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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2022 12:53:05 GMT -5
Kenny's still only 20, I think he can still bounce back from it.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on May 15, 2022 13:56:50 GMT -5
Reading up on these 5 green guys, apparently Elijah Burke was suppose to be a member, but turned it down.
That would've been interesting.
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Post by Squirrel Master on May 15, 2022 15:20:57 GMT -5
DX were the drizzling shits, stupidity at it finest. Shawn Michaels was high as a kite in their segments, you could see tweety birds circling around his head. Although the Spirit Squad were better than DX in the goof-children role , no one ever thought they’d ever win. OVW had its own minor-league scene going on, and OVW wrestling wasn’t horrible, so the inside “joke” must’ve been funny to someone…
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Post by chrom on May 15, 2022 15:29:06 GMT -5
Yep. And it's only like the 25th-worst Triple H burial What's the 24th?
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Post by Cyno on May 15, 2022 15:52:57 GMT -5
I still think it's funny that everyone had Kenny or Johnny pegged as the breakout stars of the group. But it ended up being Nicky aka Dolph Ziggler. Dolph came back with a totally new character two years later. Kenny was back on TV not that long after and never got the stink of the Squad off him. Didn't help that "Kenny Dykstra" was also boring as sin. Granted his OVW Randy Orton cosplayer gimmick would've never made it to WWE proper either.
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Post by rrg251 on May 15, 2022 16:01:14 GMT -5
As a group, no. Individual careers were still salvageable, but not without repackaging (no pun intended).
Besides, I thought then and think now that it made for a funny gag.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on May 15, 2022 16:26:53 GMT -5
The writing was not only on the wall, it had been engraved into it by that point. Maybe you think it's harsh, but the fact is, once they were separated from Vince, they served no purpose. At least when they were being touted as Vince's handpicked male cheerleaders, they served a function as his personal cheering section (which they didn't even do that often) and his goons (which they unfortunately did while they held the World Tag Team Titles). But for the last two months they existed, they were just five guys in green costumes screaming and carrying on with no purpose or direction.
I've said this before, but I did a fantasy rebooking a few years back of WWE in fall of 2006 and in it, I transitioned them into frat boys after they lost the titles. Just... something. The cheerleader gimmick had no legs whatsoever by the end. And the fact that it killed Johnny Jeter's career is another reason I can't forgive this gimmick lol
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Post by jason1980s on May 15, 2022 16:35:34 GMT -5
I'm sure they were seen as guys who didn't pay the dues and things were probably at an all time high with a crappy backstage atmosphere with Benoit, Bradshaw, Holly, Taker being around so I can't see them lasting long unless the pay those dues, maybe going in front of wrestlers court, doing 500 hindu squats, buying the roster beers one night!
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Post by oxbaker on May 15, 2022 16:51:32 GMT -5
Yes it was too harsh on a non-kayfabe, real level.
On the other hand, I don’t think I was alone in getting so far past tired of a bunch of male cheerleaders doing run-ins for what seemed like every Raw main event for weeks and months (heck, it felt like years) on end.
So at the time I think a lot of people were probably like ‘as long as they’re gone I don’t care what it takes.’
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Post by Limity (BLM) on May 15, 2022 17:19:49 GMT -5
Definitely too harsh. I was a steady watcher back then, and I loved to hate the Spirit Squad. They had good gimmick based multi man moves, and I think they were just starting to somewhat align with Vince and become his go to heels.
If anything, I wish DX had gone to OVW, and that Triple H would never have returned.
