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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 9, 2022 17:42:55 GMT -5
She was still on the roster. Wasn't injured. She left the company November 30, 2001. So she was still under contract at the time of the show.
So was there a reason why she didn't return and drop the title to Trish?
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Post by chronocross on Jul 9, 2022 17:45:44 GMT -5
To be honest I don't think she wanted to put any of the women's roster over. I wish they had let Lita get the win over here at Judgment Day that year.
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Post by cjh on Jul 9, 2022 17:48:54 GMT -5
While Chyna's contract didn't expire until November, she was pretty much done months earlier. The company stopped having talks with her about a new deal around July.
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Post by Aceorton on Jul 9, 2022 19:41:06 GMT -5
I didn't realize she was still around even legally at that point. She missed the entire Invasion.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 9, 2022 19:44:56 GMT -5
I didn't realize she was still around even legally at that point. She missed the entire Invasion. This thread does make me wonder what her role in that angle would have been.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 9, 2022 19:51:07 GMT -5
I didn't realize she was still around even legally at that point. She missed the entire Invasion. This thread does make me wonder what her role in that angle would have been. I could imagine an angle of her initially aligned with the WWF before betraying them for the Alliance out of jealousy towards Lita and Trish.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 9, 2022 19:59:33 GMT -5
Even if she stuck around, Chyna had no intention of selling for other women, much less actually losing to them. Check out her matches with Lita/Trish/Ivory/Molly in April/May 2001 before she left. She was crushing them and giving them nothing.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jul 9, 2022 20:12:37 GMT -5
I wonder what role she would've played in the Invasion.
I could easily see her jumping ship to the Alliance.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 9, 2022 20:35:46 GMT -5
While Chyna's contract didn't expire until November, she was pretty much done months earlier. The company stopped having talks with her about a new deal around July. After her match with Lita s she was sent home and that was the end of it. Lita had said in interviews there was supposed to been more than one match between the two but instead Chyna was sent home.
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Post by tirtefaa on Jul 9, 2022 22:06:47 GMT -5
It's always been interesting to note that Chyna's departure led to Trish's rise. I never would have thought that Trish was a capable wrestler before this. After Lita's neck injury, Trish was basically the defacto central female until 2006, which was unheard of since most women up to that point usually had one or two big years, then would disappear from the company.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 22:35:14 GMT -5
It's always been interesting to note that Chyna's departure led to Trish's rise. I never would have thought that Trish was a capable wrestler before this. After Lita's neck injury, Trish was basically the defacto central female until 2006, which was unheard of since most women up to that point usually had one or two big years, then would disappear from the company. The reason for that was Trish was insanely hot & worked incredibly hard to get better in the ring. So there was no reason for wwe to move on from her after a brief run like others who were just eye candy.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jul 9, 2022 22:37:26 GMT -5
It's always been interesting to note that Chyna's departure led to Trish's rise. I never would have thought that Trish was a capable wrestler before this. After Lita's neck injury, Trish was basically the defacto central female until 2006, which was unheard of since most women up to that point usually had one or two big years, then would disappear from the company. Trish deserves all the credit in the world for working her ass off to become a really solid all-around talent when she could have easily just coasted off being insanely good-looking.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jul 11, 2022 6:48:36 GMT -5
Because it was much less of a headache for them to actually just strip her of the title, to get her to come back and job would have been a nightmare for them at that point.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 11, 2022 7:00:22 GMT -5
Even at the time, I thought her going for the Women's Championship was a step down. It didn't make sense since she kayfabe proved she could hang with the boys, even winning the IC title on three occasions. If she lost the Women's belt, wouldn't that mean the woman in question who beats her for it has a shot at the guys? Talk about backing yourself into a corner.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 11, 2022 7:15:04 GMT -5
Chyna was unfortunately rather self-centered sometimes and more than a little condescending to the women. Ivory says Chyna warmed to her a bit by the time they were done working together, when she realized Ivory was busting her ass to try to make Chyna look good, but I do frankly think Chyna felt threatened by Lita's popularity. Lita was being treated with a level of credibility that Chyna had previously enjoyed alone, and I don't think Chyna liked the idea of putting her over and potentially grooming her replacement for her spot. I do think she essentially maneuvered herself out of having any real meaningful legacy in women's wrestling history. Obviously, she was a star, but, being a total dead-end of a champion doesn't leave much to talk about, whereas passing the baton would have kept her part of the conversation.
