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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 28, 2022 9:46:04 GMT -5
To add to the thread, Vince McMahon being the Higher Power had plotholes galore, even throwing away 6 months worth of storylines. However, the kayfabe mark in me appreciated the lengths he would go through to mess with Austin. My headcannon is that Vince getting his leg broken, the hospital attack the next week, the corvette incident and the "Bang 3:16" incident drove him so far off the deep end that his sanity was ripped to shreds leading him to come up with the most bizzare of plans to inact his revenge against Steve Austin. A plan that involved him waiting to see if Austin won the title, keeping the title on him until the right moment to take it off him and joining forces with the man who broke his leg. All because he had actually proper lost his mind. But what about Big Bossman(his hired gun) being hanged by Undertaker's minions at Wrestlemania XV? Now all of a sudden they're buddies? |
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Post by 67 more on Dec 28, 2022 9:51:09 GMT -5
My headcannon is that Vince getting his leg broken, the hospital attack the next week, the corvette incident and the "Bang 3:16" incident drove him so far off the deep end that his sanity was ripped to shreds leading him to come up with the most bizzare of plans to inact his revenge against Steve Austin. A plan that involved him waiting to see if Austin won the title, keeping the title on him until the right moment to take it off him and joining forces with the man who broke his leg. All because he had actually proper lost his mind. But what about Big Bossman(his hired gun) being hanged by Undertaker's minions at Wrestlemania XV? Now all of a sudden they're buddies? Bossman found out through the hanging he loved autoerotic asphyxiation, so there was no hard feelings. |
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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 28, 2022 10:34:34 GMT -5
But what about Big Bossman(his hired gun) being hanged by Undertaker's minions at Wrestlemania XV? Now all of a sudden they're buddies? Bossman found out through the hanging he loved autoerotic asphyxiation, so there was no hard feelings. I was referring to Vince putting one of his Corporate lackeys in life danger. Besides Taker and Vince, who else was in on it to fool Austin? |
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Post by Andee9001 on Dec 28, 2022 13:27:22 GMT -5
My headcannon is that Vince getting his leg broken, the hospital attack the next week, the corvette incident and the "Bang 3:16" incident drove him so far off the deep end that his sanity was ripped to shreds leading him to come up with the most bizzare of plans to inact his revenge against Steve Austin. A plan that involved him waiting to see if Austin won the title, keeping the title on him until the right moment to take it off him and joining forces with the man who broke his leg. All because he had actually proper lost his mind. But what about Big Bossman(his hired gun) being hanged by Undertaker's minions at Wrestlemania XV? Now all of a sudden they're buddies? Bossman went on to kill and feed Al Snows dog to him and tormented Big Show over his dad passing away. He probably appreciated his evilness. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 28, 2022 20:08:08 GMT -5
I have seen some question why Austin waited to confront Vince after seeing the face of the Higher Power, as well as how Linda and Stephanie were able to retaliate against Vince so quickly after the Higher Power reveal. Honestly, I don't recall if it was explicitly stated, but I just kind of assume Austin told Linda and that's why she acted so quickly and why Austin didn't blow the secret, as he knew Vince was going to get it where it hurts.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 28, 2022 20:55:11 GMT -5
Mae Young was never pregnant. Her and Mark were kinky. He didn't want to use his actual hand during their activities so he got a prosthetic that would get the job done. Somehow the hand got stuck up there. Since Mae was at an advanced age, she was somewhat senile and was convinced she was pregnant after feeling a bit off. That's why she "gave birth" to a prosthetic hand, and Mark gave a sheepish grin in the delivery room.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 3, 2023 14:01:38 GMT -5
Demolition forgiving Mr. Fuji in 1990...
Ax was the brains of the team, and with him having less influence, Smash and Crush took Fuji in again quick.
