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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 5, 2022 19:21:11 GMT -5
Now there is a lot of recency bias and yes he did expose himself as a self absorbed prick but he did still have a legendary career and a successful return to AEW for the most part. Now if he came back and finished out his career properly and apologized and all that he would be looked at fondly, but what if he just fell off the face of the earth and maybe just did commentary for MMA shows or something? He doesn’t apologize or anything and just lives life mainly low key. I mean what he did isn’t even close to as bad as a lot of pro wrestlers that are still celebrated. CM Punk the performed entertained me, but I know for a fact I would never want to meet him or get to know him in person lol
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 6, 2022 1:39:19 GMT -5
Five years from now Punk sits at home Feeding Larry, he's all alone He turns on TV Guess who he sees Skater boys champ (and not TNT) He calls up his friend Steel already knows And hes already got tickets to see his show Punk tags along And stands in the crowd Looks up at the man that he held down
He was a skater boy You said, "See you later, boys" They weren't old enough for you Now they're all super stars No-selling shots by guitars Does your haggard face see what they're worth?
Sorry, Punk, but you missed out Well, tough, luck that boy is Sting's now They are still really good friends This is how your story ends Too bad that you couldn't see See the men those boys could be There is more that meets the eye I see the soul that is inside
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 6, 2022 1:52:39 GMT -5
Five years from now Punk sits at home Feeding Larry, he's all alone He turns on TV Guess who he sees Skater boys champ (and not TNT) He calls up his friend Steel already knows And hes already got tickets to see his show Punk tags along And stands in the crowd Looks up at the man that he held down He was a skater boy You said, "See you later, boys" They weren't old enough for you Now they're all super stars No-selling shots by guitars Does your haggard face see what they're worth? Sorry, Punk, but you missed out Well, tough, luck that boy is Sting's now They are still really good friends This is how your story ends Too bad that you couldn't see See the men those boys could be There is more that meets the eye I see the soul that is inside So AJ Lee leaves Punk and he hooks up with Avril Lavigne? Or does AJ leave Punk for Avril Lavigne? Why they gotta make things so Complicated? Or does Darby Allen ride thru Punk's living room on his Skateboard and steal Punk from AJ while Sting looks down sad from the Chimney?
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Crow T. Robot
Captain Pixel: the Game Master
I ❤ Aniki
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Post by Dub H on Dec 6, 2022 7:09:07 GMT -5
a talented whiny baby
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Push R Truth
Patti Mayonnaise
Unique and Special Snowflake, and a pants-less heathen.
Perpetually Constipated
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 6, 2022 7:57:20 GMT -5
The cranky old wrestler we mock for having wacky opinions on why current wrestling is bad.
Not as bad as Superstar Billy Graham, Virgil or Konnan, but not as far as you'd hope from them either. He'll pretend like he's some intellectual dude that's cool like Nash but he'll really be more of a bullshit artist like Hogan or flat out delusional like... well, Hogan. Ok maybe not that bad. It would be kinda funny if he ends up being like Ryback 2.0 online.
He had some real talent and worked the crowd well at the start, but it kinda felt like he over-estimated his own importance AND his body's ability. Because of how it all ended his legacy will be mostly negative even though he did a lot well. But it's hard to whitewash the scrum. It's kinda like the old story: If you came to my house and had the finest drinks, the best steaks, the most delicious salads, amazing seafood... but if my dessert was a turd on a muffin you'd say that dinner was bad and you'd never come back.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 6, 2022 8:06:48 GMT -5
As a much much more talented Shane Douglas
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King Koopa
Shingo Takagi stan
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Post by clifford on Dec 6, 2022 8:56:13 GMT -5
A dude that had everything facilitated for to have one of the greatest veteran runs in pro wrestling history, that all fell apart because he didn't realise what his limitations were physically and decided to nuke everything to dust because his ego wouldn't allow it any other way.
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tirtefaa
Unicron
If you wanna know the truth, you gotta dig up Johnny Booth.
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Post by tirtefaa on Dec 6, 2022 9:03:13 GMT -5
Pepsi Ice Cream Z-Pak Crabwalk Muffins
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2022 9:31:50 GMT -5
In some ways, I think he'll be remembered like Warrior.
A difficult to deal with asshole dickwipe narcissist who was also undeniably over.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 6, 2022 9:35:04 GMT -5
I think time heals all wounds and so long as he just kind of does his own thing, I think he'll be remembered fondly.
I get people are angry right now, but the dude really did have one of the best one year stretches in the history of wrestling.
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lucas_lee
Hank Scorpio
Heel turn is finished, now stripping away my personality
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 6, 2022 9:39:13 GMT -5
A guy who could've been a bigger deal but he got in his own way and did dumb **** to derail himself. So like someone said he's a more talented Shane Douglas
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 6, 2022 11:18:21 GMT -5
Every real and imagined issue a person could name with CM Punk was before he sold out the United based on the rumour he might show up, and what happened with the Elite was too funny to have any negative lasting effect. All of them appear to have moved on so everybody'll be fine and Summerslam 2013, MITB 2011 and a ton of other things will come up before this. The guy survived the Crabwalk disaster and that was on real TV in a real sport actual people sort of respect. Everything CM Punk has achieved is so far and away in another stratosphere to Shane Douglas I almost feel bad for Shane for the first time ever by having to compare it. Douglas' moment was 94 and the steam was gone out of him by that afternoon. The guy was wrestling in tshirts with whole-boy roid belly and leaving voicemails for Bill Bush on XPW shows by 2000.
