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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 12:55:39 GMT -5
MJF deserved all the money they're throwing at f***ing Mark Henry and Big Show, LOL.
It's gonna be interesting to see how they'll use MJF going forward. Gotta watch tonight's episode 'cause of that.
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Post by eJm on Jun 1, 2022 12:58:08 GMT -5
Far be it from me to stop discussion but…why are we involving Big Show and Mark Henry in this?
It’s hard enough stopping people from saying the whole “raise without an extension” thing (which nobody said as a serious part of the story, by the way), we don’t need to throw more discussion points that have nothing to do with anything.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 13:04:45 GMT -5
Far be it from me to stop discussion but…why are we involving Big Show and Mark Henry in this? It’s hard enough stopping people from saying the whole “raise without an extension” thing (which nobody said as a serious part of the story, by the way), we don’t need to throw more discussion points that have nothing to do with anything. People are just turning on then before Big Show can turn on us.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 1, 2022 13:06:34 GMT -5
Aren't there supposed to be a bunch of WB executives attending this one?
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Post by oxbaker on Jun 1, 2022 13:10:02 GMT -5
Far be it from me to stop discussion but…why are we involving Big Show and Mark Henry in this? It’s hard enough stopping people from saying the whole “raise without an extension” thing (which nobody said as a serious part of the story, by the way), we don’t need to throw more discussion points that have nothing to do with anything. That’s Captain Insano you’re talking about. He’s been relevant in this industry for a quarter century and he’s still relevant today.
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Post by oxbaker on Jun 1, 2022 13:11:45 GMT -5
I…guess we’re finding out more tonight, then? I expect a 10-minute power point promo of him explaining to Discovery execs why they should drop AEW and bid for WWE so they can have him on their lineup.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 13:12:02 GMT -5
Far be it from me to stop discussion but…why are we involving Big Show and Mark Henry in this? It’s hard enough stopping people from saying the whole “raise without an extension” thing (which nobody said as a serious part of the story, by the way), we don’t need to throw more discussion points that have nothing to do with anything. At the very beginning of this discussion, the two "reports" we were getting were that "MJF is not currently interested in an extension" and "MJF wants a raise," so I think that's where that confusion came in, at least for me. I agree, I don't think that Big Show and Mark Henry really have any bearing on this discussion. Obviously, MJF is going to be paid more than both of them when he gets his next contract. It's more just a matter of whether that contract is given to him by WWE or AEW at this point. Very interested to see the tone of MJF's promo tonight...there's nothing I hate more in wrestling than a badly worked shoot, so I'm definitely skeptical going in. But, I can admit this has the potential to be super compelling and draw people in if it's done well.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jun 1, 2022 13:13:17 GMT -5
I'm surprised he's on tonight. Even putting aside all the extra stuff I thought it would make sense for him to sell the beating from Wardlow and take a month or so off. Maybe he'll come out like Batista in 2010 comically over-selling the beating he took in a wheelchair or neck-brace.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 13:14:15 GMT -5
Far be it from me to stop discussion but…why are we involving Big Show and Mark Henry in this? It’s hard enough stopping people from saying the whole “raise without an extension” thing (which nobody said as a serious part of the story, by the way), we don’t need to throw more discussion points that have nothing to do with anything. At the very beginning of this discussion, the two "reports" we were getting were that "MJF is not currently interested in an extension" and "MJF wants a raise," so I think that's where that confusion came in, at least for me. I agree, I don't think that Big Show and Mark Henry really have any bearing on this discussion. Obviously, MJF is going to be paid more than both of them when he gets his next contract. It's more just a matter of whether than contract is given to him by WWE or AEW at this point. Very interested to see the tone of MJF's promo tonight...there's nothing I hate more in wrestling than a badly worked shoot, so I'm definitely skeptical going in. But, I can admit this has the potential to be super compelling and draw people in if it's done well. I think if MJF agreed to be its either going to be A great promo that ties everything together and gives us a pay off,wether it was a work ot not Or An Amazing Good bye promo where he loses it(or as someone else put it ,the Batista I Quit promo).