Yes, Survivor Series...but you can use Ax's DGAF appearance there as him no longer caring about Demolition since they brought back Fuji.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jan 3, 2023 14:17:38 GMT -5
But what about Big Bossman(his hired gun) being hanged by Undertaker's minions at Wrestlemania XV? Now all of a sudden they're buddies? Bossman found out through the hanging he loved autoerotic asphyxiation, so there was no hard feelings.But you just said he loved it… |
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Post by 67 more on Jan 3, 2023 14:42:19 GMT -5
Bossman found out through the hanging he loved autoerotic asphyxiation, so there was no hard feelings.But you just said he loved it… I didn't say it cured his erectile dysfunction |
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jan 3, 2023 14:45:40 GMT -5
I'd love someone to explain the Matt Hardy/Kane/Lita/Snitsky/Edge debacle. Let's try, and everything I post is in kayfabe. Matt and Lita didn't press charges over the coerced assault due to the issues in victims obtaining justice (and that's about how in-depth I want to go in to that aspect of the storyline). Lita had to marry Kane due to the Death Us Do Part match and Matt had to leave due to injury. Kane and Lita both shared loss due to the loss of the baby and both blamed Snitsky for it. This started to show a more human side of Kane and him and Lita bonded over the shared loss, with Kane treating Lita better as a result. Lita also went along with it so revenge could be exacted over Snitsky. Edge, concerned for his friends Matt and Lita, stayed in contact with Lita during this. This led to something more and Lita realised despite her best efforts, she was unable to forgive Kane for the previous abuse and sided with Edge solely. During the whole Kane relationship, Lita still loved Matt and vice versa, so Matt felt betrayed when he found about Edge and posted about it on Myspace (I assume it was Myspace). WWE fired Matt on a temporary basis while things cooled over. The fans booed Lita and Edge not out of sympathy for Kane, but for poor Matt Hardy at home. Kane was just a vessel for the fans, and unfortunately 2005 still wasn't great in terms of women's autonomy. Kane also wasn't aware of the Matt Hardy post as he wasn't online and no one had the balls to go up to him and tell him the news, so Kane was completely oblivious until Lita turned on him at Raw. WWE, realising they punished the wrong man firing Matt plus Vince seeing dollar signs in the two going at it (increased by Matt invading Raw), brought him back sooner than planned knowing full well he would go after Edge. Matt talked about "on TV Lita was with Kane but in real life, she was still with me". Matt clumsily tried to say that Lita chose to stop mentioning Matt on TV to protect him from Kane, as Lita never fully trusted Kane not to find Matt and assault Matt some more. Why did Kane just leave everyone be at this point? Kane has a history of inconsistent behaviour and this was just another example. He also figured it was best for him to stay out of this mess and quit while he's ahead as still no-one was pressing charges against him. I think that's the best I'm getting out of this rubbish, but let me know if there's still a plothole that needs explaining I would read a book with this plot. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 3, 2023 16:13:17 GMT -5
Mae Young was never pregnant. Her and Mark were kinky. He didn't want to use his actual hand during their activities so he got a prosthetic that would get the job done. Somehow the hand got stuck up there. Since Mae was at an advanced age, she was somewhat senile and was convinced she was pregnant after feeling a bit off. That's why she "gave birth" to a prosthetic hand, and Mark gave a sheepish grin in the delivery room. I have heard there was some bit where they got freaky with a mannequin and that's how the hand got up there, but you couldn't pay me to go back and watch that |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 3, 2023 16:19:12 GMT -5
I have seen some question why Austin waited to confront Vince after seeing the face of the Higher Power, as well as how Linda and Stephanie were able to retaliate against Vince so quickly after the Higher Power reveal. Honestly, I don't recall if it was explicitly stated, but I just kind of assume Austin told Linda and that's why she acted so quickly and why Austin didn't blow the secret, as he knew Vince was going to get it where it hurts. Austin saw the HP the week *before* the reveal. He told Linda/Steph like, the next day and they quietly planned to make their move, knowing Vince was going to do the reveal on the 6/7 Raw. |
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Post by y4j1981 on Jan 3, 2023 17:19:50 GMT -5
Mae Young was never pregnant. Her and Mark were kinky. He didn't want to use his actual hand during their activities so he got a prosthetic that would get the job done. Somehow the hand got stuck up there. Since Mae was at an advanced age, she was somewhat senile and was convinced she was pregnant after feeling a bit off. That's why she "gave birth" to a prosthetic hand, and Mark gave a sheepish grin in the delivery room. I get your joke but....."adult hand" made an appearance with Mae & Mark years later. So she had to give birth to it..him..or it. How else would "hand" age? youtu.be/rn2uZ9eKDio |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 3, 2023 17:33:48 GMT -5
I have seen some question why Austin waited to confront Vince after seeing the face of the Higher Power, as well as how Linda and Stephanie were able to retaliate against Vince so quickly after the Higher Power reveal. Honestly, I don't recall if it was explicitly stated, but I just kind of assume Austin told Linda and that's why she acted so quickly and why Austin didn't blow the secret, as he knew Vince was going to get it where it hurts. Austin saw the HP the week *before* the reveal. He told Linda/Steph like, the next day and they quietly planned to make their move, knowing Vince was going to do the reveal on the 6/7 Raw. Gotcha, yeah, I was not entirely sure when that happened, but knew it had happened prior to the "IT WAS ME, AUSTIN, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, AUSTIN!" reveal, which does make me wonder why Vince directed the reveal at Austin himself. Like, did he not know Austin knew already, or was he taunting him? |
