If there was a WWF v WCW supercard in summer 1998

[Jindrak Mark]

What would the card look like and who would go over?

For the purposes of this exercise you can assume that Vince and Bischoff somehow sat in a room together, booked the show, signed off on it and were happy that it would be mutually beneficial for both. And I'm going with mid 1998 because that was probably when they were closest, numbers wise. Before that WCW was comfortably ahead and soon after WWF would shoot way past them and never look back.

Austin v Goldberg
I don't think there can be any other main event. Vince and Bischoff are at ringside cheering on their respective company's guy despite Austin and Goldberg wanting no part of their support. This is the one match I don't think either side would allow their guy to lose clean so Vince's hatred for Austin ends up getting the better of him and he eventually does something to distract or screw over Austin, allowing Goldberg to hit the spear and jackhammer for the win. After the match Austin stuns Vince and Bischoff and he and Goldberg beat up a bunch of Vince's goons and low-level NWO guys and share a beer to end the show. Maybe you get Bischoff to agree to let Austin stun Goldberg and stand tall since Goldberg got to win the match and added Austin's name to the streak.

Undertaker v Sting
Not a lot to say about this one. The dream match actually happens. I think Undertaker probably wins here seeing as WCW won the main event.

DX v The Outsiders
DX being HHH & HBK. Kinda cheating here as Hall had turned heel on Nash and HBK was "retired" a few months earlier but in this alternate reality the Outsiders don't break up and HBK is able to work this match. X-Pac is on commentary and it's teased who he'll side with but in the end he doesn't get involved. Outsiders win then they all embrace and do another curtain call type thing.

Mankind & Vince McMahon v Hollywood Hogan & Eric Bischoff
As weird as it sounds, I didn't know what to do with Hogan. Austin is busy with the Goldberg match, Rock isn't yet big enough for that to be the dream match and Hogan is too big a name to not be on the card so this is the best I could come up with. Foley is still doing his desperate to be accepted by Vince thing that he spent most of 1998 doing. Vince is booked to get the better of Bischoff when they're in the ring together because of course he would be but Hogan and Bischoff win when either a) Mankind gets tired of Vince bossing him around and Mr. Sockos him or b) if you can get Bret Hart to agree to appear he comes out and beats the shit out of Vince, leaving Mankind alone and he falls victim to the leg-drop.

The Rock v DDP
People's champ v people's champ. I can already hear Rock calling DDP trailer park trash. Rock is technically still a heel at the time so he uses some underhanded tactic to get the win.

New Age Outlaws v The Steiners
Rewriting history again because the Steiners broke up earlier in the year but hey, this isn't real. Steiners probably stiff the hell out of Mr. Dogg and Mr. Ass and get the win.

Kane v The Giant
Kane was too strong in 1998 and Giant wasn't doing a lot so Kane wins.

Taka Michinoku v Rey Mysterio
Vince gave no shits about his cruiserweight division so he'd have no problem giving WCW this one.

Ken Shamrock v Raven
Raven's rules match. Shamrock manages to fight off The Flock and makes Raven tap.

Owen Hart v Chris Benoit
I'd probably have had Benoit win but I want it to end 5-5 overall with neither company really coming out on top so Owen takes this one.

There's still a decent amount of names I couldn't fit in, especially WCW guys. Their roster was way too stacked. Bret not in a match. Savage, Luger, Piper, Jericho, Booker, Saturn, Eddie, Malenko, the rest of the cruiserweights, Chyna, Goldust, Jarrett, D-Lo, Val Venis, LOD, Vader, etc. And Sable was one of the biggest stars at the time so you'd try to find a role for her too.

[thecrusherwi]

Interesting idea. That looks like a fun card. I cannot see any way that Goldberg and Austin would end in any sort of fall, even with a distraction. I would have Austin lose by cracking Goldberg with a chair or something and getting DQ'ed. Keeps Goldberg's undefeated streak and fits Austin's character. Goldberg can say he beat Austin and Austin can say he kicked Goldberg's ass. Afterwards, Goldberg can pop up and they do a pull apart brawl that leads to a WCW vs WWF brawl as we go off the air. That's the only way to feasibly do it. Each company would be insane to let their guy take the L in 1998. Hell I wouldn't even let them use their finishers.

[tafkaga]

The idea of Undertaker beating Sting clean makes me ill.

[Celexa Bliss 54]

OK, so it's not a supercard, but at one point, I had mapped out a cross-promotional angle between the WWF, WCW and ECW that would've run from Unforgiven 98 (the April PPV, remember) until WrestleMania 15. I don't remember specifics, but a few things I remember planning:

- DX are invited into the arena on that fateful episode of Nitro and it's played like they're part of the nWo, with Hall and Nash handing them t-shirts and giving X-Pac his old 6-Pac t-shirt. Hall and Nash later appear on Raw and outright join DX, wearing the t-shirts and everything. Nash "shoots" on Hogan and Bischoff. At Slamboree, DX arrive at the arena, supposedly on Vince McMahon's orders, but are arrested. Eventually, we get some cross-promotional matches, with the New Age Outlaws winning the WCW Tag Titles from Sting and Bret Hart (after Hall and Nash are "fired", a match is made for Slamboree, with Sting and Bret beating The Giant and The Disciple for the titles, and DX (Triple H, X-Pac, Hall and Nash) defeating Hogan, Savage, Giant and Disciple in WarGames.

