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Post by Casey Jones (AKA MrThrowback) on Aug 14, 2022 22:11:56 GMT -5
The term "Jannetty" has been used to describe the member of a tag team that didn't reach the level of stardom that their partner would achieve on their own.
I recently came across a post that Foley made online where he referred to himself as The Jannetty of The Rock and Sock Connection.
That lead me to thinking that you could call Jim Neidhart the Jannetty of the Hart Foundation. Or Brian Pillman the Jannetty of the Hollywood Blonds.
Who are some other "Jannetty's" that were also well known names on their own?
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Post by Stu on Aug 14, 2022 22:14:36 GMT -5
Pillman doesn’t count since he died and there’s no telling what could’ve happened to his career.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 22:15:12 GMT -5
I think of a Jannety as someone who not only isn't as good as their partner, but is also their own worst enemy.
The Anvil never did anything to the level of Marty Jannety, he just wasn't as good as Bret, as an example.
The ORIGINAL Jannety, though, in my opinion, is Tully Blanchard.
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Post by britishbulldog on Aug 14, 2022 23:25:49 GMT -5
I think of a Jannety as someone who not only isn't as good as their partner, but is also their own worst enemy. The Anvil never did anything to the level of Marty Jannety, he just wasn't as good as Bret, as an example. The ORIGINAL Jannety, though, in my opinion, is Tully Blanchard. At the time of the split it’s arguable that Jannety was the better of the two in ring.
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Aug 14, 2022 23:31:31 GMT -5
Tully Blanchard was the 'Jannetty' of the Brainbusters for the same reason: alleged drugs.
EDIT: Beaten to my original thought, so I'll offer Rick Steiner and Tom Zenk.
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Post by karl100589 on Aug 14, 2022 23:44:47 GMT -5
Stevie Ray. Booker became a multi time world champion and is now a respected hall of Famer.
Stevie Ray… became head of the NWO B team
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 14, 2022 23:46:18 GMT -5
Would the Warlord be the Jannetty of the Powers of Pain? For that matter, Barbarian could be considered the Jannetty of the Faces of Fear.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 14, 2022 23:51:01 GMT -5
I think of a Jannety as someone who not only isn't as good as their partner, but is also their own worst enemy. The Anvil never did anything to the level of Marty Jannety, he just wasn't as good as Bret, as an example. The ORIGINAL Jannety, though, in my opinion, is Tully Blanchard. At the time of the split it’s arguable that Jannety was the better of the two in ring. Maybe, though I think even significantly before that, he had already been pegged as the one with less potential. Roddy Piper started a fight by telling Michaels that Jannetty was holding him back. As shitty as Shawn could be, and Hennig getting Jannetty his job back after Shawn allegedly got him fired, history ended up kind of vindicating Piper's assessment.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Aug 15, 2022 0:04:48 GMT -5
I've always hated the "Jannetty" term.
I'll go to my grave arguing that Marty was better in the ring.
It pisses me off that Vince punished him for his transgressions and tried to build the company around HBK despite his.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 15, 2022 0:36:25 GMT -5
Jannety can arguably be the better of the two in the ring but Shawn was by far always going to be the bigger star.
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Post by tirtefaa on Aug 15, 2022 0:54:51 GMT -5
95% of most tag teams over the last 30 years would give almost anything to have the career that Jannetty did.
