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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Sept 6, 2022 13:22:10 GMT -5
Thinking about how hilarious and totally narrative-f***ing it is that Aldo Montoya at his absolute lowest was a member of the gang and now I'm wondering, were there any other dudes that were inexplicably Clique Born & Raised that no one talks about??
My money's on Tekno Team 2000 cause they probably got relentless amounts of pussy in 95.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 6, 2022 13:23:16 GMT -5
Was Louie Spicolli one, or am I thinking of his time with the nWo on-screen?
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Sept 6, 2022 13:23:48 GMT -5
Was Louie Spicolli one, or am I thinking of his time with the nWo on-screen? Oh f*** no you're absolutely right, he definitely was
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Sept 6, 2022 14:38:41 GMT -5
Savio Vega was the most connected guy in the company in the 90s. He was Razor's mentor in Puerto Rico and on good terms with Kid, was a member of the BSKs with Taker and Yoko, and was on friendly terms with Bret, plus he was one of the few guys willing to help get the Goldust gimmick over. If anyone should've gotten a thank you run with a belt, it was him.
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Post by XIII on Sept 6, 2022 14:41:11 GMT -5
Savio Vega was the most connected guy in the company in the 90s. He was Razor's mentor in Puerto Rico and on good terms with Kid, was a member of the BSKs with Taker and Yoko, and was on friendly terms with Bret, plus he was one of the few guys willing to help get the Goldust gimmick over. If anyone should've gotten a thank you run with a belt, it was him. all this tells me is that Sávio was likely the drug hook up. lol As for Aldo Montoya and Louie Spicoli, weren’t they just bitch boys for the stars? Carrying their bags and stuff? I doubt that the actual Kliq considers them members at all.
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Post by nickcave on Sept 6, 2022 15:14:44 GMT -5
Was Louie Spicolli one, or am I thinking of his time with the nWo on-screen? He was more Scott Hall's friend that would get drugs for him I believe, I don't think Nash liked him very much.
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Post by agent817 on Sept 6, 2022 15:19:12 GMT -5
Savio Vega was the most connected guy in the company in the 90s. He was Razor's mentor in Puerto Rico and on good terms with Kid, was a member of the BSKs with Taker and Yoko, and was on friendly terms with Bret, plus he was one of the few guys willing to help get the Goldust gimmick over. If anyone should've gotten a thank you run with a belt, it was him. all this tells me is that Sávio was likely the drug hook up. lol As for Aldo Montoya and Louie Spicoli, weren’t they just bitch boys for the stars? Carrying their bags and stuff? I doubt that the actual Kliq considers them members at all. I know Justin Credible (yes, I know you used the Aldo Montoya name, but still, same guy) was friends with Scott Hall and I believe Sean Waltman as well (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think Shawn Michaels, Hunter, or Nash were that cool with him.
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Post by nickcave on Sept 6, 2022 15:24:51 GMT -5
From what I can tell Scott Hall was always more friendly with the lower card guys and would take them under his wing (for better or worse) and he was usually the guy most willing to lose to whoever
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 6, 2022 15:53:29 GMT -5
From what I can tell Scott Hall was always more friendly with the lower card guys and would take them under his wing (for better or worse) and he was usually the guy most willing to lose to whoever Except Douglas. Wonder who got in Hall's ear about that one.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 6, 2022 15:54:58 GMT -5
Masahiro Chono? Every time the Outsiders toured Japan, Chono was always the one they worked with.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 6, 2022 18:42:22 GMT -5
Nash said in one of his shoots that when the clique was split in different tour loops Jeff Jarrett was one of the first guys they'd ask to ride with them.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2022 18:58:42 GMT -5
In addition to Savio, while Mick was still more of a Bret guy than anything else, he got along with the Kliq, Harts, and BSK. It helped he was a family man who was a history nerd like Bret, that he was very friendly with Nash and liked working with Triple H and making him look good, and Undertaker liked him for being a refreshing feud when he was really sick of facing monsters of the week. From what I can tell Scott Hall was always more friendly with the lower card guys and would take them under his wing (for better or worse) and he was usually the guy most willing to lose to whoever Except Douglas. Wonder who got in Hall's ear about that one. Knowing Douglas? Douglas. Even in Have a Nice Day where Mick is putting him over as his fellow trainee and one of his earliest friends in the business, he still makes a point of Douglas having an attitude and being intensely bitter about how his WWF went, but that he was his own worst enemy, so some of that was probably self-inflicted.
