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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 9, 2022 7:27:00 GMT -5
Yes, and that is also terrible And again, we're not talking about the Big 5 which at least would fit with all the finals and shot at the cup metaphors. This is a PPV that WWE treated with such importance, it's one of the shows Roman Reigns isn't going to be on from now on. Like, I get it, Cody toughed it out because he wanted to have an iconic moment leading to a massive(er) face push. But this isn't Steph Curry toughing it out against Boston for the world title, this is Steph Currey toughing it out to play a 3rd week non consequence game against Sacramento. It was his first PPV singles main event. His face was on the poster, the chairs in the arena and literally every other bit of marketing collateral. it’s clear they have a lot of plans for the guy. It’s not the world title match, but it’s not like he did this for a random RAW.
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Post by eJm on Jun 9, 2022 7:31:18 GMT -5
And again, we're not talking about the Big 5 which at least would fit with all the finals and shot at the cup metaphors. This is a PPV that WWE treated with such importance, it's one of the shows Roman Reigns isn't going to be on from now on. Like, I get it, Cody toughed it out because he wanted to have an iconic moment leading to a massive(er) face push. But this isn't Steph Curry toughing it out against Boston for the world title, this is Steph Currey toughing it out to play a 3rd week non consequence game against Sacramento. It was his first PPV singles main event. His face was on the poster, the chairs in the arena and literally every other bit of marketing collateral. it’s clear they have a lot of plans for the guy. It’s not the world title match, but it’s not like he did this for a random RAW. Yeah, I overexaggerated but my point sort of still stands. It's a show that's lost a lot of meaning over the decade in a match type that lost its significance before it became an event and yeah, ok, he was on the poster but it's not like people who have been prominently promoted for something haven't been cut from matches before (Sasha at Summerslam last year, for example) so the "he was on the poster" thing sort of loses meaning. EDIT: And the other thing is that all it does is, if someone is injured and doesn't feel comfortable working, have Cody as the go to example of "He went out there with his arm practically dislodged, what's your excuse?"
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 9, 2022 7:48:32 GMT -5
It was his first PPV singles main event. His face was on the poster, the chairs in the arena and literally every other bit of marketing collateral. it’s clear they have a lot of plans for the guy. It’s not the world title match, but it’s not like he did this for a random RAW. Yeah, I overexaggerated but my point sort of still stands. It's a show that's lost a lot of meaning over the decade in a match type that lost its significance before it became an event and yeah, ok, he was on the poster but it's not like people who have been prominently promoted for something haven't been cut from matches before (Sasha at Summerslam last year, for example) so the "he was on the poster" thing sort of loses meaning. EDIT: And the other thing is that all it does is, if someone is injured and doesn't feel comfortable working, have Cody as the go to example of "He went out there with his arm practically dislodged, what's your excuse?" It's a show that for him had a lot of meaning because it was built around him. That was my point. Not the significance to us on a message board. It was also a sell-out in a time when they're not always selling out, so they did something right. Your second point's valid but part of me wonders if that already happens and we just don't know, to be honest. I'm sure these guys are all working hurt and at times with injuries that would keep normal folks down for the count. This really felt like a unique circumstance to me where he knew it was the main event and he knew he could get a decent match out of it given he's worked with Seth 90 times in the last few months. If we're sitting here in a year or two talking about a few different matches where people tried to gut it out when they shouldn't have, fair play. For now, it just feels like a semi-unique situation where toughing it out publicly may benefit him in the long run. Surgery's today, so we'll see what happens.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 9, 2022 8:42:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I overexaggerated but my point sort of still stands. It's a show that's lost a lot of meaning over the decade in a match type that lost its significance before it became an event and yeah, ok, he was on the poster but it's not like people who have been prominently promoted for something haven't been cut from matches before (Sasha at Summerslam last year, for example) so the "he was on the poster" thing sort of loses meaning. EDIT: And the other thing is that all it does is, if someone is injured and doesn't feel comfortable working, have Cody as the go to example of "He went out there with his arm practically dislodged, what's your excuse?" It's a show that for him had a lot of meaning because it was built around him. That was my point. Not the significance to us on a message board. It was also a sell-out in a time when they're not always selling out, so they did something right. Your second point's valid but part of me wonders if that already happens and we just don't know, to be honest. I'm sure these guys are all working hurt and at times with injuries that would keep normal folks down for the count. This really felt like a unique circumstance to me where he knew it was the main event and he knew he could get a decent match out of it given he's worked with Seth 90 times in the last few months. If we're sitting here in a year or two talking about a few different matches where people tried to gut it out when they shouldn't have, fair play. For now, it just feels like a semi-unique situation where toughing it out publicly may benefit him in the long run. Surgery's today, so we'll see what happens. Yeah Roman not being on the show made it even more important for Cody. He was the featured player for the entire marketing of this PPV. It was definitely a big deal for him.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 9, 2022 9:10:45 GMT -5
I think the drugs played more of a part The drugs also played a part in wrestlers being able to wrestle with injuries. People usually end up addicted to drugs because of like. Reasons? And maybe when your job is physically grueling and there's a pressure to work through the pain because the promotion needs you and you need this push, and so much of what people end up addicted to are either pain pills or similarly numb you, there's a correlation there.
