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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 8, 2022 6:59:09 GMT -5
I hope the guy takes all the time he needs to rest his back. If he was as close to calling it quits as was reported, then yeah, take this time and let things heal. Both physically and mentally. When he does come back I kinda hope he goes back to WWE. TK doesn't really get how to push supernatural/spooky based characters. Malakai came in with an awesome bit of backstory and a kick-ass vignette he had filmed. Other than the Cody feud he was just treading water (kind of a common occurrence for a lot of talent in a place that has a LOT of talent), and I wonder if Black's hesitancy to come to an agreement on that meeting he had was based in the fact he didn't trust the company to let him spread his wings creatively since he'd been stifled for a lot of his tenure there. We'll see. I hope he returns in some capacity and is given the chance to show everyone the unique brand of storytelling that only he can bring to wrestling right now. Might sound silly to some, but I think Black could fill that Undertaker sized hole in WWE pretty good right about now. All reports indicate that Malakai had no issues with creative nor was he unhappy in AEW as a performer. Ah, fair then. I read too much into it. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 8, 2022 7:02:24 GMT -5
that seems like the type of thing that would be thrown out of court if it was ever legally challenged. There’s precedence for this actually, Raven/WCW and Randy Couture/UFC immediately come to mind. Raven’s WCW release stipulated he couldn’t go to WWF until his WCW contract would’ve expired, and Randy Couture tried to “retire” from UFC and go fight Fedor and was in a legal battle for about a year and ended up returning to UFC. Brock, CM Punk and Alberto del Rio were all different because WWE tried to block them from basically doing any wrestling, MMA or even television. As long as there’s stipulations he can return to wrestling, just not WWE, within a reasonable amount of time then I’m pretty sure this would hold up What Couture tried to do is different as he wasn’t released from his deal. Blacks is similar to Raven but I don’t think Raven challenged it. If he’s released I have trouble imagining that they are stipulating he can’t work for WWE through 2026. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 8, 2022 11:01:59 GMT -5
Dude's so ridiculously talented, it'd be such a shame if he hangs 'em up or anything. Hope he takes all the time he needs, regardless, going through physical pain that likely hurt some mental health issues has to just be a nightmare.
In the meantime, it's possible this could be a good thing for the other members of HoB; this should give them opportunities to shine more on their own, or you could go with Brody and Buddy as a tag team, whatever works. As of now their main characters are that they serve under Malakai, but now's a chance for them to be more as individuals.
Hope Black makes it back and feels refreshed at some point. Also makes sense to make it conditional on him not going back to WWE or whatever, after the apparent contract tampering (ol' Haitch just can't help himself on that, can he?) they really can't let WWE have anything lest it create a pretty destructive precedent.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Sept 11, 2022 2:34:27 GMT -5
Hope he gets right and healthy mentally and physically, but if I'm being honest I could happily never watch him in WWE or AEW again.
He's athletic, but he's not all that interesting to me- he has great strikes and his backflip sit thing but I've never found a match of his enjoyable.
And promo/character wise, not a fan. That promo at All Out honestly made me burst out laughing. Pure word salad gibberish. There's a reason he got the nickname Kicky McDarksoul and I don't think it's WWE to blame.
Good luck to him and all but I think it is probably a good thing for AEW, as well as for him.
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Post by jimmycon on Sept 11, 2022 2:41:41 GMT -5
Hope he gets right and healthy mentally and physically, but if I'm being honest I could happily never watch him in WWE or AEW again. He's athletic, but he's not all that interesting to me- he has great strikes and his backflip sit thing but I've never found a match of his enjoyable. And promo/character wise, not a fan. That promo at All Out honestly made me burst out laughing. Pure word salad gibberish. There's a reason he got the nickname Kicky McDarksoul and I don't think it's WWE to blame. Good luck to him and all but I think it is probably a good thing for AEW, as well as for him. I loved him in NXT, don’t think the spooky character actually does him any favours. Just have him be a badass kickboxing dude and he’s great. He can still have the creative entrance etc |
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 11, 2022 2:50:34 GMT -5
I want him back in WWE only to see him have a fair chance to do the Dark Father character with HHH in charge of creative.
