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Post by Larryhausen on Apr 29, 2022 14:50:10 GMT -5
Spoilered link for trigger warnings. This is a heavy read. {Spoiler}https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10228797541710549&id=1448350468
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Post by BK From WV on Apr 29, 2022 20:10:03 GMT -5
That's some terrible stuff. Hopefully, promotions take this seriously and hold off on booking him.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 29, 2022 23:42:39 GMT -5
Chris Dickinson has volunteered to step back from GCW tomorrow night.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 29, 2022 23:59:26 GMT -5
Dude JUST got signed to New Japan, and this happens, it's almost a curse to get bigger in wrestling and "finally get your big break" sometimes isn't it?
That being said, until more comes out, it's really smart to take himself out of upcoming events, because if the accusations are true, he's f***ed. But after Kimber Lee's shit? I'm cautious to believe one side outright here for now.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Apr 30, 2022 0:14:52 GMT -5
But after Kimber Lee's shit? I'm cautious to believe one side outright here for now. I've heard the name before but I'm not familiar with the situation you mention... what happened?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 30, 2022 0:36:24 GMT -5
But after Kimber Lee's shit? I'm cautious to believe one side outright here for now. I've heard the name before but I'm not familiar with the situation you mention... what happened? She's the reason Nash Carter of MSK got released from NXT. She accused him of abuse, assault, and some weird Nazi shit. Then a ton of worse shit came out about her that seemed to debunk some of the stuff she was saying and also put her in a terrible light herself. Not saying Nash was totally innocent but he was made to look like a cut and dry shithead monster WWE reacted before anything came out against Kimber Lee about the situation and Nash got cut.
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Post by Larryhausen on Apr 30, 2022 1:00:47 GMT -5
I've heard the name before but I'm not familiar with the situation you mention... what happened? She's the reason Nash Carter of MSK got released from NXT. She accused him of abuse, assault, and some weird Nazi shit. Then a ton of worse shit came out about her that seemed to debunk some of the stuff she was saying and also put her in a terrible light herself. Not saying Nash was totally innocent but he was made to look like a cut and dry shithead monster WWE reacted before anything came out against Kimber Lee about the situation and Nash got cut. Kimber has had stuff going on for years.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Apr 30, 2022 1:08:32 GMT -5
She's the reason Nash Carter of MSK got released from NXT. She accused him of abuse, assault, and some weird Nazi shit. Then a ton of worse shit came out about her that seemed to debunk some of the stuff she was saying and also put her in a terrible light herself. Not saying Nash was totally innocent but he was made to look like a cut and dry shithead monster WWE reacted before anything came out against Kimber Lee about the situation and Nash got cut. Kimber has had stuff going on for years. And it doesn't mean that Carter wasn't abusive. That's the issue with domestic disputes in a business built around being the biggest liar, who the f*** actually knows what's going on
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Post by pinja on Apr 30, 2022 1:47:03 GMT -5
Nash Carter dressed up as Hitler and that's somehow Kimber Lee's fault?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 30, 2022 5:51:16 GMT -5
Yeah let's be fair here. Nash Carter was released because he took a picture of himself looking like Hitler. From every indication those within WWE (wrestlers and officials) do not buy the abuse allegations but the Hitler thing was pretty cut and dry.
This situation? Again not gonna take sides. Christina levied similar accusations against Masada when they were engaged that ended up being false, but Dickenson had a very toxic relationship with Shanna where things... weren't necessarily abusive but the two brought the worst out of each other.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 30, 2022 8:22:53 GMT -5
I still remember what an actual reckless douche bag he was in the match against Kimber Lee around that same time frame, so this doesn't surprise me at all. youtu.be/wGUGth7iRSY
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Post by noobeast on Apr 30, 2022 8:55:13 GMT -5
Sorry, but this is hard to take seriously from someone who has remained by Joey Ryan's side.
Also interesting to me that these things have this habit of coming out *just* as someone reaches a big milestone in their career.