Additionally, Chyna was beginning to feel she should be a big star outside of wrestling, from the sound of things, and probably would have rather been off acting or getting more high-level photoshoots. The issue was that, without WWE, she just got significantly fewer opportunities. That, substance abuse, and increasingly implausible lies and ethically dubious behavior did a lot to make her eventual fate an unfortunate inevitability.
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Post by karl100589 on Jul 11, 2022 7:22:34 GMT -5
Even at the time, I thought her going for the Women's Championship was a step down. It didn't make sense since she kayfabe proved she could hang with the boys, even winning the IC title on three occasions. If she lost the Women's belt, wouldn't that mean the woman in question who beats her for it has a shot at the guys? Talk about backing yourself into a corner.
I think it as implied Chyna's neck injury from Val weakened her to the point the smaller women now had a chance against her. I seem to remember Lita getting a pretty good match out of her at Judgement Day. She realised she couldn't go power for power with her, so tried turning it into a grappling match.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 11, 2022 7:32:02 GMT -5
Even at the time, I thought her going for the Women's Championship was a step down. It didn't make sense since she kayfabe proved she could hang with the boys, even winning the IC title on three occasions. If she lost the Women's belt, wouldn't that mean the woman in question who beats her for it has a shot at the guys? Talk about backing yourself into a corner.
I think it as implied Chyna's neck injury from Val weakened her to the point the smaller women now had a chance against her. I seem to remember Lita getting a pretty good match out of her at Judgement Day. She realised she couldn't go power for power with her, so tried turning it into a grappling match.
But that was before the Royal Rumble, wasn't she suppose to be fully healed by Wrestlemania?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 11, 2022 7:34:18 GMT -5
Chyna was unfortunately rather self-centered sometimes and more than a little condescending to the women. Ivory says Chyna warmed to her a bit by the time they were done working together, when she realized Ivory was busting her ass to try to make Chyna look good, but I do frankly think Chyna felt threatened by Lita's popularity. Lita was being treated with a level of credibility that Chyna had previously enjoyed alone, and I don't think Chyna liked the idea of putting her over and potentially grooming her replacement for her spot. I do think she essentially maneuvered herself out of having any real meaningful legacy in women's wrestling history. Obviously, she was a star, but, being a total dead-end of a champion doesn't leave much to talk about, whereas passing the baton would have kept her part of the conversation. Additionally, Chyna was beginning to feel she should be a big star outside of wrestling, from the sound of things, and probably would have rather been off acting or getting more high-level photoshoots. The issue was that, without WWE, she just got significantly fewer opportunities. That, substance abuse, and increasingly implausible lies and ethically dubious behavior did a lot to make her eventual fate an unfortunate inevitability. didnt she also have a manager who was giving her absolutely terrible career advice or am I just misremembering?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 11, 2022 7:36:18 GMT -5
Chyna was unfortunately rather self-centered sometimes and more than a little condescending to the women. Ivory says Chyna warmed to her a bit by the time they were done working together, when she realized Ivory was busting her ass to try to make Chyna look good, but I do frankly think Chyna felt threatened by Lita's popularity. Lita was being treated with a level of credibility that Chyna had previously enjoyed alone, and I don't think Chyna liked the idea of putting her over and potentially grooming her replacement for her spot. I do think she essentially maneuvered herself out of having any real meaningful legacy in women's wrestling history. Obviously, she was a star, but, being a total dead-end of a champion doesn't leave much to talk about, whereas passing the baton would have kept her part of the conversation. Additionally, Chyna was beginning to feel she should be a big star outside of wrestling, from the sound of things, and probably would have rather been off acting or getting more high-level photoshoots. The issue was that, without WWE, she just got significantly fewer opportunities. That, substance abuse, and increasingly implausible lies and ethically dubious behavior did a lot to make her eventual fate an unfortunate inevitability. didnt she also have a manager who was giving her absolutely terrible career advice or am I just misremembering? She sure as hell wasn't getting good career advice, so, probably. It sucks that near the end, she was someone Anna Nicole Smith's family painted as being an opportunist trying to latch onto people with bigger names/infamy. A rather pathetic state to be in.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 11, 2022 8:02:27 GMT -5
I don't think she ever wanted to be in the womens division to begin with. She probably had her sights set on the WWF title.
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