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Post by fg on May 31, 2022 11:01:12 GMT -5
…if Ultimate Deletion was successful. Here’s the link: tjrwrestling.net/news/vince-mcmahon-on-the-pulse-ultimate-deletion/Here’s what Matt Hardy said: “ I do remember they were very pleasantly surprised that it did do that good of a number. I do remember whenever we were there, watching it at the venue, they were having the live show, and then whenever the match before us ended, they just put some other segment in there for the live crowd, they didn’t play it on the titantron. I do remember earlier that day, they played in the production meeting, ‘The Ultimate Deletion’, for the writers, and coaches, and producers. “There was a standing ovation at the end of it, and I remember Vince was like, ‘I hope that means it’s good. I just don’t get it, I don’t get it.’ As he said that, I remember somebody told me [Vince said] in the production meeting, ‘I’ll tell you this, if this ends up doing a good number, I feel like I’m not on the pulse anymore. If this ends up doing a really good number, I need to change the way I do business because I’m not on the pulse anymore.’ It was also very frustrating, the line that was fed to Michael Cole right from the jump, kind of downplaying it already so that was very frustrating and disappointing as well.” As far as that middle paragraph says, I can make so many jokes about it as far as Vince being out of touch. We all know he is.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 31, 2022 11:07:15 GMT -5
"I need to change the way I do business" "Here's the latest contract with the Saudi Government sir!"
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on May 31, 2022 11:17:06 GMT -5
"I just don't get it, I don't get it." is Vince speak for "I hate it, so everyone else must hate it."
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Post by Push R Truth on May 31, 2022 11:20:33 GMT -5
To be perfectly fair having an "I don't get it" opinion after watching it was a fairly common opinion on the internet. This feels like piling on Vince for being "old and out of touch" when it was a truly a bizarre moment, even for Pro Wrestling.
For the record I loved it but can clearly see why somebody wouldn't get it.
God I feel dirty even vaguely defending Vince McMahon.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on May 31, 2022 11:21:43 GMT -5
To be perfectly fair having an "I don't get it" opinion after watching it was a fairly common opinion on the internet. This feels like piling on Vince for being "old and out of touch" when it was a truly a bizarre moment, even for Pro Wrestling. God I feel dirty even vaguely defending Vince McMahon. You should😜
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 31, 2022 11:33:49 GMT -5
I mean something like Ultimate Deletion is not for everybody.
But then this is the guy who didnt believe people find asian women attractive.
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Post by Chiral on May 31, 2022 11:41:41 GMT -5
—Vince looking at Broken Matt Hardy, Shotzi Blackheart, Swerve, Karrion Kross, NXT in general, Bray Wyatt, Aleister Black, basic narrative structure, Peyton Royce, Billie Kay, likable protagonists, satisfying story conclusions, satisfying story arcs past openings in general, Harland, Samoa Joe, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Toni Storm, Adam Cole, what fans liked about WCW, tag teams, friendships, Tucker, DDP, Andrade, Keith Lee, Johnny Gargano, Dexter Lumis, wrestlers with more than one word in their name, Malcolm Bivens, face turns, Dakota Kai, Zack Ryder, social media, MMA that isn't just Battle of the Tough Guys from No Holds Barred, the Revival, Deonna Purazzo, EC3, Erick Rowan, Eric Young, Heath Slater, faces having managers, Luke Harper, Kairi Sane, Kassius Ohno, the idea that anyone could have a different opinion than him, Ruby Riott, Rusev... [1/242]
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 31, 2022 11:59:51 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with not getting something, but people have been cracking "Vince is out of touch" jokes for a very long time and it's such a weird moment for him to be like "This. This is the thing where I'm not sure about it anymore you guys." That the make or break for this is The Ultimate Deletion.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on May 31, 2022 12:02:58 GMT -5
I mean something like Ultimate Deletion is not for everybody. But then this is the guy who didnt believe people find asian women attractive. Kind of ironic he employs Io Shirai.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2022 12:11:33 GMT -5
This sort of goes hand in hand with Vince being a controll freak because he doesn't want to accept that he does not infact nore has he for a very very long time now had his finger on the pulse outside of the 80s.