Social media is a f***ing cancer.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Apr 30, 2022 9:10:54 GMT -5
Sorry, but this is hard to take seriously from someone who has remained by Joey Ryan's side. Also interesting to me that these things have this habit of coming out *just* as someone reaches a big milestone in their career. Social media is a f***ing cancer. I don't think it's surprising someone might feel the need to speak out when their abuser hits some sort of milestone that's going to bring them a lot more attention, and potentially a lot more money. Nothing to do with the veracity of the accusations, but I don't think the timing is suspicious at all.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 30, 2022 9:18:22 GMT -5
I still remember what an actual reckless douche bag he was in the match against Kimber Lee around that same time frame, so this doesn't surprise me at all. youtu.be/wGUGth7iRSY"reckless douche bag" in wrestling doesn't equal "verbally and physically abusive to his girlfriend"
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Post by noobeast on Apr 30, 2022 9:18:45 GMT -5
Sorry, but this is hard to take seriously from someone who has remained by Joey Ryan's side. Also interesting to me that these things have this habit of coming out *just* as someone reaches a big milestone in their career. Social media is a f***ing cancer. I don't think it's surprising someone might feel the need to speak out when their abuser hits some sort of milestone that's going to bring them a lot more attention, and potentially a lot more money. Nothing to do with the veracity of the accusations, but I don't think the timing is suspicious at all. It becomes a lot more suspect when you take into consideration that she's already made false accusations before, and well...her own career is in the gutter due to previous false allegations and her insistence on remaining friends with an actual f***ing abuser. Feels very similar to what just went down with Kimber Lee. That woman ruined a man's career over lies and a decade old joke photo *right* as he was hitting the next level, and her career was dead because of previous false allegations.
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Post by noobeast on Apr 30, 2022 9:30:13 GMT -5
I still remember what an actual reckless douche bag he was in the match against Kimber Lee around that same time frame, so this doesn't surprise me at all. youtu.be/wGUGth7iRSY"reckless douche bag" in wrestling doesn't equal "verbally and physically abusive" Frankly, I don't see anything reckless in that video. She had her arm up for the chair shot (the back of the chair catches her a little on the back of the head, but that's because of her head being lower than it should, nobodies fault, it happens), and she was fully protected on that finish, and took one of the nicer bumps you can take off that move. But, this is the inherent problem with intergender wrestling: There are always going to be those who will take issue with common things simply because of the sex of the performers. I'm not even really blaming people for this, it's something that we're kind of trained to have an aversion to (at least most of us). But, if intergender wrestling is going to be a thing, we have to train ourselves against this line of thinking as it pertains to wrestling.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 30, 2022 10:01:32 GMT -5
"reckless douche bag" in wrestling doesn't equal "verbally and physically abusive" Frankly, I don't see anything reckless in that video. She had her arm up for the chair shot (the back of the chair catches her a little on the back of the head, but that's because of her head being lower than it should, nobodies fault, it happens), and she was fully protected on that finish, and took one of the nicer bumps you can take off that move. But, this is the inherent problem with intergender wrestling: There are always going to be those who will take issue with common things simply because of the sex of the performers. I'm not even really blaming people for this, it's something that we're kind of trained to have an aversion to (at least most of us). But, if intergender wrestling is going to be a thing, we have to train ourselves against this line of thinking as it pertains to wrestling. I'd be complaining about that if it was on a guy too. She barely missed smacking her head on the bottom turnbuckle.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 30, 2022 12:30:56 GMT -5
I don’t believe in taking somebody out of bookings or television for ONE accusation. There has either gotta be proof or multiple accusations. Otherwise if it’s false, the guys career is ruined over bullshit
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 30, 2022 12:40:13 GMT -5
Frankly, I don't see anything reckless in that video. She had her arm up for the chair shot (the back of the chair catches her a little on the back of the head, but that's because of her head being lower than it should, nobodies fault, it happens), and she was fully protected on that finish, and took one of the nicer bumps you can take off that move. But, this is the inherent problem with intergender wrestling: There are always going to be those who will take issue with common things simply because of the sex of the performers. I'm not even really blaming people for this, it's something that we're kind of trained to have an aversion to (at least most of us). But, if intergender wrestling is going to be a thing, we have to train ourselves against this line of thinking as it pertains to wrestling. I'd be complaining about that if it was on a guy too. She barely missed smacking her head on the bottom turnbuckle. So why would it "not surprise you" that he abused his girlfriend just because he's a sloppy, careless wrestler? I don't see the link.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 30, 2022 14:31:01 GMT -5
I'd be complaining about that if it was on a guy too. She barely missed smacking her head on the bottom turnbuckle. So why would it "not surprise you" that he abused his girlfriend just because he's a sloppy, careless wrestler? I don't see the link. I'm linking the undercurrent of him being super misogynistic in general and dismissive of women's wrestling in those allegations with him working like a total dick in that Kimber match. He didn't just look sloppy, he looked like he actively didn't give a shit if she got hurt. Scratch a misogynist, an abuser bleeds.
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