I think that had a TON of potential.
And it'd have to be better than Vince keeping him in a masturbatorium with no end game, right?
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Sept 11, 2022 4:26:54 GMT -5
I hope the guy takes all the time he needs to rest his back. If he was as close to calling it quits as was reported, then yeah, take this time and let things heal. Both physically and mentally. When he does come back I kinda hope he goes back to WWE. TK doesn't really get how to push supernatural/spooky based characters. Malakai came in with an awesome bit of backstory and a kick-ass vignette he had filmed. Other than the Cody feud he was just treading water (kind of a common occurrence for a lot of talent in a place that has a LOT of talent), and I wonder if Black's hesitancy to come to an agreement on that meeting he had was based in the fact he didn't trust the company to let him spread his wings creatively since he'd been stifled for a lot of his tenure there. We'll see. I hope he returns in some capacity and is given the chance to show everyone the unique brand of storytelling that only he can bring to wrestling right now. Might sound silly to some, but I think Black could fill that Undertaker sized hole in WWE pretty good right about now. All reports indicate that Malakai had no issues with creative nor was he unhappy in AEW as a performer. Yeah, I mean, he vented that he seemingly had unlimited creative control over his character. But I HIGHLY doubt he enjoyed doing that as a lower card guy this year. He was treated like a big deal last summer and then it all went away within a couple months. Much like how Toni Storm didn’t leave WWE due to “burnout” as what was being reported before we spoke out after her 90 days, Black I’m sure mentioned his mental health to Tony. What he probably DIDN’T share was how his depression was triggered. And for all we know, it could’ve been in a whole host of ways. The big one is that he likely REALLY missed seeing his wife and wished he was traveling with her throughout his struggles. HHH taking over was probably a major moment to him because he LOVED working under him at NXT. I remember him talking about his depression battle while he was in his NXT run. And then he won the NXT championship and he lit up like a little kid. He was uncharacteristically smiling and everything. It was wild. He looked like such a f***ing star. And while, yes, AEW gave him free reign to do whatever he wanted, he’s done all of that in the lower card. The guy was sadly an afterthought on AEW programming. It’s only a matter of time before he returns to WWE to be the babyface he was when he ruled NXT. And he can do it alongside his wife with a boss that he knows won’t treat him like an afterthought. And his mental health will improve significantly. I’m really rooting for it to work out for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 5:54:38 GMT -5
Black for me is a guy I find fascinating in ring. I love guys and/or gals who have a unique way of moving around the ring and delivering moves and Black had that in spades.
In terms of character/persona... teenage goth me would've loved it. But otherwise, not my vibe. It comes across try hard and I just don't feel it. To be honest, outside his debut angle with Cody he wasn't really done much to garner opinion one way or another, apart from the Sting staredown.
