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Post by kingoftheindies on May 30, 2022 9:14:03 GMT -5
The more that comes out I think there are two likely scenarios.
One is that MJF has been working and doing everything he can to keep buzz on his name, but this weekend was thr breaking point on the AEW side
Or
Two MJF is dealing with burnout or other mental health issues at this time
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Post by Ryushinku on May 30, 2022 9:18:25 GMT -5
Hager, I guess? Is he the most “legit” toughie they got? You mean other than former UFC competitor CM Punk?! He started scuttling towards MJF and it terrified him into running out there.
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Post by Rican on May 30, 2022 9:21:35 GMT -5
Unless it’s a mental health issue MJF is starting to look like more trouble than he’s worth for any company. Unless there’s something big we don’t know about I really can’t fathom what he has to be so damn mad about with his standing in AEW, especially when he’s got a whole two years left on the deal. And even if it is a work on his end or whatever…that’s just outright obnoxious. Like fine play the character up in interviews or whatever but no showing a signing and detracting from the big angle you’ve been working on for months is just shitty.
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Post by Kalmia on May 30, 2022 9:32:58 GMT -5
I don't think something can still be considered a work when only one person is involved in it. In that case, I think it's called being a dick. if MJF really is just working everyone, including AEW and Tony Khan, that's pretty crappy. A company has to be able to trust in its top guys to do what's right (just as much as the worker has to trust the company to do right by them) and how can AEW trust someone who pulls this on them? At least tell Tony or someone first.
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Post by oxbaker on May 30, 2022 9:35:13 GMT -5
Unless it’s a mental health issue MJF is starting to look like more trouble than he’s worth for any company. Unless there’s something big we don’t know about I really can’t fathom what he has to be so damn mad about with his standing in AEW, especially when he’s got a whole two years left on the deal. And even if it is a work on his end or whatever…that’s just outright obnoxious. Like fine play the character up in interviews or whatever but no showing a signing and detracting from the big angle you’ve been working on for months is just shitty. See, Maxwell T. Friedman, the person, believes he’s outperformed his contract and deserves a pay bump. But he knows how these things work and is willing to work it out with Tony Khan. But MJF, the character, well that’s a whole other story. He is completely dissatisfied with his kayfabe AEW contract. Those scarves don’t grow on trees and they come out of his salary. He’s mad as hell and he’s not going to take it anymore. Max, the person, is always in character. As noted, he’s a method actor. So you can’t penalize Maxwell T. Friedman for the actions of the character. If MJF’s character would skip a meet and greet or even a huge PPV event, well, that’s how Max the person has to play it. He doesn’t have any choice, really, if he’s going to stay true to the character. The phone that wasn’t being answered belongs to MJF, not Maxwell T. Friedman — he probably doesn’t even have the passcode to answer calls. If you look at it like that, it makes complete sense. /s
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Post by Square on May 30, 2022 10:01:53 GMT -5
SRS is paid by tony khan ? That’s news to me. He’s not, ignore him. EDIT: Unless he subscribes to his Patreon then, in that case, totally and technically true. This is what someone on the Khan payroll would say. How did you afford that new bling Mr JM?!
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Post by Dub H on May 30, 2022 10:10:01 GMT -5
Alvarez basically Sid the whole airplane thing was not correct but that SRS legitely thought it was ,so that's even more confusing
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on May 30, 2022 10:27:46 GMT -5
Alvarez basically Sid the whole airplane thing was not correct but that SRS legitely thought it was ,so that's even more confusing Alvarez always gets stuff wrong tbf. SRS said he has an incredibly reliable source and he saw the ticket. Apparently the ticket cost over 2 grand.
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Post by Dub H on May 30, 2022 10:33:31 GMT -5
Alvarez basically Sid the whole airplane thing was not correct but that SRS legitely thought it was ,so that's even more confusing Alvarez always gets stuff wrong tbf. SRS said he has an incredibly reliable source and he saw the ticket. Apparently the ticket cost over 2 grand. Dave pointed out that the supposed ticket was to NEWARK, which doesnt make sense because he doesnt live near there. Alvarez version: SRS saw evidence a flight had been booked, it was an actual flight. Somebody saw and said to Alvarez that MJF wasnt booked to any flights(except for after the PPV). And that his original after-ppv flight would have been Canceled if he did book another flight He also again hammered down the Meet & Greet wasnt a work.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on May 30, 2022 11:13:59 GMT -5
Alvarez always gets stuff wrong tbf. SRS said he has an incredibly reliable source and he saw the ticket. Apparently the ticket cost over 2 grand. Dave pointed out that the supposed ticket was to New York, which doesnt make sense because he doesnt live near there. Alvarez version: SRS saw evidence a flight had been booked, it was an actual flight. Somebody saw and said to Alvarez that MJF wasnt booked to any flights(except for after the PPV). And that his original after-ppv flight would have been Canceled if he did book another flight He also again hammered down the Meet & Greet wasnt a work. Man this whole thing is a damn mess lol. A confusing one at that. I genuinely have no clue what to believe that this point. I definitely don't believe it's a work but I have no idea what MJF is doing.