There is no doubt he believes the TV he is putting out is of the highest quality.
So no surprise he was terrified of something so drastically different....can't imagine HHH's pitch to Vince when he wanted to buy Lucha Underground because he felt the exact same way when he saw it.
"Aerostar flies off because he has literal rocket boots".
Vince: Well that is just un f***ing fair...Hunter go see if you can buy that thing because I just don't get guys with rocket boots who can fly it scares me.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 31, 2022 12:28:51 GMT -5
so if he f***s things up it means he's right and isn't irrelevent, I think we got to the bottom of the problem here
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 31, 2022 12:37:12 GMT -5
I mean something like Ultimate Deletion is not for everybody. But then this is the guy who didnt believe people find asian women attractive. Kind of ironic he employs Io Shirai. Jim Ross showed him some fetish porn sites to convince him. Seriously.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 31, 2022 12:51:02 GMT -5
As Brodie Bruce once said, he's got his finger far from the pulse, straight up his ass.
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on May 31, 2022 14:20:08 GMT -5
Vince: I don't get your Broken lifestyle but I'll accept it cause you're family
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 31, 2022 15:28:21 GMT -5
Vince, I hate to break it to you, but you haven't been on the pulse since the Reagan administration.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on May 31, 2022 15:34:19 GMT -5
Vince, I hate to break it to you, but you haven't been on the pulse since the Reagan administration. To be fair to Vince, I'm sure he misheard Matt's pitch about the "Broken" gimmick, and thought he said "Cokin'." Vince probably thought back to his 80's glory days and went with it.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 31, 2022 16:22:58 GMT -5
"I don't get this, if it's a hit I must be out of touch and I need to change the way I do business."
*It's a hit*
*Matt Hardy gets shoved back into his '90s gimmick and Ultimate Deletion is never mentioned in WWE again*
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Post by Dub H on May 31, 2022 16:37:47 GMT -5
"I don't get this, if it's a hit I must be out of touch and I need to change the way I do business." *It's a hit* *Matt Hardy gets shoved back into his '90s gimmick and Ultimate Deletion is never mentioned in WWE again* I'm sure Vince.did some mental gymnastics to justify it's not a hit as he did with Rusev
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Post by tirtefaa on May 31, 2022 17:03:07 GMT -5
If the numbers are the ultimate goal, then Vince isn't exactly wrong. I know that in this case, he is wrong, but looking at the quarterly numbers, he can always fall back on that.
Until WWE is losing money hand over fist, there isn't any incentive to change their product.
That doesn't mean they're putting on a good product, but that's unfortunately where we're at. It's bit Vince in the past, and it may eventually bite him again, but until then, he's going to ride the wave of mediocrity.
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Post by rainandlava on May 31, 2022 17:04:22 GMT -5
—Vince looking at Broken Matt Hardy, Shotzi Blackheart, Swerve, Karrion Kross, NXT in general, Bray Wyatt, Aleister Black, basic narrative structure, Peyton Royce, Billie Kay, likable protagonists, satisfying story conclusions, satisfying story arcs past openings in general, Harland, Samoa Joe, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Toni Storm, Adam Cole, what fans liked about WCW, tag teams, friendships, Tucker, DDP, Andrade, Keith Lee, Johnny Gargano, Dexter Lumis, wrestlers with more than one word in their name, Malcolm Bivens, face turns, Dakota Kai, Zack Ryder, social media, MMA that isn't just Battle of the Tough Guys from No Holds Barred, the Revival, Deonna Purazzo, EC3, Erick Rowan, Eric Young, Heath Slater, faces having managers, Luke Harper, Kairi Sane, Kassius Ohno, the idea that anyone could have a different opinion than him, Ruby Riott, Rusev... [1/242] Couldn't have said it better myself!
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