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Post by Nosnorb on Jun 9, 2022 9:18:07 GMT -5
And also, Cody didn't bleed like a stuck pig at HiaC. Save the visual of the crimson mask for another time, probably his first WWE/Universal Title match.
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Post by thehottag on Jun 9, 2022 9:21:08 GMT -5
And also, Cody didn't bleed like a stuck pig at HiaC. Save the visual of the crimson mask for another time, probably his first WWE/Universal Title match. He didn't really need to on this occasion. Usually blood adds to the drama of the match, ramping up the danger element, but Cody was already doing a passable impression of William Burkin from Resident Evil 2 from the start.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 9, 2022 9:28:51 GMT -5
And also, Cody didn't bleed like a stuck pig at HiaC. Save the visual of the crimson mask for another time, probably his first WWE/Universal Title match. Wait he still also mega bled? Cody is a parody of himself.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 9, 2022 10:22:58 GMT -5
And also, Cody didn't bleed like a stuck pig at HiaC. Save the visual of the crimson mask for another time, probably his first WWE/Universal Title match. Wait he still also mega bled? Cody is a parody of himself. No he didn’t bleed at HIAC.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 9, 2022 10:26:30 GMT -5
Wait he still also mega bled? Cody is a parody of himself. No he didn’t bleed at HIAC. Oh I misread that completely, my bad. Joke's on me for browsing without my glasses first thing in the morning.
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Post by ayumidah on Jun 9, 2022 16:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 9, 2022 21:29:00 GMT -5
Brandi Rhodes posted on Twitter that Cody’s torn pec was successfully reattached and the surgery went off without a hitch.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jun 9, 2022 22:24:32 GMT -5
Brandi Rhodes posted on Twitter that Cody’s torn pec was successfully reattached and the surgery went off without a hitch.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 10, 2022 1:56:24 GMT -5
Brandi Rhodes posted on Twitter that Cody’s torn pec was successfully reattached and the surgery went off without a hitch. "MUST... MAKE... TEN MINUTE ENTRANCE..."
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 10, 2022 7:45:26 GMT -5
Comparing this to the NHL playoffs is pretty ridiculous, given that the hockey players will have an offseason coming up, have their healthcare taken care of, have a pension through the players’ association, etc.
It’s also true that some pro athletes play through pain to avoid “losing their spot”, ala many pro wrestlers, but their circumstances are completely different from a fictional storytelling world where who gets highly featured or paid better is determined by the whims of a single person.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jun 10, 2022 10:27:20 GMT -5
i just watched the match again, and seeing his bruising almost makes it sickening to watch, but what he put himself through for our entertainment is borderline criminal, and both guys in that hell in a cell just proved ONCE AGAIN ... that these guys and gals are indeed INSANE! cody and seth are like two sides of the same coin really
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jun 10, 2022 10:41:38 GMT -5
im glad he's aright but re the discussion this feels less like winning the Stanley Cup with one functional leg and more showing up to run through a Gilmore Girls episode having just been fired on with two rounds of birdshot
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Post by Desi on Jun 10, 2022 10:59:18 GMT -5
I tried to watch the match but I couldn't do it, it triggered my somatic empathy for Cody too much. And I generally don't like the sight of blood anyways.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jun 10, 2022 16:37:23 GMT -5
Can anyone with any experience/expertise explain how you reattach a muscle to bone that's been torn off?
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Post by Cyno on Jun 10, 2022 17:02:58 GMT -5
I'm torn (pun not intended) between having a lot of respect for Cody and Seth being able to pull off a great match with that obvious limitation and wanting to yell at Cody "WHAT THE f*** IS WRONG WITH YOU?!"
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