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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 31, 2022 14:10:21 GMT -5
Still tripping that Sid basically committed attempted murder and then just went about his career as a national tv star for several years.
What an unhinged business, dawg
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Post by tafkaga on Oct 31, 2022 15:20:23 GMT -5
It's kind of hilarious to me that these big guys were going after each other with broken bottles, table legs, and scissors. Sid's squeegee is hilarious, but going after your coworker with a broken bottle or a pair of scissors because he said your friend was old is ridiculous on an entirely different level.
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Post by Stu on Oct 31, 2022 16:26:39 GMT -5
Still tripping that Sid basically committed attempted murder and then just went about his career as a national tv star for several years. What an unhinged business, dawg Everything in this thread makes it sound like Arn was the aggressor and Sid reacted in self defense. |
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Post by tirtefaa on Oct 31, 2022 16:37:38 GMT -5
Good thing Arn travelled in the car that didn't have a glock in the glove department that day. "You see officer, I shot him because he was complaining about how business was struggling due to my sleazy racist friend who is part of the front office. I just couldn't let him do that. So I started taunting him, flicking glass at him, and threatening him with a broken bottle. So after I got him all worked up, he came at me and I shot him in self defense!" Still kind of amazes me that people don't hold Arn in more contempt, simply because he ended up being the one getting the worse of the situation. Had it been Sid getting cut up, it would have been another "silly Sid" story like the squeegee or the squirrel in his pants. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 31, 2022 16:42:49 GMT -5
Still tripping that Sid basically committed attempted murder and then just went about his career as a national tv star for several years. What an unhinged business, dawg Everything in this thread makes it sound like Arn was the aggressor and Sid reacted in self defense. While not exactly true, Arn brought the scissors to the fight and stabbed Sid first, he just lost them in the scuffle. Sid came with a broken table leg or some thing like that. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 31, 2022 17:05:25 GMT -5
Everything in this thread makes it sound like Arn was the aggressor and Sid reacted in self defense. While not exactly true, Arn brought the scissors to the fight and stabbed Sid first, he just lost them in the scuffle. Sid came with a broken table leg or some thing like that. Yeah, both either were armed from the get-go or really quickly became armed. I get the vibe everyone involved treats it as basically temporary insanity from both parties at the tale end of too much drinking on an exhausting European tour. |
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Oct 31, 2022 17:08:24 GMT -5
thank god sid never told arn he was going BALD ... oh man THOSE episodes of nitro and thunder were just incredible, with all the feuds and incomers, not a minute went bye without a massive surprise coming out and absolutely whooping someone ... legit marked when mike awesome stormed out and laying waste to kevin nash! shane douglas going ham on ric "old" flair  but nothing compared to seeing vince ******* RUSSO onscreen .... THAT was a mind blowing moment even though it was for a short time, WCW was insanity |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 31, 2022 17:30:19 GMT -5
While not exactly true, Arn brought the scissors to the fight and stabbed Sid first, he just lost them in the scuffle. Sid came with a broken table leg or some thing like that. Yeah, both either were armed from the get-go or really quickly became armed. I get the vibe everyone involved treats it as basically temporary insanity from both parties at the tale end of too much drinking on an exhausting European tour. I believe it started in the pub when Sid said something about Flair being too old, in the early 90’s, think of that, and needed to get out of the way. |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 31, 2022 19:11:52 GMT -5
Yeah, both either were armed from the get-go or really quickly became armed. I get the vibe everyone involved treats it as basically temporary insanity from both parties at the tale end of too much drinking on an exhausting European tour. I believe it started in the pub when Sid said something about Flair being too old, in the early 90’s, think of that, and needed to get out of the way. Flair in 93 would of been the same age as Cena was last year when he was having special attraction matches |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 31, 2022 23:42:53 GMT -5
Still tripping that Sid basically committed attempted murder and then just went about his career as a national tv star for several years. What an unhinged business, dawg And then being on good terms today is even more wild lol |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 1, 2022 1:30:25 GMT -5
I wonder how Sid felt not getting invited to the Acclaimed "National Scissors Day" celebration in AEW a few weeks ago. Talk about a softball for a cameo... Softball? I see what you did there. đź‘Źđź‘Źđź‘Ź |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 1, 2022 1:35:12 GMT -5
Why the f*** would you pick a fight with Sid? Well, his last known fist fight he brought a squeegee as a weapon, so... A squeegee that Mike Graham of all people easily disarmed Sid of. How weird is it that Sid had no second thoughts about getting into it with first ballot HOF'er Arn, but wanted no part of a guy best known for being a WCW TV jobber? Wrestling is truly strange. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 1, 2022 1:40:33 GMT -5
30 years ago through my Facebook feed. Sid stabbed Arn several times and Arn almost died, yet they forgave eachother and are on good terms now lol. Anyone have more info on this? It started out at the hotel bar, everybody was drunk and tired from a long flight and Arn and Flair were talking about what was wrong with the business and why they weren’t drawing, when Sid said the problem was they had an old man like Flair who refused to move out of the way and Arn threw beer in his face. Everybody went to there rooms and according to Sid, Arn threatened him with a broken beer bottle in the hallway while he was on his way to his room. So Sid’s temper gets the better of him and he rips the leg off a hotel chair and goes to Arn’s door telling him to come out and try and cut him now. Arn came out, scissors in hand and was actually the one who stabbed Sid first, Sid then got ahold of the scissors and stabbed and beat Arn in return. 2 Cold Scorpio and Vader then broke up the fight and Vader saved Sid’s life by plugging up the stab wound in his stomach. Also according to Scorpio, even though Arn’s room was right next to both Flair and Steamboat’s, neither of them came out to help. Think Vader still would have saved Sid if Vader could have seen 3 years into the future and that Sid was going to take his spot as WWF champion? 🤔 |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 1, 2022 1:50:09 GMT -5
