, then he's removed from TV for almost a year before briefly returning as regular Alex Wright again. Before he was taken off TV due to Columbine, he was shown sitting in the crowd. Larry Zbysco outed him as Wright saying something along the lines of "That's Alex Wright. We all know it's Alex Wright"
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Post by Squirrel Master on Apr 24, 2022 17:32:00 GMT -5
Kenny Doane post-Spirit Squad. I know he blames Cena sabotaging him due to their relationships with Mickie James, but dude's entire gimmick was "he's young and does a good leg drop!" He wasn't good enough in-ring or on the mic to not have an actual gimmick. Who are you to doubt THE TWENTY YEAR OLD KENNY?
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 24, 2022 17:49:52 GMT -5
Alex Wright never paid the dues, that's what is was. Duggan paid the dues before getting to WWF and becoming a star and Bagwell toiled in the lower card, mostly tag scene "paying the dues" before getting a part in NWO with former WWF stars. Within two months of his WCW debut, Alex Wright beat a guy who "paid the dues" with Killer Kowalski's training school (Jean Paul Levesque) and of course total loser jobber Paul Roma, who did pay the dues for years toiling in WWF's lower card. Alex, however, never paid those dues. So I doubt anyone wanted to lose to him or even support him. That's the "business" we support though. Hacksaw is known as a pretty great guy so it really disappoints me he did what he did to Alex.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 24, 2022 20:38:42 GMT -5
Big Cass going from his team up with Enzo to boilerplate hoss.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 24, 2022 20:41:14 GMT -5
Alex Wright as Berlyn seemed like it could've been interesting at first but the whole thing was a complete disaster. First they had to delay the debut for months because Columbine happened and Turner people thought his look was too similar to the shooter. He finally debuts and starts a feud with Buff Bagwell. At Fall Brawl they're supposed to have a match but Buff throws a fit backstage and refuses to lose so they kayfabe travel difficulties for him and replace him with Jim Duggan. Duggan completely no sells all of Berlyn's offense though and makes him look like shit in his debut match. Seriously, what did these guys have against him? Was it simply that they thought they were big stars and were above selling for or losing to cruiserweight/"smaller guy" Alex Wright? His next feud is with perennial jobber Brad Armstrong which is already a bad sign. At the very least he's probably a guy who will have no problem doing the job though and will make Berlyn look good. Well no, because WCW books Armstrong to win their match at Halloween Havoc for some reason and the Berlyn character is basically dead in the water already, less than 2 months after debuting. He hangs around for another month or so, long enough for his bodyguard The Wall to ditch him and go get a bigger push than him, then he's removed from TV for almost a year before briefly returning as regular Alex Wright again. Before he was taken off TV due to Columbine, he was shown sitting in the crowd. Larry Zbysco outed him as Wright saying something along the lines of "That's Alex Wright. We all know it's Alex Wright" Which is so weird because unlike Tony Atlas and Saba Simba, it really looked nothing like Alex Wright. He was a totally new man.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Apr 24, 2022 21:54:41 GMT -5
Van Hammer's hippy gimmick.
I missed his early 90s run so don't hold anything that happened during it against him. He looked the part in The Flock, and he was actually kinda over when he and Juventud Guererra had that anti-Flock odd couple alliance (immortalized in WCW/nWo Revenge, no less).
I wanted to throw his "hey I'm not a hippy anymore and I hate peace" gimmick in there, but as lame as it was it was still a step up from the hippy gimmick.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 24, 2022 23:25:35 GMT -5
Billy Jack Haynes as Black Blood in WCW. Having seen some of his heel work in Portland and Memphis, they would have been better off just having him be heel Billy Jack.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Apr 24, 2022 23:58:44 GMT -5
Billy Jack Haynes as Black Blood in WCW. Having seen some of his heel work in Portland and Memphis, they would have been better off just having him be heel Billy Jack. He looked like a monster and I liked him as a kid. He was from France, so had to be legit. Hole In One Darsow ?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 25, 2022 0:29:58 GMT -5
Billy Jack Haynes as Black Blood in WCW. Having seen some of his heel work in Portland and Memphis, they would have been better off just having him be heel Billy Jack. That’s Billy “Jerk” Haynes.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 25, 2022 0:36:15 GMT -5
Both Basham Brothers when they split them up in a Draft. Doug the Fashion Model, and Danny the... 13 year old Edgelord.
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Post by clodhopper on Apr 25, 2022 8:51:02 GMT -5
I know why they did it but The Boss to Guardian Angel?
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 25, 2022 9:24:23 GMT -5
Hercules as the Super Invader in WCW. Basically just someone to get beat up so Vader wouldn’t have to.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 25, 2022 9:43:54 GMT -5
One Man Gang becoming Akeem The African Dream I dunno. Sure the gimmick was silly, and doesn't hold up today. But it did get him another year of main events, then a run with the world tag team champions.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 25, 2022 9:46:12 GMT -5
Before he was taken off TV due to Columbine, he was shown sitting in the crowd. Larry Zbysco outed him as Wright saying something along the lines of "That's Alex Wright. We all know it's Alex Wright" Which is so weird because unlike Tony Atlas and Saba Simba, it really looked nothing like Alex Wright. He was a totally new man. Which reminds me... SABA SIMBA. Again doesn't hold up, probaby didn't hold up back then, and Atlas got no push from it. However, getting the role did save him from homelessness IRL, apparently. How about Make a Difference Fatu? Or as RSPW used to say, "Fatu makes a difference by jobbing." I do guess it planted the roots 5 years later for what Rikishi would become.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 25, 2022 9:48:11 GMT -5
Billy Jack Haynes as Black Blood in WCW. Having seen some of his heel work in Portland and Memphis, they would have been better off just having him be heel Billy Jack. He looked like a monster and I liked him as a kid. He was from France, so had to be legit. Hole In One Darsow ?This is bad repackaging, not awesome ones. I wonder if BJH knew he'd just be a midcarder and job a lot, so he didn't want to do so under his better known name. Then again that required him to think coherently, and well...
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Post by sungod2020 on Apr 25, 2022 16:51:03 GMT -5
Southern Justice. I will take angry, wet hillbillies over generic bodyguards with sunglasses any day of the week. The Godwinns turned a successful repackaging (from goofy pig farms to terrifying rednecks) into an unsuccessful one in what might be record time. I actually liked the idea of turning them into serious enforcers(of Jeff Jarrett). The problem was, they didn't have time to do anything with them because Mark Canterbury was suffering nagging injuries and had to retire. If it wasn't for that, maybe they could've been a serious threat to the tag team division and finally have a proper tag title run(their first two was a combined total of 9 days). As for my contribution to the thread, I'd nominate Kung Fu Naki.
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