Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 15, 2022 13:51:46 GMT -5
Some recent reminiscing on WWECW brought this to mind. This was a really convoluted, stop-go kind of thing. The newly debuted exhibitionist Kelly Kelly has a crush on the also newly debuted CM Punk, much to the charging of her very jealous boyfriend Mike Knox. Honestly not a terrible idea for Punk’s first program, playing the white knight to save the lady fair.
Except it never really happened. In the segments where Kelly tried to flirt with Punk he was virtually non-responsive, acting like he couldn’t possibly have cared less, and I even think that the one time Knox confronted Punk instead of standing up to the bullying boyfriend Punk responded with something like “Dude she’s the one coming on to me.” Instead of Knox interfering in Punk’s matches out of jealous rage, he just interrupted Kelly’s striptease bits, usually throwing a cover over her before sheer even really shown anything. And the whole thing was dropped really fast with Knox dumping Kelly during a mixed tag match. Which leaves me asking-what even was the point then?
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Jun 15, 2022 14:23:08 GMT -5
WWECW was basically just throwing shit against the wall to see what stuck. Also, it was pretty obvious that Heyman had one vision and Vince had a completely different one. Around November, everything Heyman had been building to suddenly got cast aside for the Extreme Elimination Chamber. RVD/Show, Holly/Test, Sandman/Striker, Balls/Thorn, Punk/Knox, all just abruptly ended so they could toss bodies in the Chamber match.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 15, 2022 14:30:17 GMT -5
I gotta be honest, I didn't hate WWECW once it became a debut ground/rehab territory for older guys
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 15, 2022 14:30:34 GMT -5
They had a house show match here in Baton Rouge. So probably just a basic feud to justify house show matches and introduce Punk to the audience.
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Post by sportatorium on Jun 15, 2022 15:29:12 GMT -5
We just need the footage of Vince showing her how to properly do a striptease.
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tafkaga
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Post by tafkaga on Jun 15, 2022 16:49:09 GMT -5
If I recall, that was very early in the days of WWECW when they still had Sandman, Dreamer and a lot of ECW alumni around. The priority was more to capture the flavor of the old ECW, kind of a "greater than the sum of its parts" philosophy.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 15, 2022 16:53:06 GMT -5
I gotta be honest, I didn't hate WWECW once it became a debut ground/rehab territory for older guys By a certain point ECW was great. A fresh hour of fun goofy shit with old guys and new talent.
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fw91
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Post by fw91 on Jun 15, 2022 18:23:41 GMT -5
Mike Knox’s best moment was when HBK kicked him out of the Survivor Series match in 2006.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Jun 15, 2022 19:00:04 GMT -5
Mike Knox’s best moment was when HBK kicked him out of the Survivor Series match in 2006. And his worst moment was immediately after, when Shawn and Hunter acted like they didn't know who he was. Man, that match was such a freakin' burial of the heel team.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 16, 2022 12:54:43 GMT -5
It's kind of surreal to think that back when WWECW started Heyman was allowed to pick whatever 2 guys he wanted from developmental and his picks were CM Punk and Mike Knox. I know people on the board who followed Deep South said Knox was very talented, but he just never put it together whether in WWE or TNA
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 16, 2022 13:17:52 GMT -5
It's kind of surreal to think that back when WWECW started Heyman was allowed to pick whatever 2 guys he wanted from developmental and his picks were CM Punk and Mike Knox. I know people on the board who followed Deep South said Knox was very talented, but he just never put it together whether in WWE or TNA He had some moments but I really think he was a guy who need a Heyman, not a Vince. Someone who could accentuate the positive not try and force him into a box until he breaks.
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Bad Moon
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Post by Bad Moon on Jun 16, 2022 13:24:22 GMT -5
I gotta be honest, I didn't hate WWECW once it became a debut ground/rehab territory for older guys At one point it really was just a proto-NXT, complete with Regal as on-screen authority.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jun 17, 2022 1:19:07 GMT -5
Then Kelly formed Extreme Expose with Brook and Layla and they all wanted to bang the Miz.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jun 17, 2022 6:04:21 GMT -5
It's kind of surreal to think that back when WWECW started Heyman was allowed to pick whatever 2 guys he wanted from developmental and his picks were CM Punk and Mike Knox. I know people on the board who followed Deep South said Knox was very talented, but he just never put it together whether in WWE or TNA He had some moments but I really think he was a guy who need a Heyman, not a Vince. Someone who could accentuate the positive not try and force him into a box until he breaks. I recall him impressing people during his RAW run with Rey Mysterio, giving interviews as a soft-spoken sociopath. Nothing ever really came of it and he was quietly sent packing not long after.
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Post by saneiac on Jun 17, 2022 22:36:48 GMT -5
He had some moments but I really think he was a guy who need a Heyman, not a Vince. Someone who could accentuate the positive not try and force him into a box until he breaks. I recall him impressing people during his RAW run with Rey Mysterio, giving interviews as a soft-spoken sociopath. Nothing ever really came of it and he was quietly sent packing not long after. That feud started off pretty nicely. Knox attacked Mysterio in the parking lot and beat the hell out of him. The next week, they interviewed Knox and asked him why he did it, and he answered, "Huh. I don't know." I think that was the period where he was using medical terms to describe his opponent's future injuries, too. The problem, as usual, is that Vince has one single way in his mind that big scary bad guys are supposed to act, and being soft-spoken or intellectual isn't it.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jun 18, 2022 0:14:29 GMT -5
I did enjoy that it almost seemed like Punk was breaking script with just how much he didn’t care about this.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Jun 18, 2022 2:05:42 GMT -5
I seem to recall them having a pretty well regarded TV main event.
Didn't Balls Mahoney eventually get involved?
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 18, 2022 2:14:13 GMT -5
I seem to recall them having a pretty well regarded TV main event. Didn't Balls Mahoney eventually get involved? I do remember Balls and Kelly eventually had their own angle, but I think it was later on.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 18, 2022 2:15:25 GMT -5
I remember Mike Knox also having a good thing going at a point as an evil doctor on SmackDown talking about the specific ways he would hurt people but then they just had Finlay kick his ass over and over and over.
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Post by xander on Jun 19, 2022 20:38:18 GMT -5
Honestly, I was a big fan of Knox's "quiet, anatomy destroying monster" character, and felt like that could have had legs. Also, his crossbody was FIERCE! Every time he hit it, I'd be wondering if the other guy might be broken.
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