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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 15, 2022 15:43:34 GMT -5
Yeah... the professonial stagnation bit especially showed itself in the final Shawn/Marty confrontation. Shawn is in full HBK mode... clearly having left the Rockers behind and having more success because of it... and here comes Marty Jannetty, in the same type of gear to the same song and being the exact same guy... I think he turned up in wcw at some point with similar gear (didnt seem to last long.) during the early nwo to first nwo split. Yep, they signed him around when Thunder debuted, probably for filler reasons.
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Post by DSR on Aug 15, 2022 16:58:32 GMT -5
by my definition you CAN'T be a Janetty if you still had a really good career. so to me, guys like Christian and Matt Hardy don't count, even in the slightest. Yep..and listing Tully Blanchard as a Janetty is laughable. Just because a legend used cocaine doesn't place him in that category. Who's next on the list? Savage as the Janetty of the Megapowers..or is it Hogan for his problems?If the list is going to get ridiculous...why not go all out? Yeah, there hasn't been a ton of them, but I've seen mention of the Two-Man Power Trip and (admittedly Foley himself said it) The Rock N Sock Connection? Those are pairings of already established stars. It's like comparing members of a supergroup to a band like Wham! Shawn Michaels is the Jannetty of the "HBKena" tag team with John Cena, I guess...?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 17:23:40 GMT -5
Jannetty is the Jannetty of the New Rockers as Al Snow had a hot few years after in ECW and the Attitude Era.
James Storm is the Jannetty of Beer Money and I guess Angelina Love the Jannetty of The Beautiful People.
Bart Gunn ended up the Jannetty of The Smoking Guns despite doing very little wrong other than being a bit bland.
AEW are a bit too young to feel the lasting repercussions of any of the splits (both Jungle boy/Luchasaurus and Christian will be fine, no Jannetty there) maybe Shaun Spears is the Jannetty of his partnerships with both Cody and MJF.
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Post by chrom on Aug 15, 2022 17:38:26 GMT -5
Can't call Tully a Jannetty given he won higher tier singles competition than Arn did before they teamed up. Arn never got past the level of The TV Title as a singles star.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Aug 15, 2022 18:30:06 GMT -5
Big Show in Jerishow? Jericho was clearly the leader/more important guy then when they split he won the world title while Big Show just moved straight into another tag team with Miz where he again was the sidekick to the other guy they were getting ready to give a singles push to.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 15, 2022 19:46:49 GMT -5
I think he turned up in wcw at some point with similar gear (didnt seem to last long.) during the early nwo to first nwo split. Yep, they signed him around when Thunder debuted, probably for filler reasons. Yeah he was in that cruiserweight Battle Royale that Malenko won disguised as Hallowicked. He came out in his Rockers gear and Jericho made fun of him for still doing that schtick in 1998.
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Post by Casey Jones on Aug 15, 2022 20:02:36 GMT -5
Marty also ended up being the Janetty of the New Rockers. lol And whatever the name of the team he had with 1,2,3 kid.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 15, 2022 20:08:22 GMT -5
Yep, they signed him around when Thunder debuted, probably for filler reasons. Yeah he was in that cruiserweight Battle Royale that Malenko won disguised as Hallowicked. He came out in his Rockers gear and Jericho made fun of him for still doing that schtick in 1998. Ciclope. he was Halloween when he was unmasked later... Hallowicked is a completely different guy.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Aug 15, 2022 20:09:49 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior in his team with Sting. Warrior would become WWF Champion and pin Hulk Hogan in the main event of Wresltemania, but Sting would go on to be the face of wrestling outside of WWE for quite a while.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 15, 2022 20:25:10 GMT -5
Yeah he was in that cruiserweight Battle Royale that Malenko won disguised as Hallowicked. He came out in his Rockers gear and Jericho made fun of him for still doing that schtick in 1998. Ciclope. he was Halloween when he was unmasked later... Hallowicked is a completely different guy. Right! My memory is kinda spotty at times.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 15, 2022 22:43:54 GMT -5
Marty also ended up being the Janetty of the New Rockers. lol And whatever the name of the team he had with 1,2,3 kid. I do want to say, it's kind of awesome they reunited to take on the Young Bucks.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Aug 15, 2022 23:36:09 GMT -5
Dynamite Kid was the Jannetty of the British Bulldogs.
Ron Simmons was the Jannetty of the APA.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Aug 16, 2022 0:50:22 GMT -5
I think a lot of these examples really do not fit the Jannetty mold.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 16, 2022 2:11:20 GMT -5
I think he turned up in wcw at some point with similar gear (didnt seem to last long.) during the early nwo to first nwo split. My only memory of Jannetty in WCW was him getting squashed in around a minute by Jericho immediately before the "Man of 1,004 Holds" promo.
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Post by Garyspivey on Aug 16, 2022 11:44:09 GMT -5
Well then what's your definition of a Jannetty? Who would qualify as one? I don't think Christian is a Jannetty in the same way Marty was(as stated in my post), but he certainly hasn't had the same success as Edge even though the potential might've been there(like his 2005 run). It should be noted though that this was a booking issue rather than any personal demons he may or may not have had. I do agree the term "Jannetty" has been thrown around more often than not. for me to be a Janetty, the one guy has to REALLY fall off while the other guy goes on to successful things. there's actualy probably fewer true examples of it in this business than you'd think. there's such a massive disparity between Shawn Michaels and Marty Janetty that calling the guy who just won fewer world titles a Janetty seems like a gross exaggeration to me. it isn't required but spiraling into a public embarrassment like Marty has definitely helps when determining if someone is truly a Janetty, too. Would that make Marty Scurll the Janetty of the Elite/bullet club
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Post by tafkaga on Aug 16, 2022 11:51:17 GMT -5
This thread is a mess. Tully Blanchard a Jannetty? What? Dynamite Kid a Jannetty? What?? Brian Pillman a Jannetty? WHAT??? WHAT?
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 16, 2022 12:01:24 GMT -5
Jannetty is the Jannetty of the New Rockers as Al Snow had a hot few years after in ECW and the Attitude Era. James Storm is the Jannetty of Beer Money and I guess Angelina Love the Jannetty of The Beautiful People. Bart Gunn ended up the Jannetty of The Smoking Guns despite doing very little wrong other than being a bit bland. AEW are a bit too young to feel the lasting repercussions of any of the splits (both Jungle boy/Luchasaurus and Christian will be fine, no Jannetty there) maybe Shaun Spears is the Jannetty of his partnerships with both Cody and MJF. I would say that Velvet Sky is the "Jannetty" of The Beautiful People, since she was the least successful member of that stable, with both Angelina & Madison having more success.
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Post by The Blue Nova on Aug 16, 2022 13:03:57 GMT -5
Dynamite Kid was the Jannetty of the British Bulldogs. Ron Simmons was the Jannetty of the APA. I DIsagree. Ron is a former World Champion plus had a great run with Doom:) Ron was a vet and where JBL was much newer... So Ron is not a Jannetty
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 16, 2022 16:01:30 GMT -5
The more I read this the more I think "Marty set the bar for comical failure so high that nobody else is even close"
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Post by Casey Jones on Aug 16, 2022 21:02:30 GMT -5
This thread is a mess. Tully Blanchard a Jannetty? What? Dynamite Kid a Jannetty? What?? Brian Pillman a Jannetty? WHAT??? WHAT? I based it on the absurdity of Foley calling himself a Jannetty in comparison to The Rock. In my eyes, this thread was made in jest. Macho Man being the Jannetty of the Mega Powers is a prime example. That being said. Dan Spivy is the Jannetty of the Sky Scrapers.
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