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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 12, 2022 17:43:51 GMT -5
I'll listen to it at some time later. I think TK is a likeable guy but he tends to act like a fan too much and run his mouth which feeds ammo. Most likely comes from a "pure heart" place but as a guy running a company you need to step back sometimes
In regards to Ariel finding the interview a difficult one, considering he tends to ask tough questions and TK probably pivoting didn't help much. Neither side is really wrong as the questions can be asked and not answered.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 12, 2022 17:49:24 GMT -5
As a journalist, you have to make peace with the fact that your interviewee can't or won't answer your questions. It's frustrating but it's part of the job unfortunately.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 12, 2022 17:53:14 GMT -5
I'll listen to it at some time later. I think TK is a likeable guy but he tends to act like a fan too much and run his mouth which feeds ammo. Most likely comes from a "pure heart" place but as a guy running a company you need to step back sometimes In regards to Ariel finding the interview a difficult one, considering he tends to ask tough questions and TK probably pivoting didn't help much. Neither side is really wrong as the questions can be asked and not answered. Mostly was Tony saying he wasn't going to talk about contracts. The only time I thought he was a little iffy was when he wouldn't even say if he had interest in Bray Wyatt in the past. Most of those questions to me seem more like Tony was told by Megha or someone else to just keep it vague and promote the show
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 12, 2022 18:00:39 GMT -5
Helwani recently interviewed Seth Rollins. And Seth was surprisingly open and candid about a number of different things.
I can imagine going from that, to a guy in TK who tries to dodge every question of substance while also wanted a platform to promote his product, might be frustrating.
It’s supposed to be a two way street.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 12, 2022 18:01:05 GMT -5
Whoever this Helwani guy is, his follow-up rant telling people that you're a "liar" if you think AEW's product is better than WWE's really makes him seem a bit of a schmuck.
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 12, 2022 18:06:58 GMT -5
Meltzer has been pretty critical of AEW’s not saying ANYTHING either over the past few months.
And he feels it can affect the onscreen product as well (which I somewhat agree with honestly).
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Post by dreamghost on Oct 12, 2022 18:11:36 GMT -5
Only if Tony ponied up the money for him to narrate some ppv openers…
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 12, 2022 18:12:17 GMT -5
Meltzer has been pretty critical of AEW’s not saying ANYTHING either over the past few months. And he feels it can affect the onscreen product as well (which I somewhat agree with honestly). To an extent yes. There are some things AEW should say a bit more about. I don't really think Tony was being super unreasonable in this interview. At least not to the point where Ariel's rant was warranted.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 12, 2022 18:16:10 GMT -5
Dave's criticism stems from a hope that Tony would treat AEW more like a sports team in terms of media transparency with things like injuries and contracts. And I get why he would given Tony's background. But I think was never likely to be the case. Tony was always likely to see them as apples and oranges. And wrestling at its core is a simulated sport more akin to theater than anything else. Just as a theater tells you when someone won't perform, a company should tell you when a match is off. But don't expect to know the full details of every actor's contract.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Oct 12, 2022 18:17:53 GMT -5
I think there's more to this than meets the eye probably. Be random for Ariel to completely burn a bridge with AEW based off just a boring interview.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 18:20:55 GMT -5
Considering everything helwani said after the interview, it's pretty hard to believe there's not more to this on his end and he's not exactly holding up his deal as an unbiased interviewer either.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 12, 2022 18:21:13 GMT -5
I think there's more to this than meets the eye probably. Be random for Ariel to completely burn a bridge with AEW based off just a boring interview. Tony kind of brushed it off at the beginning of the interview but it does seem pretty clear that even if it isn't Tony directly there's some coolness between Ariel and AEW likely from the MJF interview
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Oct 12, 2022 18:30:12 GMT -5
I am a million miles removed from an AEW mark but isn't Ariel tied to BT sport in some way and they have the rights to WWE programming? Always got the impression he was just a promotional interviewer with WWE talent and management rather than a probing journalist.
Full disclosure I've not watched many of his interviews in full so I could be wrong and I'm happy to be corrected.
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Post by dreidemy on Oct 12, 2022 18:31:09 GMT -5
Ariel looks like an idiot taking shots at AEW just because TK didn't fuel more drama
and LMAO @ Meltzer being mad that AEW doesn't seem to trust the dirt sheets as it once did after all the Malakai leaked shit and more
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Post by Cyno on Oct 12, 2022 18:43:22 GMT -5
Dave's criticism stems from a hope that Tony would treat AEW more like a sports team in terms of media transparency with things like injuries and contracts. And I get why he would given Tony's background. But I think was never likely to be the case. Tony was always likely to see them as apples and oranges. And wrestling at its core is a simulated sport more akin to theater than anything else. Just as a theater tells you when someone won't perform, a company should tell you when a match is off. But don't expect to know the full details of every actor's contract. The only reason we know about sports contracts is because of collective bargaining rules and the agents of athletes using the deals to promote how good they are at their jobs at getting top dollar for their clients. I'm sure the top earners in the industry like Roman, Lesnar, etc. make very good money. I seriously doubt they're making Big Four upper echelon pro athlete money. An NBA max contract, franchise quarterback, or Scott Boras client likely makes them look like paupers by comparison.
Plus, Big Four sports leagues are way bigger news than wrestling. Teams of legitimate journalists from ESPN, SI, The Athletic, and local papers across the country report on new player contracts, with the resources of billion dollar media entities to match. Pro wrestling reporting at best has the likes of Meltzer and Sapp who still rely on Patreon and newsletter subscriptions to just make ends meet.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 12, 2022 18:51:05 GMT -5
Kinda coming off like a clown here, Ariel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 19:03:12 GMT -5
Helwani recently interviewed Seth Rollins. And Seth was surprisingly open and candid about a number of different things. I can imagine going from that, to a guy in TK who tries to dodge every question of substance while also wanted a platform to promote his product, might be frustrating. It’s supposed to be a two way street. Ariel has been a very prominent journalist in the sports world namely MMA since the mid 2000s. He has never pulled punches. He has a very bitter long standing feud with Dana White for what Dana feels was Ariel leaking information but as a journalist Ariel has stated that you don't sit on news. The fact that Khan went on knowing Ariel was going to come with more than pre-approved questions is likely what fueled this statement. Definitely a double edged sword. I do not necessarily agree with him but this situation basically turned into Austin/Moxley it sounds like.
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Oct 12, 2022 19:08:49 GMT -5
I'll listen to it at some time later. I think TK is a likeable guy but he tends to act like a fan too much and run his mouth which feeds ammo. Most likely comes from a "pure heart" place but as a guy running a company you need to step back sometimes In regards to Ariel finding the interview a difficult one, considering he tends to ask tough questions and TK probably pivoting didn't help much. Neither side is really wrong as the questions can be asked and not answered. Legally, he really just can't say anything at the moment, not even how he was feeling. If it goes to litigation, literally anything said publicly can be brought up In saying that, he could have pivoted and talked more about how he rebounded on the following Dynamite (which was great). I think what you are seeing is someone who does not have a ton of experience doing media work and just being as safe as humanly possible
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 12, 2022 19:55:57 GMT -5
Whoever this Helwani guy is, his follow-up rant telling people that you're a "liar" if you think AEW's product is better than WWE's really makes him seem a bit of a schmuck. Helwani literally just worked for WWE providing voice over for Extreme Rules, he's as compromised as Ryan Satin.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 12, 2022 20:23:39 GMT -5
Helwani does what most sports radio do after they think a guest was an awful interview, they trash them for like an hour afterwards. That is the game of doing interviews, it's not like TK signed up for this out of pity or charity.
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