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Post by lucas_lee on May 11, 2022 8:53:47 GMT -5
Honestly, of all the various Bruce Lee homages/ripoffs in fighting games and such over time, Fei Long always felt like the... lowest effort? For as many cultural stereotypes and shameless ripoffs of other media there are in early Street Fighter, he's damn near just a 1:1 translation and I agree that he was always kind of the least interesting of the SF2/SSF2 cast. Will be curious if they attempt to enforce this in terms of more indirect things like all the various imitators of his kiai, from Kenshiro to Liu Kang, or if it's for more direct portrayals only. Fei Long would fit into the Brucesploitation genre of the late 70s thats for sure
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Post by wildojinx on May 11, 2022 10:15:15 GMT -5
Is Boruto still being produced? If so, Rock Lee (not sure if he's shown up yet) may end up being a casualty of this as well.
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Post by chrom on May 11, 2022 10:21:23 GMT -5
Is Boruto still being produced? If so, Rock Lee (not sure if he's shown up yet) may end up being a casualty of this as well. Never see Rock Lee or his green spandex outfit again?
Eh, I can live with that.
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Post by Cyno on May 11, 2022 11:11:48 GMT -5
Liu Kang's become distinct enough where I don't think it will become an issue.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 11, 2022 11:29:08 GMT -5
I think I literally have played him one time.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on May 11, 2022 11:30:45 GMT -5
Maybe its because I'm an American, but the idea of being told you can't parody a public figure just offends me to my core.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on May 11, 2022 11:35:39 GMT -5
yeah definitely NOT A GOOD ENOUGH REASON for that to happen or just grow his hair out and make him a jackie chan lookalike
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Post by chrom on May 11, 2022 11:36:13 GMT -5
Maybe its because I'm an American, but the idea of being told you can't parody a public figure just offends me to my core. Fei Long isn't even a parody of him
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Post by JIMBOB on May 11, 2022 11:39:02 GMT -5
I get the feeling this is very much due to the portrayal of Bruce Lee in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Lee's wife and daughter has been outspoken about his portrayal in it. So now the Lee family will tow a harder line on media portrayals. Did the family ever give their thoughts on his portrayal in Birth of the Dragon?
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 11, 2022 11:50:06 GMT -5
I never had an inkling that Fei-Long was portrayed as a comedic character. If this recent change is some residual fallout from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (never said in the article, just a feeling), then I can see why Fei Long might not make the cut; being a bit player in a game like Street Fighter isn't exactly "honorable". If it is what I think it is, and the Lee estate is moving in more of a "keep Bruce Lee strong" direction, I can see why they may move away from depictions that don't treat his legacy deadly serious, even more innocuous ones like this one. Liu Kang I'm not worried about, he's about as removed from Bruce Lee at this point as Sonya Blade and Johnny Cage are from Cynthia Rothrock and Van Damme. Can't speak to the Laws because I don't play Tekken like that, but I can't imagine Fei Long being a huge loss for Street Fighter fans. As for other "non-serious depictions" of Bruce Lee, how many are there in 2022? Bruceploitation hit its ceiling decades ago, most of the successful characters that came out of that have enough canon and mythology to comfortably separate themselves from Lee himself (Liu Kang, Kenshiro, Shang-Chi). Any one-to-one Bruce Lee expys would just feel like a dated reference. Remember, the character this thread is about made his debut in a game featuring a wrestler billed from the USSR.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 11, 2022 12:31:31 GMT -5
I get the feeling this is very much due to the portrayal of Bruce Lee in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Lee's wife and daughter has been outspoken about his portrayal in it. So now the Lee family will tow a harder line on media portrayals. Did the family ever give their thoughts on his portrayal in Birth of the Dragon? Nothing pleasant
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Post by chazraps on May 11, 2022 12:34:32 GMT -5
Just put Fei Long in a mask. Problem solved.
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Post by Dub H on May 11, 2022 12:49:51 GMT -5
I think I literally have played him one time. I dont think he was a particurarly popular character. If no one had said anything about him never appearing people probably wouldnt even notice Edit: ok according to popularity pool ,he wa ranked 19th which was definitely a notable placement, but still that list seems very different than what I would expect overall,maybe i'm just out of touch with the SF community
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 11, 2022 13:09:21 GMT -5
Honestly, of all the various Bruce Lee homages/ripoffs in fighting games and such over time, Fei Long always felt like the... lowest effort? For as many cultural stereotypes and shameless ripoffs of other media there are in early Street Fighter, he's damn near just a 1:1 translation and I agree that he was always kind of the least interesting of the SF2/SSF2 cast. Will be curious if they attempt to enforce this in terms of more indirect things like all the various imitators of his kiai, from Kenshiro to Liu Kang, or if it's for more direct portrayals only. Fei Long would fit into the Brucesploitation genre of the late 70s thats for sure I mean in Universe he IS a Bruce-Sploitation Actor. Bruce Lee exists in the Street Fighter universe... Fei Long mentions him. Also it seems kinda weird we're taking the Composers word on this.
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Post by agent817 on May 11, 2022 13:20:55 GMT -5
Honestly, of all the various Bruce Lee homages/ripoffs in fighting games and such over time, Fei Long always felt like the... lowest effort? For as many cultural stereotypes and shameless ripoffs of other media there are in early Street Fighter, he's damn near just a 1:1 translation and I agree that he was always kind of the least interesting of the SF2/SSF2 cast. Will be curious if they attempt to enforce this in terms of more indirect things like all the various imitators of his kiai, from Kenshiro to Liu Kang, or if it's for more direct portrayals only. What about Marshall and Forest Law?
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Post by Hit Girl on May 11, 2022 13:32:57 GMT -5
Fei Long has always been a pretty respectful homage to Bruce Lee, but if the family object now, then the character should be dropped.
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Post by Cyno on May 11, 2022 14:48:28 GMT -5
This isn't even the first time this happened with Street Fighter. Like, the boxer's original name is M. Bison as he was meant as a parody of Mike Tyson. They changed it to Balrog to avoid getting in trouble with Tyson's people.
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Post by The Ichi on May 11, 2022 14:55:05 GMT -5
Didn't Bruce Lee just have a fairly comedic portrayal in a Tarrantino movie?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 11, 2022 14:55:13 GMT -5
This isn't even the first time this happened with Street Fighter. Like, the boxer's original name is M. Bison as he was meant as a parody of Mike Tyson. They changed it to Balrog to avoid getting in trouble with Tyson's people. And turns out Mike himself only learned about Balrog/M. Bison only like 2-3 years ago and he loved it.
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Post by JIMBOB on May 11, 2022 14:56:38 GMT -5
Didn't Bruce Lee just have a fairly comedic portrayal in a Tarrantino movie? Yes, and that’s why his family has allegedly taken this position now.
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