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Post by y4j1981 on Jan 3, 2023 18:05:22 GMT -5
Austin saw the HP the week *before* the reveal. He told Linda/Steph like, the next day and they quietly planned to make their move, knowing Vince was going to do the reveal on the 6/7 Raw. Gotcha, yeah, I was not entirely sure when that happened, but knew it had happened prior to the "IT WAS ME, AUSTIN, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, AUSTIN!" reveal, which does make me wonder why Vince directed the reveal at Austin himself. Like, did he not know Austin knew already, or was he taunting him? I think it was more taunting. Like Vince pretty much thought he had gotten over on everyone and was rubbing it in Austin's face how far he had gotten and what he got away with. Made no sense that he would do it IRL, but more like when a Bond Villain reveals his evil plans then leaves Bond alone before he is actually dead. He got to cocky for his own good. |
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Post by fw91 on Jan 3, 2023 18:30:13 GMT -5
Mae Young was never pregnant. Her and Mark were kinky. He didn't want to use his actual hand during their activities so he got a prosthetic that would get the job done. Somehow the hand got stuck up there. Since Mae was at an advanced age, she was somewhat senile and was convinced she was pregnant after feeling a bit off. That's why she "gave birth" to a prosthetic hand, and Mark gave a sheepish grin in the delivery room. I get your joke but....."adult hand" made an appearance with Mae & Mark years later. So she had to give birth to it..him..or it. How else would "hand" age? youtu.be/rn2uZ9eKDioMae was senile and some college geek wanted to be put on tv. So he showed up to RAW backstage in a hand costume and Mae still thinking the whole thing actually happened was thrilled to see him. |
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Post by y4j1981 on Jan 3, 2023 18:47:02 GMT -5
I get your joke but....."adult hand" made an appearance with Mae & Mark years later. So she had to give birth to it..him..or it. How else would "hand" age? youtu.be/rn2uZ9eKDioMae was senile and some college geek wanted to be put on tv. So he showed up to RAW backstage in a hand costume and Mae still thinking the whole thing actually happened was thrilled to see him. .......alright. that's Canon now |
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 4, 2023 15:50:05 GMT -5
"vince russo wrote it" covers a lot of plot holes
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Post by sungod2020 on Jan 4, 2023 19:38:07 GMT -5
Here's one that is very similar to the one big clusterf*** that is the Kane/Lita/Snitsky/Edge/Matt Hardy debacle and that was the Goldust/Terri Runnells/Val Venis/D'lo Brown angle.
Goldust finally finds God and is a born-again Christian(despite telling others their going to hell). Terri returns and dumps him to date Val Venis and she's considered a jezebel for doing so, yet a year earlier Goldust did the same to her.
For months Goldust(now going by Dustin Runnells) teases for weeks that "he" is coming back, implying Jesus, only it for him to return to his Goldust persona despite denouncing the gimmick and burning his attire. Val is now scared of him even though for weeks on out, he was tormenting him. Goldust then wins the feud at Judgment Day and then goes on to feud with Jeff Jarrett.
Meanwhile Terri Runnels announces that she's pregnant(implying Val's the father), yet Val clears it up and says it's not his baby, somehow making him a face for not wanting to take paternal responsibility for what seems to be his seed. The next week he then clears the air saying he had a vasectomy, meaning it wasn't really his child afterwards, so we were right to cheer for him(I think, IDK).
Since it's been established that Val is not the father, Terri goes back to Goldust saying it's his baby even though they haven't had sex for at least a year. So now Terri is still pregnant, yet we don't know who the father is, but she soldiers on as normal, even forming an Alliance with Jacqueline calling themselves Pretty Mean Sisters(or PMS for short). Their agenda is they hate men, so why exactly are they working for a male-dominated company that treats women as sex objects?
Terri then gets involved in D'lo Brown's match for some reason and trips on the stairs. She then cries about the safety of her unborn child and blames D'lo for it(despite the fact that she interfered in his match). Feeling bad for what appears to be her miscarriage, he does humiliating tasks for her such as buying her tampons and fighting his best friend Mark Henry.
Then in a backstage segment, Mark Henry comforts D'lo saying that it wasn't his fault and the ring isn't a place for a pregnant woman only for the doctor to not know what he's talking about DESPITE BEING RIGHT THERE WHEN TERRI IS SCREAMING IN PAIN ABOUT HER UNBORN FETUS and that she was never pregnant(so I guess we are suppose to forget about Dakota).
The angle then quietly gets dropped since Terri and D'lo can't wrestle each other.
Someone please fill in the plotholes for that big mess.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 5, 2023 3:18:37 GMT -5
I get your joke but....."adult hand" made an appearance with Mae & Mark years later. So she had to give birth to it..him..or it. How else would "hand" age? youtu.be/rn2uZ9eKDioMae was senile and some college geek wanted to be put on tv. So he showed up to RAW backstage in a hand costume and Mae still thinking the whole thing actually happened was thrilled to see him. Cannot believe you made this work |
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