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Post by Main Eventer on Sept 6, 2022 19:14:23 GMT -5
Was Louie Spicolli one, or am I thinking of his time with the nWo on-screen? He was more Scott Hall's friend that would get drugs for him I believe, I don't think Nash liked him very much. Probably because Louie was getting Hall drugs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2022 19:32:56 GMT -5
From what I can tell Scott Hall was always more friendly with the lower card guys and would take them under his wing (for better or worse) and he was usually the guy most willing to lose to whoever That's cause Razor was never a mark for himself. He knew what the business was. Its all a show. A performance. Nobody really "wins" anything. You win when you make the most money. Which he did. Razor didn't give a f*** about losing some fake matches if it meant he would get paid good for it. And that's the way it should be. That's why he was never World Champion. He didn't want the hassle of carrying it around everywhere.
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Post by celtics543 on Sept 7, 2022 13:32:51 GMT -5
From what I can tell Scott Hall was always more friendly with the lower card guys and would take them under his wing (for better or worse) and he was usually the guy most willing to lose to whoever That's cause Razor was never a mark for himself. He knew what the business was. Its all a show. A performance. Nobody really "wins" anything. You win when you make the most money. Which he did. Razor didn't give a f*** about losing some fake matches if it meant he would get paid good for it. And that's the way it should be. That's why he was never World Champion. He didn't want the hassle of carrying it around everywhere. If Scott Hall had been able to conquer his demons earlier in life I think he would've been one of the all time great wrestlers. He understood how the business works and the purpose of it better than anyone. He'd put guys over with no issue. He never wanted or needed a belt. Had an incredible charisma and character. Guy just wanted to make a ton of money and be entertaining. He's kind of like Brock Lesnar in that respect. I truly think the Kliq, when they were all sober, were guys who loved the business and wanted to make a ton of money and had no issue making other people look good. The problem was that they were mostly all on drugs and became huge assholes. Even HHH put over Henry Godwinn in a slop match. Shawn put over Marty, Sid, etc. Nash put guys over when the time was right. Hall obviously was willing to put anyone over. I think their sober selves were just frustrated because they only wanted to put over guys who loved the business like they did. When they got drugged up it became belligerent and that's when problems arose. I love Bret but it's easy to see why the two sides didn't get along, their perspectives were completely different. Bret wanted the prestige more than the money. Kliq wanted to be paid.
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Post by The Blue Nova on Sept 14, 2022 0:07:51 GMT -5
In Shoot Interviews out of all the Clique Guys 123 kid seemed to be the most liked out of all of them. and It says alot about Mick Foley that he got along with 1997 era Shawn Michaels
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Sept 14, 2022 0:21:32 GMT -5
My full'ish recap of '90s WF groups...
The Clique: Hall Nash Waltman Credible Spicoli HHH HBK Double J Road Dogg
The Clique's "Targets": Douglas Bam Bam PCO Candido Vader (via HBK) The Rock (via HHH)
BSK: 'Taker Godfather Fatu Samu Bearer Savio H.O.G. Crush Brian Lee?
Hart Family Tree & Friends: Bret Owen Anvil Pillman Bulldog Shamrock The Rock Foley Blackman Mark Henry Perfect Furnas LaFon
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Post by The Blue Nova on Sept 14, 2022 0:24:47 GMT -5
My full'ish recap of '90s WF groups... The Clique: Hall Nash Waltman Credible Spicoli HHH HBK Double J Road Dogg The Clique's "Targets": Douglas Bam Bam PCO Candido Vader (via HBK) The Rock (via HHH) BSK: 'Taker Godfather Fatu Samu Bearer Savio H.O.G. Crush Brian Lee? Hart Family Tree & Friends: Bret Owen Anvil Pillman Bulldog Shamrock The Rock Foley Blackman Mark Henry Perfect Furnas LaFon For BSK guys Yoko Fuji and Dennis Knight was i it to. and wasn't bulldog in the klique?
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 14, 2022 0:56:51 GMT -5
Me. I was only 5 years old at the height of their power, and didn't start watching wrestling until 2005, but I was the Kliq's higher power.
It was me PCO. It was me all along PCO!
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 14, 2022 2:46:24 GMT -5
My full'ish recap of '90s WF groups... The Clique: Hall Nash Waltman Credible Spicoli HHH HBK Double J Road Dogg The Clique's "Targets": Douglas Bam Bam PCO Candido Vader (via HBK) The Rock (via HHH) BSK: 'Taker Godfather Fatu Samu Bearer Savio H.O.G. Crush Brian Lee? Hart Family Tree & Friends: Bret Owen Anvil Pillman Bulldog Shamrock The Rock Foley Blackman Mark Henry Perfect Furnas LaFon For BSK guys Yoko Fuji and Dennis Knight was i it to. and wasn't bulldog in the klique? Bulldog was out with Shawn and Kid when Shawn got beat up by a soldier in a bar, so they were close at one point, but as we saw with Bret, relationships probably disintegrated by 97 given the euro title asshattery.
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