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Post by Burst on May 30, 2022 11:18:19 GMT -5
Walking a fine line here in terms of speculating, but the sheer convolutedness of everything does make me feel burnout/MH issues are far more probable than any combination of intentional works/shoots/worked shoots. For how confusing it is and how many conflicting stories there are, it just feels way too erratic for someone who's otherwise come off as very deliberate with his actions, even when heeling it up online or otherwise off of TV.
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Post by Kalmia on May 30, 2022 12:14:30 GMT -5
I think regardless of whether it was a work that only MJF knew about or not, the ending of the DON match should have him written off TV for at least a couple of weeks. Hopefully, that's enough time and distance for all sides to figure something out that makes everyone happy and will let the heat die down on it a little. Either get MJF and AEW on the same side or just cut your loses.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 30, 2022 12:31:04 GMT -5
Alvarez always gets stuff wrong tbf. SRS said he has an incredibly reliable source and he saw the ticket. Apparently the ticket cost over 2 grand. Dave pointed out that the supposed ticket was to New York, which doesnt make sense because he doesnt live near there. Alvarez version: SRS saw evidence a flight had been booked, it was an actual flight. Somebody saw and said to Alvarez that MJF wasnt booked to any flights(except for after the PPV). And that his original after-ppv flight would have been Canceled if he did book another flight He also again hammered down the Meet & Greet wasnt a work. It was allegedly to NEWARK, not New York... the two major New York airports are technically on Long Island. (well Queens but... geographically speaking)
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Post by lucas_lee on May 30, 2022 12:32:18 GMT -5
On Observer Radio, Meltzer and Alvarez note that it was not a work, but the MJF showing up at the building at the last second was a work. Basically, they know that Tony Khan would have had to have given him an ultimatum about showing up at some point in the afternoon. Once an agreement was made, showing up at the last minute was part of it. They think he’ll be back. I hate working the boys bit too. Come on thats carry as hell.
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Post by Dub H on May 30, 2022 12:34:58 GMT -5
Dave pointed out that the supposed ticket was to New York, which doesnt make sense because he doesnt live near there. Alvarez version: SRS saw evidence a flight had been booked, it was an actual flight. Somebody saw and said to Alvarez that MJF wasnt booked to any flights(except for after the PPV). And that his original after-ppv flight would have been Canceled if he did book another flight He also again hammered down the Meet & Greet wasnt a work. It was allegedly to NEWARK, not New York... the two major New York airports are technically on Long Island. (well Queens but... geographically speaking) Oh my bad ,I'm not US native and had no idea Newark was a place,so I assume New York,i`m gonna fix it. Either way MJF should take some time off for mental health and think what he wants from his life.
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Post by nate5054 on May 30, 2022 13:03:45 GMT -5
Hager, I guess? Is he the most “legit” toughie they got? You mean other than former UFC competitor CM Punk?! If this isn't intimidating, I don't know what is:
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Post by Dub H on May 30, 2022 13:06:27 GMT -5
You mean other than former UFC competitor CM Punk?! If this isn't intimidating, I don't know what is: Punk was ahead the whole time
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on May 30, 2022 13:12:05 GMT -5
You mean other than former UFC competitor CM Punk?! If this isn't intimidating, I don't know what is:
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 30, 2022 13:27:16 GMT -5
It was allegedly to NEWARK, not New York... the two major New York airports are technically on Long Island. (well Queens but... geographically speaking) Oh my bad ,I'm not US native and had no idea Newark was a place,so I assume New York,i`m gonna fix it. Either way MJF should take some time off for mental health and think what he wants from his life. Newark is in New Jersey... which is quite a bit aways from Long Island... but it's not unheard of to get a flight there instead of JFK/La Guardia, because the time is better/cost/whatever...
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Post by oxbaker on May 30, 2022 13:38:42 GMT -5
Alvarez always gets stuff wrong tbf. SRS said he has an incredibly reliable source and he saw the ticket. Apparently the ticket cost over 2 grand. Dave pointed out that the supposed ticket was to NEWARK, which doesnt make sense because he doesnt live near there. Alvarez version: SRS saw evidence a flight had been booked, it was an actual flight. Somebody saw and said to Alvarez that MJF wasnt booked to any flights(except for after the PPV). And that his original after-ppv flight would have been Canceled if he did book another flight He also again hammered down the Meet & Greet wasnt a work. I know he’s from Long Island and I assume he resides there but not sure. There are three airport options flying commercially to NYC: LaGuardia, JFK and Newark. Mostly you price all three and take the cheapest. LaGuardia and JFK are about an hour to Long Island by cab/Uber/limo. Newark is 2 hours. BUT the thing is, when you try to book on extremely short notice and you’re looking for, say, a redeye flight (night flying) you’re stuck with what flight has a seat available. Lot of NY-Las Vegas both-ways traffic and it’s possible that was either the cheaper option (at $2K on a short-notice booking, per SRS price cited — typically flights prices go up every day starting about 2 weeks out) or the only option. So I wouldn’t make anything out of that. SRS did say after Alvarez spoke that he shared the image of the ticket with him. Not sure that Alvarez ever acknowledged that publicly, but SRS said he absolutely has seen the ticket in MJF’s name.
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