The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on May 30, 2022 23:43:01 GMT -5
MJF said in a shoot that he stays awake at night, wondering if he did the wrong thing and made people hate him. If that’s still the case, this situation can’t be easy for him. And the constant kayfabe is definitely something of a shield. So just like...drop the Andy Kauffman act. There are babies that haven't been born yet that know wrestling's fake these days. If his always-on thing is taking a toll on him mentally, he shouldn't be doing it. Then again, that kind of insane work-ethic would probably be a huge turn-on to Vince.
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lionheart21
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Post by lionheart21 on May 30, 2022 23:46:28 GMT -5
MJF said in a shoot that he stays awake at night, wondering if he did the wrong thing and made people hate him. If that’s still the case, this situation can’t be easy for him. And the constant kayfabe is definitely something of a shield. Yeah, that kinda gimmick is a double-edged sword. On one hand, you'll constantly get heat because you're constantly trying to piss people off. On the other, if that's not actually the type of person that you are, its the kinda thing that can start affecting you over time. Not to say that this is what is going on here, but just a speculation.
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Abdullah
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Post by Abdullah on May 30, 2022 23:53:41 GMT -5
MJF said in a shoot that he stays awake at night, wondering if he did the wrong thing and made people hate him. If that’s still the case, this situation can’t be easy for him. And the constant kayfabe is definitely something of a shield. Yeah, that kinda gimmick is a double-edged sword. On one hand, you'll constantly get heat because you're constantly trying to piss people off. On the other, if that's not actually the type of person that you are, its the kinda thing that can start affecting you over time. Not to say that this is what is going on here, but just a speculation. Yeah. I want to be careful since we don’t know what’s going on. But if it’s not just about the money and MJF is willing to sign an extension, then it’s a personal issue that neither want to be leaked. At this point, I just want a fairly conclusive update or for the story to go quiet until a decision is reached. As a fan, the past weekend has been stressful. I’m really too invested. MJF said in a shoot that he stays awake at night, wondering if he did the wrong thing and made people hate him. If that’s still the case, this situation can’t be easy for him. And the constant kayfabe is definitely something of a shield. So just like...drop the Andy Kauffman act. There are babies that haven't been born yet that know wrestling's fake these days. If his always-on thing is taking a toll on him mentally, he shouldn't be doing it. Then again, that kind of insane work-ethic would probably be a huge turn-on to Vince. I sort of see the opposite. He’s not in character when dealing with Tony or his AEW peers. If he feels his boss disrespected him and that the locker room is siding with the boss, as some reports have said, even prior to DoN, I can see how that becomes an unhappy work environment. But this is all wildly speculative, as none of the reports discuss any specifics of the issues between MJF and Khan.
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markymark
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Post by markymark on May 31, 2022 11:59:30 GMT -5
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Burst
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Post by Burst on May 31, 2022 12:04:48 GMT -5
In a sense it's not our business to be privy to the specific amounts of contracts signed, but I can totally see where that's coming from, in the sense of a loyalty thing or a there-from-day-one thing. I'd also imagine AEW probably has more capability to give out generous contracts than they did in 2019. Being a company workhorse from day one and being one of the biggest home-grown stars and still being 'modest' in comparison to folks basically showing up and being given whatever they've been given... I can see where that'd be eating at him. Still, at this point I feel like it's reductive to say this is just money-related. It may have started that way, but it doesn't feel like that's where we are now.
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Post by humanoid33 on May 31, 2022 12:51:59 GMT -5
This is probably where Tony Khan not being assertive enough is going to hurt him. Stop letting the talent openly start a bidding war for their contract against your rivals and then be shocked when they aren’t playing ball. Creative freedom still needs to be regulated or you’re just letting the inmates run the asylum.
Also, if MJF thinks the grass is greener on the other side, then I wish all the very best. I’d love to be able to be alive to see Vince strap the rocket on someone his size and his general attitude of trying to be a Brian Pillman/Roddy Pipper in 2022.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 31, 2022 15:40:21 GMT -5
Listen man. If he knows his worth and wants to be paid accordingly. More power to him.
Gotta support the workers. Squeeze the billionaire for all you can get,
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ghost
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Post by ghost on May 31, 2022 15:52:15 GMT -5
Everyone knew by year 2 of his career that LeBron James was one of the best players in basketball, but he still had to get through his rookie contract before he got paid more. Since AEW is not a salary capped sport, MJF can get more money, but it only benefits Khan if the more money comes with more years, so sign an extension for more money (which I'm guessing Khan would be on board with) or wait out the existing contract. Requesting a release is another option, but I'm looking at strictly the money/contract aspect of it.
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Dub H
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Post by Dub H on May 31, 2022 15:54:46 GMT -5
Listen man. If he knows his worth and wants to be paid accordingly. More power to him. Gotta support the workers. Squeeze the billionaire for all you can get, Thing is there is more to it.Dude was clearly acting in the moment and almost screwed over the star making moment of another wrestler. that would tank his value forever. The smart thing to do would ( apparently what he is doing now) take time off after and try to get more money or leave. More than money dude was plainly unhappy
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 31, 2022 16:47:14 GMT -5
This is probably where Tony Khan not being assertive enough is going to hurt him. Stop letting the talent openly start a bidding war for their contract against your rivals and then be shocked when they aren’t playing ball. Creative freedom still needs to be regulated or you’re just letting the inmates run the asylum. Also, if MJF thinks the grass is greener on the other side, then I wish all the very best. I’d love to be able to be alive to see Vince strap the rocket on someone his size and his general attitude of trying to be a Brian Pillman/Roddy Pipper in 2022. Tony Khan has to now make a choice of whether he wants to be the roster’s friend, or their boss. He can’t be both.
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Dub H
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Post by Dub H on May 31, 2022 16:58:06 GMT -5
This is probably where Tony Khan not being assertive enough is going to hurt him. Stop letting the talent openly start a bidding war for their contract against your rivals and then be shocked when they aren’t playing ball. Creative freedom still needs to be regulated or you’re just letting the inmates run the asylum. Also, if MJF thinks the grass is greener on the other side, then I wish all the very best. I’d love to be able to be alive to see Vince strap the rocket on someone his size and his general attitude of trying to be a Brian Pillman/Roddy Pipper in 2022. Tony Khan has to now make a choice of whether he wants to be the roster’s friend, or their boss. He can’t be both. I feel like you can always be ,to a point. both parties gotta realize there is power dynamics into play an your boss it not gonna be your friend all the time. Also they gotta realize being a friend doesnt mean giving millions of dollars
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 31, 2022 17:07:01 GMT -5
MJF said in a shoot that he stays awake at night, wondering if he did the wrong thing and made people hate him. If that’s still the case, this situation can’t be easy for him. And the constant kayfabe is definitely something of a shield. I think the kayfabe thing is kind of a coping mechanism for him. Easy to get over your sensitivity to rejection if you make it to where everyone is supposed to hate you anyway.
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