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Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by Fade on Dec 6, 2022 11:51:56 GMT -5
Five years from now Punk sits at home Feeding Larry, he's all alone He turns on TV Guess who he sees Skater boys champ (and not TNT) He calls up his friend Steel already knows And hes already got tickets to see his show Punk tags along And stands in the crowd Looks up at the man that he held down He was a skater boy You said, "See you later, boys" They weren't old enough for you Now they're all super stars No-selling shots by guitars Does your haggard face see what they're worth? Sorry, Punk, but you missed out Well, tough, luck that boy is Sting's now They are still really good friends This is how your story ends Too bad that you couldn't see See the men those boys could be There is more that meets the eye I see the soul that is inside This is f***ing incredible.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Dec 6, 2022 12:40:28 GMT -5
In some ways, I think he'll be remembered like Warrior. A difficult to deal with asshole dickwipe narcissist who was also undeniably over. Came in here to say this. The only difference is that Punk was ahead of the curve in mainstream wrestling by opening the door to expanded psychology while Warrior was the last of the roided out super-faces. Both flamed out due to being unamenable to Vince being Vince and thinking they had far more opportunities outside than they actually did, and when they came back for the competition the product had last them by and allowed their ego to push through questionable booking that hijacked what was previously a red hot product.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 6, 2022 13:02:59 GMT -5
He'll come back to wrestling, having one last WWE run where he'll be nice as pie and people will give him more of a pass than he deserves as a result because that's how it goes. look at How RVD behaved in Impact, halfassing matches when he couldn't get his own way and crapping over his colleagues in interviews, then how he was treated by fans in his final WWE run afterwards, and how he's considered to this day, still the cool weed guy.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 6, 2022 13:11:34 GMT -5
In some ways, I think he'll be remembered like Warrior. A difficult to deal with asshole dickwipe narcissist who was also undeniably over. Came in here to say this. The only difference is that Punk was ahead of the curve in mainstream wrestling by opening the door to expanded psychology while Warrior was the last of the roided out super-faces. Both flamed out due to being unamenable to Vince being Vince and thinking they had far more opportunities outside than they actually did, and when they came back for the competition the product had last them by and allowed their ego to push through questionable booking that hijacked what was previously a red hot product. The one difference is that Punk’s comics weren’t as fascinatingly nuts.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 6, 2022 13:17:52 GMT -5
The only difference is that Punk was ahead of the curve in mainstream wrestling by opening the door to expanded psychology while Warrior was the last of the roided out super-faces Haha yes the only difference! are you kidding? Other than it being popular guy returning then leaving i'm not seeing this. Where are the parallels? What hyped sold the f*** out houses did Warrior draw on his long and much wanted return? how many shows did Punk no show because he felt like? What red hot angles were needlessly put on the backburner by Tony to allow Punk TV time that wasnt good and nobody liked? Which undercard guys did Punk run over? How many of the workers dreaded working with him because he was a lazy unsafe chancer whos whole focus was doing as little as possible for the most money at a time when luckily for him wrestling was the biggest it's ever going to be? Punk flamed out because the work environment sucked shit and was loaded with c***s, and had been wrestling from about 1999 til he f***ed off without much of a break because he was f***ing great at it. The other left for the same reason 99.9 of wrestlers get mad and then let himself make the mistake of looking like a total dickhead without the safety net of a wrestling show behind him. All of this current Punk bullshit success included, came after the guy surived the Crabwalk debacle. Other than them being dickheads there's nothing here. The scrum was a nightmare but given how it's being seen and discussed outside of this forum (ie barely) i'm placing a bet on this entire thing being looked at as largely a success with a weird and funny ending.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Dec 6, 2022 14:55:16 GMT -5
The only difference is that Punk was ahead of the curve in mainstream wrestling by opening the door to expanded psychology while Warrior was the last of the roided out super-faces Haha yes the only difference! are you kidding? Other than it being popular guy returning then leaving i'm not seeing this. Where are the parallels? What hyped sold the f*** out houses did Warrior draw on his long and much wanted return? how many shows did Punk no show because he felt like? What red hot angles were needlessly put on the backburner by Tony to allow Punk TV time that wasnt good and nobody liked? Which undercard guys did Punk run over? How many of the workers dreaded working with him because he was a lazy unsafe chancer whos whole focus was doing as little as possible for the most money at a time when luckily for him wrestling was the biggest it's ever going to be? Punk flamed out because the work environment sucked shit and was loaded with c***s, and had been wrestling from about 1999 til he f***ed off without much of a break because he was f***ing great at it. The other left for the same reason 99.9 of wrestlers get mad and then let himself make the mistake of looking like a total dickhead without the safety net of a wrestling show behind him. All of this current Punk bullshit success included, came after the guy surived the Crabwalk debacle. Other than them being dickheads there's nothing here. The scrum was a nightmare but given how it's being seen and discussed outside of this forum (ie barely) i'm placing a bet on this entire thing being looked at as largely a success with a weird and funny ending. Is anything AEW related being discussed to any great extent beyond places like this forum? Unless he shows up somewhere else to wrestle, I think it will hurt his legacy quite a bit in the eyes of the only people who really care about those things (i.e us).
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 6, 2022 15:02:27 GMT -5
Pepsi Ice Cream Z-Pak Crabwalk Muffins Waffle House?
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Post by bluebeach25 on Dec 6, 2022 15:11:17 GMT -5
That's basically nothing that i wouldn't have expected knowing Storys about Cm Punk. He always had problems in any Company. There were even negative stories about him in his ROH Days so what did people thought? That he would work a long time for AEW without bringing any Drama behind the scenes? I knew from the start that this could end very quick if Punk gets mad at something. Honestly i don't think this stuff should only be remembered, he always was an Entertaining figure and obviously a huge Draw for AEW. The Promos with MJF were priceless. The performer Cm Punk will always be one of the best, the person itself will always be in a bad light because of the stories we always hear.
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