It's always weird when there's an incident that you consider such an infamous and integral part of the lore of pro wrestling, and then someone comes along saying "I've never heard of this, give me details". It's like someone saying "hey, I heard Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels had some issues back in 1997, anybody know what that was about?". Makes me feel really old. I have been a wrestling fan for 32 years. And I'd consider myself a hardcore wrestling fan for a majority of that time. And even I didn't know anything about this until the last 10 or 15 years. I was watching WCW every week in 93, I read every Apter magazine and C-List wrestling magazine I could find back then yet I still knew nothing about this incident until I gained internet access in the mid to late 2000's. It was not something anyone was talking about outside of maybe the Observer or something like that. All I knew was in the magazines Sid was advertised to main event Starrcade vs Vader and for some reason he was replaced. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 1, 2022 1:55:31 GMT -5
Well, his last known fist fight he brought a squeegee as a weapon, so... A squeegee that Mike Graham of all people easily disarmed Sid of. How weird is it that Sid had no second thoughts about getting into it with first ballot HOF'er Arn, but wanted no part of a guy best known for being a WCW TV jobber? Wrestling is truly strange. Not to mention Graham was also only like 5'7". And Sid was 6'9". Like you have that big of a size advantage and you have to get a weapon? And a squeegee of all things? |
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Nov 1, 2022 3:45:30 GMT -5
It started out at the hotel bar, everybody was drunk and tired from a long flight and Arn and Flair were talking about what was wrong with the business and why they weren’t drawing, when Sid said the problem was they had an old man like Flair who refused to move out of the way and Arn threw beer in his face. Everybody went to there rooms and according to Sid, Arn threatened him with a broken beer bottle in the hallway while he was on his way to his room. So Sid’s temper gets the better of him and he rips the leg off a hotel chair and goes to Arn’s door telling him to come out and try and cut him now. Arn came out, scissors in hand and was actually the one who stabbed Sid first, Sid then got ahold of the scissors and stabbed and beat Arn in return. 2 Cold Scorpio and Vader then broke up the fight and Vader saved Sid’s life by plugging up the stab wound in his stomach. Also according to Scorpio, even though Arn’s room was right next to both Flair and Steamboat’s, neither of them came out to help. Yeah, Sid got stabbed first, but stabbed Arn way more, which was part of why he got fired and not Arn, along with them probably not wanting to upset Flair. Eric Bischoff has said that they were going to fire Arn as well, but Ric Flair was able to talk them out of it. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 1, 2022 3:56:18 GMT -5
A squeegee that Mike Graham of all people easily disarmed Sid of. How weird is it that Sid had no second thoughts about getting into it with first ballot HOF'er Arn, but wanted no part of a guy best known for being a WCW TV jobber? Wrestling is truly strange. Not to mention Graham was also only like 5'7". And Sid was 6'9". Like you have that big of a size advantage and you have to get a weapon? And a squeegee of all things? I have to wonder if Sid just didn't especially want to get into an actual fight. Obviously, he can win one, he did here, but it also went a really f***ed up direction. Maybe his heart just wasn't in the Graham one, hence how it got so ridiculous. Sid is an odd one. |
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Nov 1, 2022 4:16:31 GMT -5
Why the f*** would you pick a fight with Sid? Because he has half the brain that you do. The altercation forced WCW to change plans for that year’s Starrcade, as Vader was supposed to defend the world title against Sid. WCW fired Sid after the incident and replaced him with Ric Flair. I often wonder what a match between the former Masters of the Power Bomb would have been like. We went to an arena event where one of the top matches scheduled was Sid vs. Vader. Gary Michael Cappetta told us 4 different times "Sid won't be able to make it, but we're trying hard to get Vader! We even chartered a plane!" We had no idea Sid was fired because of this incident. But Vader never showed (weather related issues), and they never explained why no Vader. Funniest part was that my brother brought himself that Sid Vicious T-shirt. (Okay, funniest to me.) |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Nov 1, 2022 7:51:01 GMT -5
It's always weird when there's an incident that you consider such an infamous and integral part of the lore of pro wrestling, and then someone comes along saying "I've never heard of this, give me details". It's like someone saying "hey, I heard Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels had some issues back in 1997, anybody know what that was about?". Makes me feel really old. Yeah that's what I was thinking. This was one of the first stories everyone learned about when they first got involved in online wrestling discussions back in the day. But I guess it's almost 30 years ago. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Nov 1, 2022 8:04:09 GMT -5
A squeegee that Mike Graham of all people easily disarmed Sid of. How weird is it that Sid had no second thoughts about getting into it with first ballot HOF'er Arn, but wanted no part of a guy best known for being a WCW TV jobber? Wrestling is truly strange. Not to mention Graham was also only like 5'7". And Sid was 6'9". Like you have that big of a size advantage and you have to get a weapon? And a squeegee of all things? The initial fight was between Brian Pillman and Sid. Graham intervened and disarmed Sid of the squeegee. I know a squeegee is an unconventional weapon in a bar fight and not the first thing most people would reach for, but I never understood why it's become such a joke. You can't tell me a guy the size of Sid hitting someone with a squeegee isn't capable of doing some real damage. Especially those old ones with a wooden handle and metal frame. |
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