I think he ends up back in WWE. Hunter will push him, his wife is there, hopefully he'll be happier.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 11, 2022 8:31:55 GMT -5
All reports indicate that Malakai had no issues with creative nor was he unhappy in AEW as a performer. Yeah, I mean, he vented that he seemingly had unlimited creative control over his character. But I HIGHLY doubt he enjoyed doing that as a lower card guy this year. He was treated like a big deal last summer and then it all went away within a couple months. Much like how Toni Storm didn’t leave WWE due to “burnout” as what was being reported before we spoke out after her 90 days, Black I’m sure mentioned his mental health to Tony. What he probably DIDN’T share was how his depression was triggered. And for all we know, it could’ve been in a whole host of ways. The big one is that he likely REALLY missed seeing his wife and wished he was traveling with her throughout his struggles. HHH taking over was probably a major moment to him because he LOVED working under him at NXT. I remember him talking about his depression battle while he was in his NXT run. And then he won the NXT championship and he lit up like a little kid. He was uncharacteristically smiling and everything. It was wild. He looked like such a f***ing star. And while, yes, AEW gave him free reign to do whatever he wanted, he’s done all of that in the lower card. The guy was sadly an afterthought on AEW programming. It’s only a matter of time before he returns to WWE to be the babyface he was when he ruled NXT. And he can do it alongside his wife with a boss that he knows won’t treat him like an afterthought. And his mental health will improve significantly. I’m really rooting for it to work out for him. See that's the thing for me as well. I was hearing reports that he was unhappy with creative, and didn't feel like he was being used properly. But then again we're also hearing panic rumors that The Elite want to sign with WWE, so it's hard to know what's legit and what's blown out of proportion. |
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Post by wankah on Sept 11, 2022 8:40:50 GMT -5
That whole HOB stuff was about the most cringeworthy thing in AEW since the Nightmare collective, so maybe having all that creative freedom isn't really good for him.
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Post by Kalmia on Sept 11, 2022 9:24:04 GMT -5
I always like the HOB more when they're being metal ass kickers than spooky pseudo-intellectuals.
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 13, 2022 15:27:22 GMT -5
SRS apparently reporting that he heard the non-compete may be 1-2 years long.
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Post by Fade on Sept 13, 2022 15:44:55 GMT -5
SRS apparently reporting that he heard the non-compete may be 1-2 years long. Guy’s 37. Not the worst thing but still sucks if he ever plans to go to the ‘E. |
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Post by Chris Legentil -- Mind Freak on Sept 13, 2022 16:15:08 GMT -5
SRS apparently reporting that he heard the non-compete may be 1-2 years long. f***ing hell |
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Sept 13, 2022 16:32:14 GMT -5
I mean I suppose it depends on what the conditions are about the non-compete i.e. if it’s only applicable to a US wrestling on US Network TV i.e. WWE or what but feels a bit…..I dunno
And hey I know you start granted releases left and right then what’s the point of contracts, and then why bother with long term plans so I dunno in general lol
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Post by Chiral on Sept 13, 2022 16:48:14 GMT -5
TK: "I heard this great thing TNAs got going on...."
Malakai: "........"
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 13, 2022 16:59:10 GMT -5
That whole HOB stuff was about the most cringeworthy thing in AEW since the Nightmare collective, so maybe having all that creative freedom isn't really good for him. House of Black's presentation was, and is incredibly awesome, and I didn't mind the promos one bit The only thing that for me really sucked about it was the Julia Hart angle going on for way too long, but she's a perfect fit with them. |
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Post by Cyno on Sept 13, 2022 17:07:41 GMT -5
If he had only a few months left on his contract with that big of a non-complete clause, that'd be bullshit. But he left after one year of a 5 year contract. And with the mental and physical health problems he's supposed to be having, wrestling is probably the last thing on his mind at the moment.
Seems like a fair compromise to me as long as it only applies to WWE and not like Impact, New Japan, etc, especially with the context of Triple H poking his nose around and trying to poach talent. I'm sure Malakai Black isn't a complete scumbag and faking serious health issues just so he can end up in Papa H's loving embrace, but you don't want to set a precedent.
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Post by Chiral on Sept 13, 2022 18:48:55 GMT -5
I keep reading the thread title in the cadence of Cody's weird promo "Maaalaakaaaiii Blaaaaaaack 😏"
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 13, 2022 18:53:13 GMT -5
Isn't it 6 months and then 6 months of AEW having first refusal rights? As Phantom Notification said, he left early on in a long term contract and probably needs a long time away from wrestling with his physical & mental health issues. Also the first refusal is almost certainly so that he can't just bounce back to AEW now that we know that the Papa H run WWE tried to engage in contract tampering almost immediately.
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