The fact that only one guy in a tag team would go on to be a world champion is such a rare occurrence that comparing yourself to the other guy, who was a solid midcard act and continued to have a steady career afterward seems rather ridiculous.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 15, 2022 2:15:54 GMT -5
I disagree to an extent with the suggestion that Tully is the Jannetty out of the Brain Busters. While Arn is generally the bigger name now due to lingering in WCW for longer, even after retirement, Blanchard honestly had more singles success than Arn did, between the Dusty feud, winning more titles, etc. I'd say it largely evens out. It's sort of like how I wouldn't say there's a Jannetty between the US Express. Barry Windham was the bigger singles name, but Rotunda arguably has more name value due to WWE having kept him out there more as a go-to legend. Jannety can arguably be the better of the two in the ring but Shawn was by far always going to be the bigger star. Right. Like, yes, Jannetty still had a long and fairly fruitful career, but even if he had gotten and stayed sober, I do question if he would have had anywhere near the singles success that Shawn did. Shawn definitely benefited from finding a supporter like Vince, but I think that, even if other promoters would have attempted to do more to tame him, they'd have chosen him over Marty, too.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 15, 2022 4:19:08 GMT -5
The Jannetty is a relative measure, so: Christian Ultimate Warrior Shelton Benjamin (from his Brock teaming in OVW) Triple H (in the Two Man Power Trip) HBK (in 2006 on DX)
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 15, 2022 5:09:00 GMT -5
I disagree to an extent with the suggestion that Tully is the Jannetty out of the Brain Busters. While Arn is generally the bigger name now due to lingering in WCW for longer, even after retirement, Blanchard honestly had more singles success than Arn did, between the Dusty feud, winning more titles, etc. I'd say it largely evens out. It's sort of like how I wouldn't say there's a Jannetty between the US Express. Barry Windham was the bigger singles name, but Rotunda arguably has more name value due to WWE having kept him out there more as a go-to legend. Jannety can arguably be the better of the two in the ring but Shawn was by far always going to be the bigger star. Right. Like, yes, Jannetty still had a long and fairly fruitful career, but even if he had gotten and stayed sober, I do question if he would have had anywhere near the singles success that Shawn did. Shawn definitely benefited from finding a supporter like Vince, but I think that, even if other promoters would have attempted to do more to tame him, they'd have chosen him over Marty, too. The issue beyond being sober. He never tried to break way from the Rocker gimmick. He was always the lone rocker where ever he went. The other part is Marty lack that mic work that Shawn had. Which in Vince's world is a must to be on top.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 15, 2022 5:18:11 GMT -5
I think of a Jannety as someone who not only isn't as good as their partner, but is also their own worst enemy. The Anvil never did anything to the level of Marty Jannety, he just wasn't as good as Bret, as an example. The ORIGINAL Jannety, though, in my opinion, is Tully Blanchard. Oh I think Neidhart did plenty, there was a reason the family kept begging for him to get jobs and he inevitably f***ed up the opportunity.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 15, 2022 5:22:58 GMT -5
I mean technically one tag partner is almost always going to do better just by sheer circumstance. John Morrison for example had a Jannetty for a partner in Joey Mercury and could be argued as one to Miz, but all three have had pretty decent careers, and none have self destructed like Marty did.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Aug 15, 2022 6:55:05 GMT -5
Koko B Ware was the Jannetty of High Energy Crush from Demolition
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 15, 2022 6:59:12 GMT -5
I mean technically one tag partner is almost always going to do better just by sheer circumstance. John Morrison for example had a Jannetty for a partner in Joey Mercury and could be argued as one to Miz, but all three have had pretty decent careers, and none have self destructed like Marty did. Right, and I mean, it gets especially silly when you have Foley (presumably as a joke) calling himself the Jannetty of Rock n Sock Connection given he's a four-time world champion. (Granted, him winning the TNA title was a bit strange, but still.)
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 15, 2022 7:06:53 GMT -5
I think of a Jannety as someone who not only isn't as good as their partner, but is also their own worst enemy. The Anvil never did anything to the level of Marty Jannety, he just wasn't as good as Bret, as an example. The ORIGINAL Jannety, though, in my opinion, is Tully Blanchard. Hey yo! From the Outsiders, it's Scott Hall. Hall should have been like Nash a multiple time World Champion, but his demons stopped that. Hall had it all, good in the ring, good on the microphone, and in a rare category with charisma.
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Post by sungod2020 on Aug 15, 2022 7:18:03 GMT -5
Even though he's had singles success and was even a World Champion(even if it was solely due to Edge retiring), Christian could be considered the Jannetty of Edge & Christian, though not as bad as Marty himself.
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