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 1, 2022 13:15:34 GMT -5
I'm surprised he's on tonight. Even putting aside all the extra stuff I thought it would make sense for him to sell the beating from Wardlow and take a month or so off. Maybe he'll come out like Batista in 2010 comically over-selling the beating he took in a wheelchair or neck-brace.Wearing blind blackout glasses, he announces Smart Mark Sterling filed a negligence lawsuit on his behalf over the oxygen mask placed improperly on his eyes
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 1, 2022 13:23:05 GMT -5
I'm surprised he's on tonight. Even putting aside all the extra stuff I thought it would make sense for him to sell the beating from Wardlow and take a month or so off. Maybe he'll come out like Batista in 2010 comically over-selling the beating he took in a wheelchair or neck-brace.Wearing blind blackout glasses, he announces Smart Mark Sterling filed a negligence lawsuit on his behalf over the oxygen mask placed improperly on his eyes Three words: Burberry neck brace.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 1, 2022 13:32:20 GMT -5
Seriously though, if they sorted out whatever issues there were/are or at least made progress towards such, more power to them. But I don’t have the energy for this whole thing to be treated as some worked shoot masterpiece, because goodness knows there’ll be some out there will be like that.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 1, 2022 13:32:45 GMT -5
I'm surprised he's on tonight. Even putting aside all the extra stuff I thought it would make sense for him to sell the beating from Wardlow and take a month or so off. Maybe he'll come out like Batista in 2010 comically over-selling the beating he took in a wheelchair or neck-brace. Batista was exactly what I thought of when I saw he’s going to be on the show. I do think, though, that they probably worked something out and he’s going to see out his contract at least.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 13:33:47 GMT -5
Seriously though, if they sorted out whatever issues there were/are or at least made progress towards such, more power to them. But I don’t have the energy for this whole thing to be treated as some worked shoot masterpiece, because goodness knows there’ll be some out there will be like that. 3 Years from now there will be people saying how amazing this was just the way there is still people saying Jinder title run was amazing but I think this is more about making the best of a bad situation.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jun 1, 2022 13:33:54 GMT -5
So I take it AEW doesn't do a bonus scheme then?
What's stopping Tony from giving him a few grand as appearance fee per PPV as MJF has proved his worth?
For all its faults, the WWE talent get compensated very well - even if it's to show up at the Saudi events. I think NXT rookie deals cover travel and living expenses for the rookie salary.
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Post by oxbaker on Jun 1, 2022 13:34:05 GMT -5
He’s going to come out and cut a promo complaining about how Tony signed Wardlow to a bigger contract than him.
And everyone will lol and say ‘what a great heel, I love him!!!’
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2022 13:35:33 GMT -5
So I take it AEW doesn't do a bonus scheme then? What's stopping Tony from giving him a few grand as appearance fee per PPV as MJF has proved his worth? For all its faults, the WWE talent get compensated very well - even if it's to show up at the Saudi events. I think NXT rookie deals cover travel and living expenses for the rookie salary. NXT Rookies do not have it I think, and thats a pretty common complaint. Especially when they have to move their whole life there. Also we dont know if AEW pays anything extra besides Merch and Contracts.I would assume not.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jun 1, 2022 13:38:14 GMT -5
He’s going to come out and cut a promo complaining about how Tony signed Wardlow to a bigger contract than him. And everyone will lol and say ‘what a great heel, I love him!!!’I have this response prepared already
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jun 1, 2022 13:40:16 GMT -5
So I take it AEW doesn't do a bonus scheme then? What's stopping Tony from giving him a few grand as appearance fee per PPV as MJF has proved his worth? For all its faults, the WWE talent get compensated very well - even if it's to show up at the Saudi events. I think NXT rookie deals cover travel and living expenses for the rookie salary. NXT Rookies do not have it I think, and thats a pretty common complaint. Especially when they have to move their whole life there. Also we dont know if AEW pays anything extra besides Merch and Contracts.I would assume not. Yeah I don't know anything of the specifics of AEW contracts but when Vince was in Tony's position - i.e. a private company with a TV and merchandising deal, Vince would make millionaires out of people whose contract was only guaranteed 10 appearances at a total compensation of $1500. I get why MJF feels like he does.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Jun 1, 2022 13:44:14 GMT -5
Far be it from me to stop discussion but…why are we involving Big Show and Mark Henry in this? It’s hard enough stopping people from saying the whole “raise without an extension” thing (which nobody said as a serious part of the story, by the way), we don’t need to throw more discussion points that have nothing to do with anything. I hate how people not involved in this are suddenly being dragged in. WTF did Mark Henry, Christian, or Adam Cole or Big Show do to anyone to suddenly have their salaries questioned and attacked? Nobody better say "Well it's just comparison...", no. This is insulting to other people in the business, who busted their asses for a long time to make a name, and were considered important enough to be a part of an organization. How many people get dragged because MJF doesnt get his second raise? Already Tony Khan because Wade Keller said he's a bad friend, Wardlow's match almost not happening because a plane ticket was bought, entire days before PPVs with people obsessed over him showing up, now every single free agent signing since 2019? If I'm Mark Henry, Big Show and Christian, I find MJF tonight and ask why exactly is Wade Keller bringing up their names.
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