- Ric Flair shows up on Raw in June and aligns with Shamrock, Severn and Owen as a group that is NOT the Horsemen, but it quickly falls apart, with Owen joining the Nation and segueing into the storyline that actually happened

- Sandman and Mikey Whipwreck end up joining Raven's Flock in the feud with Saturn and Kanyon (who join forces, instead of Kanyon hooking up with Raven)

- The New Midnight Express win the ECW Tag Team Titles after making a surprise appearance at Heatwave, defeating Candido and Storm, who had just faced each other and RVD for the TV Title

- At some point, Owen walks out of the WWF and spends three months just having dream matches with guys like Benoit, RVD, Storm, Jericho, Eddie, Malenko, Rey, etc., before eventually returning to team with the now-perpetually pissed off Jeff Jarrett

- Simmons and Scorpio become a legit force in the tag division, because I have some weird desire for that team to be a thing lol

- Eventually, things round back to how the real world was running, with The Dudleys beating The Midnight Express at November to Remember to regain the ECW Tag Titles, Hall and Nash returning to WCW and Nash ending The Streak at Starrcade (which ends the main part of WCW's involvement), and all other loose ends being tied up on the Mania undercard (using the Mania 15 card I've long fantasy-booked: Rock/Austin, Foley/Big Show, Undertaker/Shane HIAC, DX/Corporation elimination rules, and Brood/Ministry as the top matches).

I never said the idea was GOOD lol but it was a fun little thing to fantasy book

[repomark]

As you would only be one year removed from the screw job, it would be an open goal to have Bret Hart heavily involved. I would probably go down the Invasion route of WCW vs WWF tag match and have Bret cost WWF the match somehow. Perhaps he is the guest ref having been appointed by Vince or something (this would require some story development where they appear to reconcile beforehand).

Bret says “Vince screwed Vince” at the end, roll credits.

This then sets up a proper mania Bret v Vince match where both guys can actually wrestle.

[tirtefaa]

Austin vs. Hogan
Undertaker and Kane vs. Hall and Nash
Shamrock vs. Goldberg
Rock vs. Sting
Mankind vs. Raven
Triple H, X-Pac, Gunn and Road Dogg vs. Flair, Malenko, Benoit and McMichael
Goldust vs. DDP
O. Hart vs. B. Hart
V. McMahon (w Stephanie) vs. Savage
Jarrett vs. S. Steiner
Edge and Christian vs. Harlem Heat
Test vs. Luger
Blackman vs. Meng
Michinoku vs. Jericho

Set up; We have a true supershow where both shows are allowed to use the other shows talent leading up to the event. The main story is the nWo (we'll ignore the Wolf Pac for now) does a run in on the WWF claiming that since they've essentially conquered WCW, they're coming for WWF. Vince being concerned about this tries to use his corporate stooges, but they all get taken out. Vince forms an uneasy alliance with Austin, which then grows to include Undertaker and Kane. We're keeping the nWo simple for now, so basically the original three and Savage. It essentially breaks down with Hogan going after Austin, the Outsiders going after the BOD and Savage taunting Vince. For the other matches, I think Shamrock and Goldberg both going on a tear trying to prove who the ultimate badass is. Rock mocks Sting who proceeds to stalk him and freak him out. Raven tries to convince Mankind to join the Flock. D-X goes after the Horseman for being 'fossils'. Bret tries to convince Owen to join him in WCW while Owen tries to convince Bret to come back and they decide the loser must join the winner. Goldust stalks Kimberly and gets DDP upset. Scott Steiner tells the truth by brutally mocking Jarrett's lack of success no matter where he goes. Harlem Heat are scared of vampires. Luger and Test just decide to fight for pride or something. Blackman and Meng get into a hardcore scuffle that escalates. Jericho shows he's impressed at TAKA, but that Y2J is still better. The Giant smokes cigarettes at ringside.

Winners:
Hogan (pinfall via V. McMahon interference)
Undertaker and Kane
Goldberg (pinfall)
Sting
Mankind (pinfall)
D-X/Four Horseman (Double DQ)
B. Hart (submission)
V. McMahon (pinfall via Austin interference)
Goldust (DQ)
S. Steiner (pinfall)
Harlem Heat (pinfall)
Luger (pinfall)
Blackman (pinfall)
Jericho (pinfall via E. Guerrero interference)

Essentially, it is revealed that Vince is the one that is truly behind the nWo and he will now be able to use them to eliminate Austin.

[ChitownKnight]

Probably better to do it a year later, cuz I doubt they would do a Stone Cold vs Goldberg Match and Hogan vs Austin and Rock vs Goldberg would be way more plausible:

Hogan vs Austin
Rock vs Goldberg
Bret vs Vince (you have to do this after the screwjob)
Outsiders Vs DX
Benoit vs Mankind
Eddie vs Jericho
Rey vs XPac

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Austin vs. Goldberg sounds like it would have been a spectacle in 1998, but the reality is that it probably would have been a disaster. Goldberg was hard-hitting at best and reckless at worst in his rookie year, and Austin was physically a wreck for his entire run following Summerslam 1997. It's hard for me to imagine Austin agreeing to take much of Goldberg's offense, and nobody really wants to see Goldberg sell for much of anything either. Essentially, it's a match where almost no offense can really happen. You'd be better off having them team together or something.

[GodzillaIsMyMonster]

Hogan VS Austin has to happen on a theoretical super show.


But Hogan has to win.

[fg]

May 15, 2022 15:53:38 GMT -5 GodzillaIsMyMonster said:

Hogan VS Austin has to happen on a theoretical super show.


But Hogan has to win.

Hogan losing to the younger and more popular Austin ain’t going to work for him brother.

[thegame415]

Your card is awesome. I like it a lot.

[Aceorton]

Tiger Ali Singh vs. Prince Iaukea
Southern Justice vs. Scott Norton and Vincent
Kurrgan vs. Mike Enos

That's it. That's the whole show.