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Post by saneiac on May 15, 2022 19:36:34 GMT -5
Hated DX in 2006. So much cringeworthy stuff. But I can’t get too worked up about a harsh burial for the Spirit Squad. It was trash. And Dolph recovered fine. I don’t think any of the other guys would’ve been long term stars if they didn’t get stuffed in a box that said OVW on it. I remember really liking Johnny Jeter because he did a corkscrew kick, but otherwise... Johnny was capable of more than just that kick, but it seems to be a Vince thing that whenever there's a big stable of unknowns, each member gets to do one signature move and nothing else. Los Boricuas and the first few months of The Nexus (other than Wade Barrett) got the same treatment.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 15, 2022 20:48:04 GMT -5
I honestly thought there were a few good Spirit Squad segments. I think it might be the WM 22 match they got involved in but there's a moment where they've laid HBK out and they all start doing this stupid goddamned dancing in a completely uncoordinated way and one of them scoots along the ring on his ass like a dog which carries it to a five star moment. That might be it in terms of good moments come to think of it, but a good moment nonetheless.
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Post by Dang! on May 16, 2022 14:49:18 GMT -5
DX 2006 is some of the worst wrestling television to have ever made it to air DX 2006 was pure Boomercringe. Two balding old guys pretending to be teenage rebels while burying all the young talent and circlejerking all over TV. THE worst.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on May 16, 2022 15:42:47 GMT -5
DX 2006 is some of the worst wrestling television to have ever made it to air DX 2006 was pure Boomercringe. Two balding old guys pretending to be teenage rebels while burying all the young talent and circlejerking all over TV. THE worst. Sure is easy to get insider digs in, when you're the only people who won't get in trouble for making insider digs! Lookit how cool they are, they're breaking all the rules, because they got permission from the boss to break all the rules.
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Post by Burst on May 16, 2022 15:48:14 GMT -5
I'm sure they were seen as guys who didn't pay the dues and things were probably at an all time high with a crappy backstage atmosphere with Benoit, Bradshaw, Holly, Taker being around so I can't see them lasting long unless the pay those dues, maybe going in front of wrestlers court, doing 500 hindu squats, buying the roster beers one night! Come to think of it, 2006-era WWE might be the high water mark for most toxic backstage environment for all the personalities you mentioned being there and at the... I don't want to say height of their powers, but certainly at a time they were all their most active as competitors and thus always there week to week. But yeah, I actually think 2006 DX just barely beats out 2010 DX for cringe factor and unwatchability, though the latter did give us Little People's Court...
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 16, 2022 15:49:55 GMT -5
The Spirit Squad gimmick was basically a dead end. As much as a lot of the people involved put into it that's kinda all you're going to be unless you go off TV and come back later with a completely different look and gimmick. Lampshading it on screen was unnecessary... that's literally the only way the Spirit Squad ended. I still think it's funny that everyone had Kenny or Johnny pegged as the breakout stars of the group. But it ended up being Nicky aka Dolph Ziggler. Dolph came back with a totally new character two years later. Kenny was back on TV not that long after and never got the stink of the Squad off him. John Jeter showed up a few times too...
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Post by msc on May 16, 2022 15:54:12 GMT -5
The gimmick was the Red Rooster of the 00s. Two of them weren't that good, two were put on the main roster too soon, and the fifth eventually turned out to be Dolph Ziggler.
They saw enough in Kenny to give him another try (again, he was too early to go on the roster) but Johnny Jeter, who was the diamond in the rough future prospect of that class in developmental, he was dead in the water, career wise.
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Post by eJm on May 16, 2022 15:57:00 GMT -5
Spirit Squad is just an example of why care should be taken with gimmicks and proposals.
A good gimmick, obviously, can make someone a star. A bad gimmick might hinder someone but could be redeemed with the right tweaking and work. A terrible gimmick can basically be the end of someone's credible career.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 16, 2022 16:01:09 GMT -5
forgot DX came back in 2010 too. What year was the Network launched? because that might take the award for worst post 97 DX moment.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 16, 2022 16:03:15 GMT -5
Spirit Squad is just an example of why care should be taken with gimmicks and proposals. A good gimmick, obviously, can make someone a star. A bad gimmick might hinder someone but could be redeemed with the right tweaking and work. A terrible gimmick can basically be the end of someone's credible career. It's what I like pointing out when everyone says Vince Russo always had something for everyone to do... Yeah, and a lot of the things he had people doing were terrible and either killed or put a massive ceiling on careers...
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